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For me the answer is simple.  Unless you are old like me, people don't get the context of Lance Ellis' four year run.  Before Lance showed up, there had not been anyone in decades who pretty much destroyed people like he did...except for maybe David Palmer from Muncie...  Anyway, also note we didnt have the interwebs to see all the four timers from other states.  It was a much smaller world then where we would have probably never heard of the elite kids from other states.  Four timers were almost mythological.  Consequently, his dominance was so much fun to watch.

Lance Ellis with his lateral/whip over (and cradles) is the correct answer in my book. If anyone has ever mastered their timing better on their throws, I haven’t seen it. 
 
 
4:22 and 6:08 show his laterals

Don Patton - Head Coach for Delta from 1976-1986
 
Overall Record was 101-13
 
in his first two season as head coach they went 4-5 both years (10 of his 13 losses as a head coach came in his first two seasons)
 
Went on to coach 48 state qualifiers
- 33 of those 48 we state placers
- 13 of those were state champions
 
Also coached 5 Team State titles, 2nd Place finish, and a 4th Place finish

Angel Escobedo has to be in the mix.
2013 World Championships 5th Place NCAA Champ 4 time All-American 2 Time Big 10 Champ 4 Time Indiana HS State Champ

That's not an unfair point, but a World medal is a World medal.  Thats a way big deal and no matter what puts him in the discussion.
 
I'm still going with Escobedo with 1 more Indiana title, 1 more All-American finish, 1 more Big 10 title, an NCAA title, made a US team, and missed a bronze medal by a single point. 

Tsirtsis 

I get this, but I do not think Goldman ever went more than three years without an All-American, and every now and then there was a Hoosier in the finals.  I remember when IU let go of Coach Mallory because he only made six bowl games in 13 years.  The result was Cam Cameron, a few others, and IU didn't see another bowl game for I think twelve years. 
 
What's my point?  I don't know.  It just seems like the athletic department wants to do worse.  I am a huge Escobedo fan, and I really hope this year is when he turns it around.      

Good grief.  A whole page and more with more data than I could have imagined.  Very cool.  Thanks for pointing me there.

David Maldonado and James Leavell met twice under the lights, both winning one. That was a pretty good rivalry. 

Coach Loggan was one the best men I have ever met- a tremendous teacher, administrator and, more importantly, a role model of a husband, father, and friend.  He truly was one of the good guys.  His passion was obviously football, but he loved wrestling and was easily our biggest administrative supporter.     
 
Tonight literally hundreds of high school football stadiums across Indiana turned on their lights at 7:00 PM (game time) in his memory.  Below are just a few.
 
He will be truly missed.
 
 

Any school staff/coaches who intimidate should be named and shamed.

As I watched the broadcast tonight these thoughts popped into my head...
 
1.  How hard it is to get that first state champ.  I think four or five schools wrestled for their first state champion tonight...  pretty sure they all came up short.   
 
2.  How hard it is to replace a legendary coach and stay competitive- What Shaefer and Schoettle have done is amazing.
 
3.  It was awesome to see a Belmont wrestler back in the finals.
 
4.  I will never get used to the absence of certain schools that were once icons in Indianapolis and state level wrestling.  I hope someone can save them before they fade away for good. 
 
6.  I hope to see IPS schools return one day too.    
 
7.  Hearing Kevin Whitehead say "Maldanado!"  Who didn't love that?  It was kind of like time travel. 
 
Im sure there are more.  

In a suite with lots of adult beverages and good friends.

In the last 10 years at Jeffersonville High School, we've had two D1, four D2 (two will be D1), 9 NAIA, one D3, and 6 JUCO. Also the team manager for Ohio State is a Jeff Wrestling alum and we will probably have another D2 signing here in a few weeks
 
2009 – Caleb Browner – Campbellsville NAIA
2010 – Ryan Dewitt – Waldorf College NAIA
2011 – Alonzo Shepherd – Indiana University D1 (four year starter)
2012 – Brent Browner – Indiana Tech NAIA
2012 – Elijah Curtley – Indiana Tech NAIA
2013 – Jasi Coureur – West Virginia Tech University NAIA
2013 – Nick Stewart – Lindenwood Belleville University – Illinois NAIA
2014 – Gavan Jolley-Little – Indiana University D1
2014 – Tavion Lucas – Marian Military Institute JUCO
2015 – Jasi Couereur – St. Catherine NAIA
2016 – Darian Newbolt – Manchester JUCO
2017 – Josh McCorkle – Bellarmine University D2 (soon to be D1)
2017 – Vaughn Lloyd – Manchester D3
2017 – Josh Cooper – Ancilla JUCO
2017 – Shawn Williams – Ancilla JUCO
2017 – Carson Somerville – Ohio State University (team manager)
2018 – Luke Smith – Indiana Tech NAIA
2018 – Josh Craig – Bellarmine University D2 (soon to be D1)
2018 – Josiah Freeman – University of Indianapolis D2
2018 – Carlos Molina – Lassen Junior College JUCO
2018 – Jacob Laughlin – Lassen Junior College JUCO
2019 – Isaiah Fultcher – Tiffin College D2
2019 – Carlos Santos, Indiana Tech NAIA
 

Wheeler has 
Jose diaz jr  class of 2018- Franklin & Marshall D1
Isaiah Mohmed class 2019 - Wisconsin whitewater D3
Trey buhler class 2018- university of Indianapolis D2
Clay Turpin class of 2016- Indiana tech university NAIA
Giovanni Diaz class of 2020- Franklin and Marshall D1
 
Just remember wheeler has about 530 students enrolled and we only had a wrestling program for the last 7 years

Congrats, Coach.  Three at West Point at one time is awesome.  That must have been a great group of kids to work with every day.

I would say portage has had a good run recently. I might be missing a couple 
kasper Macintosh Minnesota 
John Moran Iu 
jake moran IU 
Dj Washington IU 
collin poynter Air Force 
kris rumph wartburg 
brock peele portage 
Cornejo Marian 
hegedus Marian 
gaige Torres indiana tech 
latrell Lewis calumet college 
bam Lawrence grand view 
 
 

This is a very tricky question (thread) to reply to. In my humble opinion I don't know that there is a correct answer to the originally stated question. There are so many factors that go into competing at all collegiate levels. Does it count if a wrestler started DI and then transferred or stepped away from the sport after a year or two? One could respectfully debate the fact that some wrestlers take non-traditional paths into their college experiences now days. Additionally, many wrestlers arrive at their college choice only to find that it wasn't what they expected; or the coach who recruited them has now taken a different job; or academics trip them up; or an injury derails their college wrestling experience. There are numerous factors that play out as an 18 year-old embarks on a college wrestling journey. There can be many pitfalls along the way... as is there can be many rewards to be had if a little grit is demonstrated.
 
With athlete retention in mind I believe more wrestlers (and their parents) could do a better job of 1)researching a variety of schools before making a final selection; 2)working on their time management skills in MS and HS to better ensure "life success" in college; and 3)realizing that wrestling at any collegiate level is very grueling. As they say... "it's a job."  You have to love the sport, be willing to navigate set-backs, and have the ability to keep your eye on the ball.
 
In getting back to the original topic, DI wrestling isn't for everyone. It is absolutely best-practice for an athlete (and his/her parents) to be realistic in what level of collegiate wrestling they want to take part in. A productive and fulfilling wrestling experience can be had at all collegiate levels depending on what the student-athlete is after. As a reminder... it is college... so some level of academic achievement should be placed into the equation. A wrestler at a DIII college studying pre-med is obviously a different situation than a wrestler navigating the rigors of a Big Ten program and schedule. Two different scenarios... two different goals in mind... both are to be applauded.
 
I tip my hat to any young man or young lady that finishes 4+ years of collegiate wrestling at any level and walks away with memories, achievements, and a college degree.

Yorktown Alumni Currently Wrestling in College:
Alara Boyd - McKendree University - IL - DII
Alex Barr - Wabash College - IN - DIII
Josh Stephenson - Manchester University- IN - DIII
Colt Rutter - Minot State University- ND - DII
Brad Laughlin - Army West Point - NY - DI
Christian Hunt - Army West Point - NY - DI
Cael McCormick - Army West Point - NY - DI

You should absolutely go start that topic then...  because "D1 does not mean anything..."  Think I will just walk away from that... yeah.

You should absolutely go start that topic then...  because "D1 does not mean anything..."  Think I will just walk away from that... yeah.

You should absolutely go start that topic then...  because "D1 does not mean anything..."  Think I will just walk away from that... yeah.

They hired Josh Franklin back in July.

I have enjoyed reading this thread….  much to consider.  I have one more wrinkle to add to the discussion:  the impending/inevitable wrestling coach shortage.  How many of us who have spent the last 20 to 30 years in education would make the same career choice today?  I LOVE teaching high school and do not regret for a moment my career path.  That being said, if I were 19 or 20 now I would have to look elsewhere;  I just do not see how most young men (and women) would consider teaching and coaching a viable option anymore.  Enrollment in university education programs supports this.  Finding teachers, let alone keeping them in classrooms for longer than a year or three, is tougher and tougher each year.  Now add to that the ability and drive to run a solid wrestling program year in and year out.  Visit your favorite school's wrestling website and count the number of education majors on the roster.  I just do not see how having more than just a few solid wrestling programs throughout the state will be sustainable and what will look like transferring and recruiting will simply be families seeking competent coaching and an actual program to join.  This, far more than academies, open enrollment, and recruiting, could be the downfall of wrestling and many other high school sports.  

I have enjoyed reading this thread….  much to consider.  I have one more wrinkle to add to the discussion:  the impending/inevitable wrestling coach shortage.  How many of us who have spent the last 20 to 30 years in education would make the same career choice today?  I LOVE teaching high school and do not regret for a moment my career path.  That being said, if I were 19 or 20 now I would have to look elsewhere;  I just do not see how most young men (and women) would consider teaching and coaching a viable option anymore.  Enrollment in university education programs supports this.  Finding teachers, let alone keeping them in classrooms for longer than a year or three, is tougher and tougher each year.  Now add to that the ability and drive to run a solid wrestling program year in and year out.  Visit your favorite school's wrestling website and count the number of education majors on the roster.  I just do not see how having more than just a few solid wrestling programs throughout the state will be sustainable and what will look like transferring and recruiting will simply be families seeking competent coaching and an actual program to join.  This, far more than academies, open enrollment, and recruiting, could be the downfall of wrestling and many other high school sports.