PreparetoWin

While I tend to agree with you, your scenario does not fit all wrestlers.
 
Problems arise when a 14, 15, 16, or 17 year old hits a growth spurt and is now cutting down from 185/190/195 to get to 170.
 
I would rather coach a kid who eats healthy and wrestles near his natural weight and maintains a love of the sport (and good attitude/grades/etc.) -- yet loses a match or two because of being undersized -- than a kid who skips meals, hates practice, always tired and grouchy, but wins every match.

This is my perspective and I believe this wholeheartedly.  A good diet at the beginning or even prior to season starting will put a wrestler in the weight class that he will perform best in.  There is a HUGE difference between cutting weight and losing weight.  This is something many people inside and outside the sport dont seem to understand. (I didnt when I was coming up). If a wrestlers off season weight is 180 and has 15% body fat, should he be on a healthy low fat diet and working his tail off, he will naturally drop enough weight in a healthy way to most likely reach 170 in just a few weeks. Every wrestler will be different in their body make up, but generally a healthy diet and hard work will get you to the correct weight class and be an extremely healthy individual.  Where myself and others run into the biggest problem is the "yo-yo" effect.  180 on Monday, cut to 170 by Friday, up to 175 by Saturday night, back to 180 for Monday. Rinse and Repeat.  Your body has no fuel, no water, spent its energy and basically shut its own metabolism down. Do all our kids listen...haha you know better than that.  Do some get it, yup...and those typically are the kids who dont tire in the 3rd, can wrestle 5 matches hard in one day and do not hate practice near as much as the others. 

This is my perspective and I believe this wholeheartedly.  A good diet at the beginning or even prior to season starting will put a wrestler in the weight class that he will perform best in.  There is a HUGE difference between cutting weight and losing weight.  This is something many people inside and outside the sport dont seem to understand. (I didnt when I was coming up). If a wrestlers off season weight is 180 and has 15% body fat, should he be on a healthy low fat diet and working his tail off, he will naturally drop enough weight in a healthy way to most likely reach 170 in just a few weeks. Every wrestler will be different in their body make up, but generally a healthy diet and hard work will get you to the correct weight class and be an extremely healthy individual.  Where myself and others run into the biggest problem is the "yo-yo" effect.  180 on Monday, cut to 170 by Friday, up to 175 by Saturday night, back to 180 for Monday. Rinse and Repeat.  Your body has no fuel, no water, spent its energy and basically shut its own metabolism down. Do all our kids listen...haha you know better than that.  Do some get it, yup...and those typically are the kids who dont tire in the 3rd, can wrestle 5 matches hard in one day and do not hate practice near as much as the others. 

Mean Joe Joe Stewart!!! Hahaha...I'll have to tell him his name was mentioned on here...he'll get a kick out of that.

I have coached kids who were not as talented and would get beat 9 out of 10 times by a certain wrestler and once down 13-0 threw a head lock and caught him.  Even as a coach you cheer, chuckle, wipe the sweat from your brow and thank goodness luck was on your side that day.  Then you hope you dont wrestle that kid again because you probably wont get lucky like that again.  If that is a scrub mentality I guess I am a scrub...lol So I think they were wanting to know with the original question was if both the wrestlers looked equal prior to getting pinned or was one wrestler being dominate before the pin.  Being a realist is a far cry from a scrub mentality. Sorry to interrupt, dont know much about either wrestler, just wanted to add my 2 cents. 

I have coached kids who were not as talented and would get beat 9 out of 10 times by a certain wrestler and once down 13-0 threw a head lock and caught him.  Even as a coach you cheer, chuckle, wipe the sweat from your brow and thank goodness luck was on your side that day.  Then you hope you dont wrestle that kid again because you probably wont get lucky like that again.  If that is a scrub mentality I guess I am a scrub...lol So I think they were wanting to know with the original question was if both the wrestlers looked equal prior to getting pinned or was one wrestler being dominate before the pin.  Being a realist is a far cry from a scrub mentality. Sorry to interrupt, dont know much about either wrestler, just wanted to add my 2 cents. 

I have coached kids who were not as talented and would get beat 9 out of 10 times by a certain wrestler and once down 13-0 threw a head lock and caught him.  Even as a coach you cheer, chuckle, wipe the sweat from your brow and thank goodness luck was on your side that day.  Then you hope you dont wrestle that kid again because you probably wont get lucky like that again.  If that is a scrub mentality I guess I am a scrub...lol So I think they were wanting to know with the original question was if both the wrestlers looked equal prior to getting pinned or was one wrestler being dominate before the pin.  Being a realist is a far cry from a scrub mentality. Sorry to interrupt, dont know much about either wrestler, just wanted to add my 2 cents. 

I have coached kids who were not as talented and would get beat 9 out of 10 times by a certain wrestler and once down 13-0 threw a head lock and caught him.  Even as a coach you cheer, chuckle, wipe the sweat from your brow and thank goodness luck was on your side that day.  Then you hope you dont wrestle that kid again because you probably wont get lucky like that again.  If that is a scrub mentality I guess I am a scrub...lol So I think they were wanting to know with the original question was if both the wrestlers looked equal prior to getting pinned or was one wrestler being dominate before the pin.  Being a realist is a far cry from a scrub mentality. Sorry to interrupt, dont know much about either wrestler, just wanted to add my 2 cents. 

I have coached kids who were not as talented and would get beat 9 out of 10 times by a certain wrestler and once down 13-0 threw a head lock and caught him.  Even as a coach you cheer, chuckle, wipe the sweat from your brow and thank goodness luck was on your side that day.  Then you hope you dont wrestle that kid again because you probably wont get lucky like that again.  If that is a scrub mentality I guess I am a scrub...lol So I think they were wanting to know with the original question was if both the wrestlers looked equal prior to getting pinned or was one wrestler being dominate before the pin.  Being a realist is a far cry from a scrub mentality. Sorry to interrupt, dont know much about either wrestler, just wanted to add my 2 cents. 

I have coached kids who were not as talented and would get beat 9 out of 10 times by a certain wrestler and once down 13-0 threw a head lock and caught him.  Even as a coach you cheer, chuckle, wipe the sweat from your brow and thank goodness luck was on your side that day.  Then you hope you dont wrestle that kid again because you probably wont get lucky like that again.  If that is a scrub mentality I guess I am a scrub...lol So I think they were wanting to know with the original question was if both the wrestlers looked equal prior to getting pinned or was one wrestler being dominate before the pin.  Being a realist is a far cry from a scrub mentality. Sorry to interrupt, dont know much about either wrestler, just wanted to add my 2 cents. 

I have coached kids who were not as talented and would get beat 9 out of 10 times by a certain wrestler and once down 13-0 threw a head lock and caught him.  Even as a coach you cheer, chuckle, wipe the sweat from your brow and thank goodness luck was on your side that day.  Then you hope you dont wrestle that kid again because you probably wont get lucky like that again.  If that is a scrub mentality I guess I am a scrub...lol So I think they were wanting to know with the original question was if both the wrestlers looked equal prior to getting pinned or was one wrestler being dominate before the pin.  Being a realist is a far cry from a scrub mentality. Sorry to interrupt, dont know much about either wrestler, just wanted to add my 2 cents. 

It's not TrackWrestling, it's the person inputting the results. Could easily be the table workers aren't circling the winners.

Reaching under the arms and touching as low as both sides of the headgear gets you hit with a point for an illegal Full Nelson even though we all know their is really no risk of injury from that position. There are a myriad of similar example of minuscule/dumb reasons kids possibly could lose points in a match, but they are still rules. They maybe miniscule/dumb but it's a rule and those participating in the sport should know it and attempt to follow it. You can't really argue your way out of the call by saying it's dumb, because it a standing rule. Just the same as you can't really argue yourself out of a speeding ticket by saying it's dumb you are getting one when everyone else was speeding. The video recording rule (as far as wrestlers, parents, or coaches taping other wrestlers matches to gain an advantage) is a standing IHSAA rule and as such should be known by those participating and followed. Even if it maybe dumb to some people. Only alternative is to get the IHSAAS to change it.

Weigh ins were 7:30, we were there by 7:40. (Madison)

I wanted to say the same thing but I had to delete my post...haha thanks for saying it

"Cheated"??? How about a little discipline like the other 100+ kids had that made weight!

I'm through 45 and, depending on Bears/Saints, done for today. I might get some work in tonight if game a blowout.

A victory so nice, you decided to say it twice??

I think IU has to look at the early success of Ersland at Purdue and see the possibilities. The Hoosiers have some good wrestlers, sad to see Molloy and a few others not on the roster anymore though.

Seems like an abundance of Madison kids?

With the exception of 220, all of them were SS qualifiers last year and 2 of them were ticket rounders.

I beg to differ....Have you seen his plate at the buffet? Full!! His glass at Boneyards?? Full (for a second) 

A persons "warning points" are only viewable to them.  Just think of it like the message board version of doctor-patient confidentiality.

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