bluechipper Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Looking on the IHSAA website at some wrestling history, and the Super 3 of Griffith wrestled 60+ matches that season en route to individual state championships. There was an asterisk placed next to their records to note that this did not include their matches at Team State the next weekend. With the results reading that they all won their matches, Alex Tsirtsis wrestled 65 matches with no losses with Hernandez and Escobedo wrestling 64 with no losses. Insane. I can't imagine that today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoottowin Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 There are kids, with today's scheduling, who enter Semi-States with 50+ matches, not including Team State. 52 + 4 @ SS + 4 @ State + 4 or 5 at Team State = 65 ...# of matches still possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Spires Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 A Harrison(WL) kid could potentially have this opportunity if they made team state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsawwrestling Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 You would have to enter sectionals with 45 matches to get to 60. 4 sectional, 3 regional, 4 semi-state, and 4 state = 15 matches. Not to many teams reached that many matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Iirc th e 03' finals Angel vs Jaggers was 58-0 vs 56-0..I think that's a record for most combined wins with no losses going into the finals Coach Peck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Looking on the IHSAA website at some wrestling history, and the Super 3 of Griffith wrestled 60+ matches that season en route to individual state championships. There was an asterisk placed next to their records to note that this did not include their matches at Team State the next weekend. With the results reading that they all won their matches, Alex Tsirtsis wrestled 65 matches with no losses with Hernandez and Escobedo wrestling 64 with no losses. Insane. I can't imagine that today. During the regular season they only wrestled super duals, no single dual meets. Thus they had many more matches. Not long after those guys graduated the IHSAA made a rule that you MUST use 4 of your schedule points for single duals. Even with our current rules, if you could find a two-day super dual with 8-10 matches every weekend you could get 70+ matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpt189 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 A Harrison(WL) kid could potentially have this opportunity if they made team state. But if they made team state, they'd have to drop a tourney, so matches would probably stay the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takemtothemat Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 While we are talking about the number of matches! Is it best to wrestle 50 plus or cut it down 15 or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaveitonthemat Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I know New Castle used to wrestle a ton more matches in a season that most schools. Several of their kids would have around 45 matches going into the tournament. I also remember Tipton kids having 40 something matches going into sectionals a few years back. That is a lot of matches! I don't remember entering sectionals with more than 35 matches. FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluechipper Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 While we are talking about the number of matches! Is it best to wrestle 50 plus or cut it down 15 or so? I mean, I don't know. I was always kind of mixed on this topic. I could see where wrestling so much so often would make kids not like the sport, but I feel like wrestling so many matches also can make kids get a lot better. Typically, you wrestle the most matches in the "offseason," but in season it can give you waves of momentum going into the postseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaveitonthemat Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I am a big fan of the Al Smith. I know it is a long and grueling tournament (especially if you get thrown in wrestle backs), but I feel that good kids really benefit from this type of competition. It is a good measuring stick to gauge where you are and an excellent opportunity to see kids that you might not otherwise see. It exposes weaknesses early enough in the season that athletes and coaches have time to make adjustments whereas if you just had dual meets and did not see that competition, you might not rise to the highest level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluechipper Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 I know a lot of athletes don't enjoy many weigh-ins as it begins to take a toll on the body. One after another would become stressful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takemtothemat Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I'm mixed as well. Like leaveitonthemat stated you get more match time and discover some flaws. However, wear and tear has been to much for some in the past. Not sure there is a correct answer here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Coaches have many different philosophies on this. There are so many different factors that go into a schedule that there is no cookie cutter approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Scholar Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Im not naming names, but there was some criticism of in another thread about schools that wrestled just super 6s and came into semi-state with a whole bunch of wins. Some people like and some people don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takemtothemat Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Coaches have many different philosophies on this. There are so many different factors that go into a schedule that there is no cookie cutter approach. When I first took over coaching I added matches and thought it was best. Then they started requiring dual meets and I felt it helped some of my kids a little less wear and tear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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