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When you think about what the verb "wrestle" actually means, it makes sense that the highest rewards go to a) taking an opponent from the feet to the mat and b) physically controlling the opponent on top to the point that shoulders are exposed. And let's not forget, while a 2 point near fall still has the top wrestler in deficit, the top wrestler can continue scoring from that position. When you score a take down, you are done scoring take downs until you concede points to your opponent. That would seem to more than balance out the score advantage of a take down vs the lowest scoring near fall.
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Does Rini and or Logan Frazier have the body to go up or down in weight? Seems something is in the plans here. -
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Can’t believe there’s been no chatter about this. Hockaday going for 3rd in U20, Cressell had a great run, Lemley for 5th, Barkett for 5th. u17 Greco Xavier Smith and Hartleroad placed Quite a few u15 and futures placers u17 are coming in strong with Bell and Shephard after texhing 2 seed Youngblut in quarters
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At the same time you have a chance to get 4 near fall which will encourage a wrestler that may be better on top to be more aggressive. Not to mentioned with only 2 point reversal it becomes more of a high reward low risk situation. For example before if you're up 2-0 and aggressive on top and give up a reversal it's tied. Now with a takedown you're up 3-0 and can work for 4 points if you get reversed you're still up 3-2. The wrestlers that are going to work for takedowns are going to whether uts 2 or 3 points. I think this will encourage wrestlers to get better on there feet and on top. I agree you may see less wrestlers choose bottom, but I also think you might see an increase in choosing top.
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I feel it's going to lead to what I call a freestyle mindset in folkstyle. Say Wrestler A is great on his/her feet but not as good on the mat. Wrestler A gets a takedown but it's not likely leading to near fall. Wrestler A is going to cut right away and smartly so. What used to be a 4-2 lead is now 6-2. Guessing choice is going to be more neutral than top & bottom. I felt mat wrestling was a great equalizer for those not as good on their feet. In that prior example, if the other wrestler down 4-2 gets choice & gets a reversal, we are tied. Instead down 2. Just feel it will lead to less mat wrestling & more neutral to avoid mat wrestling. If they make options for period 2 top, bottom or defer and period 3 just top & bottom, then I'd be ok with it.
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Article: THREEEEE Big Rule Changes Coming to High School Wrestling
Y2CJ41 replied to Y2CJ41's topic in High School Wrestling
Stalling is a judgement call and hard to have interpreted the same across the state or even country. NCAA referees work diligently to keep things as uniform as possible and we still have great variations in the way some call stalling. As much as you want to clamor about rules for stalling they will always leave a lot of room for interpretation from all refs. -
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Jcjcjc replied to Y2CJ41's topic in High School Wrestling
Rules are rules and whatever they are we’ll figure em out. The only thing that bugs me, is that a turn can be less than a takedown (2 v 3), and that doesn’t really make sense in any style of wrestling, as near falls are semantically the second best thing in a wrestling match that has falls. -
TrueRegionFan reacted to a post in a topic: Article: THREEEEE Big Rule Changes Coming to High School Wrestling
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The reversal thing is something I struggled with initially, but in the end am fine with. Why do you think a reversal and take down should be worth the same amount? Just curious on another's perspective. This scoring situation didn't seem to cause any more stalling at the college level...in fact, it seemed to open things up. Bottom wrestlers eager to get out so they can get to closing the gap, top wrestlers eager to take chances because a) there is a bigger reward to trying to expose the opponent's back and b) if it doesn't work out, they're still up 2 points and not just 1.
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I feel bad for the new referee's time-out signal...picked the wrong year to make it's debut. Lost in the shuffle.
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Transfers/potential freshman moves??
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Is there any truth to the rumor that Horns bought an investment property in FW? - Last week
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Personally, I am a fan of the changes. I think it will help the officials on the edge of the mat, and I liked seeing the 3 pt take down this year at the ncaa's. Time will tell, but on the surface, it looks to be a good move.
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Stew replied to Stew's topic in High School Wrestling
Certainly Lefever although not division 1 and Miracle for women and Sarah Hildebrandt -
Article: THREEEEE Big Rule Changes Coming to High School Wrestling
Y2CJ41 replied to Y2CJ41's topic in High School Wrestling
How many takedown records were done in this manner? If you are getting takedown records by teching kids in this manner it just means you wrestled a super weak schedule and your record doesn't mean anything.