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I was ok at math back in the day. 
You can can calculate stats or percentages to support pretty much whatever you want. 
 
All I know is that 12 teams per division pretty much included everyone who had a shot regardless of which division they were classified in. 
Splitting 3A up really just adds an opportunity for the lower enrollment 3A teams to have a legitimate shot to win a title. Which is fantastic. 
 
Now why would you take away that opportunity from programs that are smaller yet?
One of the initial goals when this was started was to increase excitement and try to grow small school wrestling. 
 
Back to percentages- on any given year we have 12-15% of our HS boy population out for wrestling. I feel that is a high percentage considering not all boys walking the hall are athletes, and you subtract out the basketball players and swimmers. 
 
Team State is something we highlight and use as a tool to recruit kids. I am sure by the excitement and fan support of the other 1A schools, that they also consider it an honor to compete in this event. 
 
I would like to see it stay at 12 teams per division. 
 
 

Not so much the case in 1A.
We were a vote in one year and won the title. I believe Prairie Heights was voted in once or twice. 
Bluffton was left out as a vote in this year and would have been a contender. 
 
The crazy thing with 1A is that 1-2 kids can make a significant impact for that teams competitiveness. Team depth is the over whelming factor that makes 1A different than 2-4A.
 
By dropping the number of teams in 1A, you are potentially going to continue (or increase) to leave out teams that could contend. 
 
Tony Currie
 

Not so much the case in 1A.
We were a vote in one year and won the title. I believe Prairie Heights was voted in once or twice. 
Bluffton was left out as a vote in this year and would have been a contender. 
 
The crazy thing with 1A is that 1-2 kids can make a significant impact for that teams competitiveness. Team depth is the over whelming factor that makes 1A different than 2-4A.
 
By dropping the number of teams in 1A, you are potentially going to continue (or increase) to leave out teams that could contend. 
 
Tony Currie
 

Not so much the case in 1A.
We were a vote in one year and won the title. I believe Prairie Heights was voted in once or twice. 
Bluffton was left out as a vote in this year and would have been a contender. 
 
The crazy thing with 1A is that 1-2 kids can make a significant impact for that teams competitiveness. Team depth is the over whelming factor that makes 1A different than 2-4A.
 
By dropping the number of teams in 1A, you are potentially going to continue (or increase) to leave out teams that could contend. 
 
Tony Currie
 

Not so much the case in 1A.
We were a vote in one year and won the title. I believe Prairie Heights was voted in once or twice. 
Bluffton was left out as a vote in this year and would have been a contender. 
 
The crazy thing with 1A is that 1-2 kids can make a significant impact for that teams competitiveness. Team depth is the over whelming factor that makes 1A different than 2-4A.
 
By dropping the number of teams in 1A, you are potentially going to continue (or increase) to leave out teams that could contend. 
 
Tony Currie
 

One thing our area as done for a while for the beginner level kids is to have "Rival Nights".
This is hosted by the area schools and we do mat side match ups based on age and weight. We include all of Adams County, Wells County, Jay County, New Haven, and Parkway Ohio- along with any other kid that has an USA card.
The HS kids officiate and we push though as many matches as possible just to get them match experience. 
Since we have done this, I feel we have done a better job retaining our beginner kids. Our club numbers have increased significantly over the last 7-8 years. 
Once those kids have a couple years under their belt, we move them to the duals team, individual events, etc. 
 

One thing our area as done for a while for the beginner level kids is to have "Rival Nights".
This is hosted by the area schools and we do mat side match ups based on age and weight. We include all of Adams County, Wells County, Jay County, New Haven, and Parkway Ohio- along with any other kid that has an USA card.
The HS kids officiate and we push though as many matches as possible just to get them match experience. 
Since we have done this, I feel we have done a better job retaining our beginner kids. Our club numbers have increased significantly over the last 7-8 years. 
Once those kids have a couple years under their belt, we move them to the duals team, individual events, etc. 
 

One thing our area as done for a while for the beginner level kids is to have "Rival Nights".
This is hosted by the area schools and we do mat side match ups based on age and weight. We include all of Adams County, Wells County, Jay County, New Haven, and Parkway Ohio- along with any other kid that has an USA card.
The HS kids officiate and we push though as many matches as possible just to get them match experience. 
Since we have done this, I feel we have done a better job retaining our beginner kids. Our club numbers have increased significantly over the last 7-8 years. 
Once those kids have a couple years under their belt, we move them to the duals team, individual events, etc. 
 

One thing our area as done for a while for the beginner level kids is to have "Rival Nights".
This is hosted by the area schools and we do mat side match ups based on age and weight. We include all of Adams County, Wells County, Jay County, New Haven, and Parkway Ohio- along with any other kid that has an USA card.
The HS kids officiate and we push though as many matches as possible just to get them match experience. 
Since we have done this, I feel we have done a better job retaining our beginner kids. Our club numbers have increased significantly over the last 7-8 years. 
Once those kids have a couple years under their belt, we move them to the duals team, individual events, etc. 
 

There are way more non-year rounders than there are that wrestle year round. In order for the sport to thrive those that do not wrestle year round need to be there. If not we will become like gymnastics with about 20 teams.
Today kids are almost being forced to be one sport athletes. They have to choose whether to be average at multiple sports or good at one. Guys like Mason Parris are an anomaly. Only two of our state champions this year were multi-sport kids(Keys and Fowler) this past year and by my rough calculation only four runner-ups played another sport(Fielden, Willhelm, Aiken, and Cartwright). 
Our top end talent is as good as it has ever been. Our next tier guys who are 3-5th placers are likely better than they have been in the past, however past that I think our talent levels are down in terms of quantity more than anything.

Adman Central has had a lay head coach for last 12 years. We hold a free elementary camp each season right before club sign ups. This is always well attended and we pick up some new kids for the club each year. We had 75 elementary club kids this year, our biggest numbers maybe ever. Solid numbers for a 1A school. 
The other big thing is to build relationships and be visible year round. The youth baseball fields is the place to be in Monroe all summer. Visibility and relationships may be a little easier in a small community where the coaches have grown up. 

And for the record, I am not a proponent of classing the individual tournament. I wish they would increase to 24 kids in the state bracket. 
Ticket round winners place top 4 at semi state. 
Ticket round loser wrestle to 5/6. This eliminates the death draw issue and basically assures the top kids qualify. 
Take 6 to state. 
Add 1 round Friday for 4 vs 5 and 3 vs 6. Semi state champs and runner ups have a bye. Somehow random draw in the first round like they do now. 
Keep the rest of the tournament series the same. 
I am a huge proponent of Class Duals. 

I agree and appreciate the fact that 6A schools have multiple sport athletes as well and are successful at that. 
My point is that is is much more common in smaller school settings. 
My varsity line up: 113, 120, 138- cross country. 126, 145, 152, 160, 170, 182, 195, 220- football. 132 was football until this year. 106 first year kid that was literally the only one I could find to make weight in the school. 
So if you can tell me that Brownsburg had 11-12 varsity wrestling starters that played a fall sport, then I will stop trying to post about the differences we face. They get much better year round buy in and that is the advantage. 
I give Snyder props for what he has done. Brownsburg came to our duals for a couple years prior to his head coaching. We actually won the two duals we had with them. Then last year we faced them at the Bellmont main event and took a whooping. He has changed their culture and elevated that program. 

Year round wrestling training is the difference. Period. 
Hard work pays off and those kids that invest in wrestling only are reaping the rewards. 
Others that invest their hard work in other sports have to play catch up. 
Enrollment does not matter. The focus of the kids efforts is what does. 

This was the very point I was trying to make earlier and was jumped on for it. The size of school is irrelevant. The biggest factor is year round wrestling that is being done. I posted earlier that AC has several athletes that work their tails off year round, the difference is that it is in 2-3 sports. The kids that wrestle only are separating themselves. This is a fact and you see it in the rise of the communities that are doing it. 
This is the biggest factor to their success. A small school kid can do it also, but at the expense of the other sports that they are being recruited to play by their peers and the other head coaches.  If we want all our programs to be successful, AC has to share athletes between their sports as there are truly only a set number to choose from in a school of 375 total HS students.

I agree and appreciate the fact that 6A schools have multiple sport athletes as well and are successful at that. 
My point is that is is much more common in smaller school settings. 
My varsity line up: 113, 120, 138- cross country. 126, 145, 152, 160, 170, 182, 195, 220- football. 132 was football until this year. 106 first year kid that was literally the only one I could find to make weight in the school. 
So if you can tell me that Brownsburg had 11-12 varsity wrestling starters that played a fall sport, then I will stop trying to post about the differences we face. They get much better year round buy in and that is the advantage. 
I give Snyder props for what he has done. Brownsburg came to our duals for a couple years prior to his head coaching. We actually won the two duals we had with them. Then last year we faced them at the Bellmont main event and took a whooping. He has changed their culture and elevated that program. 

And for the record, I am not a proponent of classing the individual tournament. I wish they would increase to 24 kids in the state bracket. 
Ticket round winners place top 4 at semi state. 
Ticket round loser wrestle to 5/6. This eliminates the death draw issue and basically assures the top kids qualify. 
Take 6 to state. 
Add 1 round Friday for 4 vs 5 and 3 vs 6. Semi state champs and runner ups have a bye. Somehow random draw in the first round like they do now. 
Keep the rest of the tournament series the same. 
I am a huge proponent of Class Duals. 

I agree and appreciate the fact that 6A schools have multiple sport athletes as well and are successful at that. 
My point is that is is much more common in smaller school settings. 
My varsity line up: 113, 120, 138- cross country. 126, 145, 152, 160, 170, 182, 195, 220- football. 132 was football until this year. 106 first year kid that was literally the only one I could find to make weight in the school. 
So if you can tell me that Brownsburg had 11-12 varsity wrestling starters that played a fall sport, then I will stop trying to post about the differences we face. They get much better year round buy in and that is the advantage. 
I give Snyder props for what he has done. Brownsburg came to our duals for a couple years prior to his head coaching. We actually won the two duals we had with them. Then last year we faced them at the Bellmont main event and took a whooping. He has changed their culture and elevated that program. 

This was the very point I was trying to make earlier and was jumped on for it. The size of school is irrelevant. The biggest factor is year round wrestling that is being done. I posted earlier that AC has several athletes that work their tails off year round, the difference is that it is in 2-3 sports. The kids that wrestle only are separating themselves. This is a fact and you see it in the rise of the communities that are doing it. 
This is the biggest factor to their success. A small school kid can do it also, but at the expense of the other sports that they are being recruited to play by their peers and the other head coaches.  If we want all our programs to be successful, AC has to share athletes between their sports as there are truly only a set number to choose from in a school of 375 total HS students.

And for the record, I am not a proponent of classing the individual tournament. I wish they would increase to 24 kids in the state bracket. 
Ticket round winners place top 4 at semi state. 
Ticket round loser wrestle to 5/6. This eliminates the death draw issue and basically assures the top kids qualify. 
Take 6 to state. 
Add 1 round Friday for 4 vs 5 and 3 vs 6. Semi state champs and runner ups have a bye. Somehow random draw in the first round like they do now. 
Keep the rest of the tournament series the same. 
I am a huge proponent of Class Duals. 

I agree and appreciate the fact that 6A schools have multiple sport athletes as well and are successful at that. 
My point is that is is much more common in smaller school settings. 
My varsity line up: 113, 120, 138- cross country. 126, 145, 152, 160, 170, 182, 195, 220- football. 132 was football until this year. 106 first year kid that was literally the only one I could find to make weight in the school. 
So if you can tell me that Brownsburg had 11-12 varsity wrestling starters that played a fall sport, then I will stop trying to post about the differences we face. They get much better year round buy in and that is the advantage. 
I give Snyder props for what he has done. Brownsburg came to our duals for a couple years prior to his head coaching. We actually won the two duals we had with them. Then last year we faced them at the Bellmont main event and took a whooping. He has changed their culture and elevated that program. 

Year round wrestling training is the difference. Period. 
Hard work pays off and those kids that invest in wrestling only are reaping the rewards. 
Others that invest their hard work in other sports have to play catch up. 
Enrollment does not matter. The focus of the kids efforts is what does. 

I am not trying to make excuses, this is just the reality that small schools face. 
I am curious of the small school kids that are being listed as examples of being successful, how many have quit their other sports to focus on wrestling only and regularly attend academies.  I could be way off here, but I truly believe that is the overwhelming factor that is separating the top from everyone else. 
Like I said size of school does not matter, it is the other opportunities that does. Whether that opportunity is being able to play football and baseball as well or the local wrestling training academy.
I believe I read where Silas Allred had to make the decision to focus on wrestling only. And that kid is a dominant force from a small school. 

This was the very point I was trying to make earlier and was jumped on for it. The size of school is irrelevant. The biggest factor is year round wrestling that is being done. I posted earlier that AC has several athletes that work their tails off year round, the difference is that it is in 2-3 sports. The kids that wrestle only are separating themselves. This is a fact and you see it in the rise of the communities that are doing it. 
This is the biggest factor to their success. A small school kid can do it also, but at the expense of the other sports that they are being recruited to play by their peers and the other head coaches.  If we want all our programs to be successful, AC has to share athletes between their sports as there are truly only a set number to choose from in a school of 375 total HS students.

I don’t think true wrestle backs will happen. 
I think you should take semi state ticket round losers and wrestle them to 5/6. Adds 3 matches per weight to semi state.   
Take six per weight to state. This eliminates the random semi state death draw issues and pretty much guarantees the top kids earn a trip to state. 
Start a little earlier and run 2 rounds Friday at state. 5 vs 4 and 6 vs 3. The semi state champ and runner up gets a bye. 
Everything else stays the same.