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29 minutes ago, IndianaWrestlingGuy said:

If you would have told me Mosconi, Rodgers, and Slivka would go down in the same dual this year, I would have kissed your arse. Wow. What a squad!

The crazy part of it is they all lost to DCC's backups.  (At least according to the lineup on TW)

DCC's starters are:
Derek Gilcher (145 - 1st at Brecksville, Flo #18)
Cameron Amine (152/160 - 1st at Brecksville, Flo #2 at 160)
Kevon Davenport (152/160 - 2nd at Brecksville to Donnell Washington, Flo #7 at 152).

That's some serious depth!

Indianapolis Cathedral vs. Detroit Central Catholic 1/12/19

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32 minutes ago, SWINfan said:

The crazy part of it is they all lost to DCC's backups.  (At least according to the lineup on TW)

DCC's starters are:
Derek Gilcher (145 - 1st at Brecksville, Flo #18)
Cameron Amine (152/160 - 1st at Brecksville, Flo #2 at 160)
Kevon Davenport (152/160 - 2nd at Brecksville to Donnell Washington, Flo #7 at 152).

That's some serious depth!

Indianapolis Cathedral vs. Detroit Central Catholic 1/12/19

That is incorrect. Those are the 3 young men that beat us. 

145: #3 Alex Mosconi loses to #1(D1) and #18 nationally Derek Glicher 7-1 to make the team score 8-9!☘️🤼‍♂️

152: #2 Elliott Rodgers loses to #2(D1) and #7 nationally Kevon Davenport 6-2 to make the team score 8-12!☘️🤼‍♂️

160: #2 Jordan Slivka loses to #1(D1) and #2 nationally Cameron Amine 7-4 to make the team score 8-15!☘️🤼‍♂️

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2 hours ago, navy80 said:

Tough loss for Cathedral... they got smoked BUT lost 5 matches by decision. So it was closer than the score..16-40.  

The Irish win 

113
Zeke Seltzer (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Caleb White (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (TF 23-8 3:40)
5
0
 
120Luke Gonzalez (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Matthew Anderson (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (Dec 3-2)
3
0
 
126Lukasz Walendzak (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Kamron Davenport (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (TF 16-1 4:52)
5
0
 
132Logan Bailey (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Dominick Lomazzo (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (Dec 4-1)

What? How do you go from being smoked with a score of 16-40 to it even being considered close? 

Mosconi lost 7-1 not close

Rodgers lost 6-2 somewhat close

Slivka lost 9-4 not close

Huffman lost 5-2 somewhat close

Guhl lost 1-0 now that’s close

lost 5 matches by major or worse

Good to see them seek out tough competition but let’s not sugar coat a loss. 

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7 minutes ago, IndianaWrestlingGuy said:

That is incorrect. Those are the 3 young men that beat us. 

145: #3 Alex Mosconi loses to #1(D1) and #18 nationally Derek Glicher 7-1 to make the team score 8-9!☘️🤼‍♂️

152: #2 Elliott Rodgers loses to #2(D1) and #7 nationally Kevon Davenport 6-2 to make the team score 8-12!☘️🤼‍♂️

160: #2 Jordan Slivka loses to #1(D1) and #2 nationally Cameron Amine 7-4 to make the team score 8-15!☘️🤼‍♂️

Those are results that breed lessons.  Obviously.....it’s never ok to celebrate defeat.  But man......the Rogers & Slivka matches show a very small gap to close.  Especially Jordan’s!  That’s a solid performance against a ridiculously talented Amine.  

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39 minutes ago, IndianaWrestlingGuy said:

That is incorrect. Those are the 3 young men that beat us. 

145: #3 Alex Mosconi loses to #1(D1) and #18 nationally Derek Glicher 7-1 to make the team score 8-9!☘️🤼‍♂️

152: #2 Elliott Rodgers loses to #2(D1) and #7 nationally Kevon Davenport 6-2 to make the team score 8-12!☘️🤼‍♂️

160: #2 Jordan Slivka loses to #1(D1) and #2 nationally Cameron Amine 7-4 to make the team score 8-15!☘️🤼‍♂️

Then someone sure as hell entered it into Track Wrestling badly....

Though that does make more sense.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
106
Anthony Walker (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over Evan Dickey (Indianapolis Cathedral) (TF 20-5 4:50)
0
5
 
113
Zeke Seltzer (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Caleb White (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (TF 23-8 3:40)
5
0
 
120
Luke Gonzalez (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Matthew Anderson (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (Dec 3-2)
3
0
 
126
Lukasz Walendzak (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Kamron Davenport (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (TF 16-1 4:52)
5
0
 
132
Logan Bailey (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Dominick Lomazzo (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (Dec 4-1)
3
0
 
138
Joshua Edmond (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over Andrew Wilson (Indianapolis Cathedral) (Fall 0:32)
0
6
 
145
Marc Shaeffer (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over Alex Mosconi (Indianapolis Cathedral) (Dec 7-1)
0
3
 
152
Giovanni Tregembo (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over Elliott Rodgers (Indianapolis Cathedral) (Dec 6-2)
0
3
 
160
Joseph Urso (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over Jordan Slivka (Indianapolis Cathedral) (Dec 9-4)
0
3
 
170
Manuel Rojas (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over Tyler Wagner (Indianapolis Cathedral) (MD 15-6)
0
4
 
182
John Browning (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over Jacob Huffman (Indianapolis Cathedral) (Dec 5-2)
0
3
 
195
Easton Turner (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over Luke Adams (Indianapolis Cathedral) (MD 19-7)
0
4
 
220
Brendin Yatooma (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over David Guhl (Indianapolis Cathedral) (Dec 1-0)
0
3
 
285
Michael Olind (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over Alex Taylor (Indianapolis Cathedral) (Fall 0:58)
0
6
Team Score:
16
40

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30 minutes ago, 1prouddad said:

What? How do you go from being smoked with a score of 16-40 to it even being considered close? 

Mosconi lost 7-1 not close

Rodgers lost 6-2 somewhat close

Slivka lost 9-4 not close

Huffman lost 5-2 somewhat close

Guhl lost 1-0 now that’s close

lost 5 matches by major or worse

Good to see them seek out tough competition but let’s not sugar coat a loss. 

Ah, don’t look too much into my quick analysis. The score makes it looked like a bad loss. But the matchups make it look closer than the score. 

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Can someone confirm who they wrestled? Like swim fan says track has a completely different lineup.

 

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20 minutes ago, Loki27 said:

Can someone confirm who they wrestled? Like swim fan says track has a completely different lineup.

 

I will say that if you look at the Cathedral - Dundee match, it shows Casey Swiderski wrestling both 106 and 113.  I'm guessing that's not correct so mistakes would not surprise me. 

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For confirmation on matches from the dual visit DCC's twitter page: https://twitter.com/DCCWrestling

 

Also, one correction from our twitter (@ChsSwamp): Slivka's match versus Amine was actually 9-4, not 7-4 after Amine scored a last-second takedown following a late desperation shot from Slivka.

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126 
 Lukasz Walendzak (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Kamron Davenport (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (TF 16-1 4:52)
5
0
 
132 
 Logan Bailey (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Dominick Lomazzo (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (Dec 4-1)
3
0
 
138 
 Joshua Edmond (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over Andrew Wilson (Indianapolis Cathedral) (Fall 0:32)
0
6
 
145 
 Derek Gilcher (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over Alex Mosconi (Indianapolis Cathedral) (Dec 7-1)
0
3
 
152 
 Kevon Davenport (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over Elliott Rodgers (Indianapolis Cathedral) (Dec 6-2)
0
3
 
160 
 Cameron Amine (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over Jordan Slivka (Indianapolis Cathedral) (Dec 9-4)
0
3
 
170 
 Manuel Rojas (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over Tyler Wagner (Indianapolis Cathedral) (MD 15-6)
0
4
 
182 
 John Browning (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over Jacob Huffman (Indianapolis Cathedral) (Dec 5-2)
0
3
 
195 
 Easton Turner (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over Luke Adams (Indianapolis Cathedral) (MD 19-7)
0
4
 
220 
 Brendin Yatooma (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over David Guhl (Indianapolis Cathedral) (Dec 1-0)
0
3
 
285 
 Steven Kolcheff (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over Alex Taylor (Indianapolis Cathedral) (Fall 0:58)
0
6
 
106 
 Anthony Walker (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over Evan Dickey (Indianapolis Cathedral) (TF 20-5 4:50)
0
5
 
113 
 Zeke Seltzer (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Valentino Scicluna (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (TF 23-8 3:40)
5
0
 
120 
 Luke Gonzalez (Indianapolis Cathedral) over Matthew Anderson (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (Dec 3-2)

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5 hours ago, Sig40 said:

DCC beat Mount Carmel by 1.  Mount Carmel I believe had 5 Indiana kids in their lineup for that dual.

And don’t they have some of our coaches too?

 

do you have results for that match? I’d like to see how it compares to Cathedral’s match. 

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36 minutes ago, navy80 said:

And don’t they have some of our coaches too?

 

do you have results for that match? I’d like to see how it compares to Cathedral’s match. 

 
152
Joseph Urso (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over drew mulay (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) (Dec 5-0)
0
3
 
160
Cameron Amine (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over ashton breen (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) (Dec 4-3)
0
3
 
170
Kevon Davenport (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over asa terrell (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) (Dec 7-3)
0
3
 
182
danny benoit (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) over John Browning (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (Dec 10-4)
3
0
 
195
Easton Turner (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over robert bowman (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) (MD 10-2)
0
4
 
220
Brendin Yatooma (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over nick mishka (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) (Fall 3:47)
0
6
 
285
Steven Kolcheff (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over jalen grant (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) (Fall 1:48)
0
6
 
106
jordon blew (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) over Anthony Walker (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (Fall 0:40)
6
0
 
113
coltan drousias (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) over Valentino Scicluna (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (Fall 1:22)
6
0
 
120
rehan uribe (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) over Matthew Anderson (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (Fall 1:22)
6
0
 
126
noah mis (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) over Philip Burney (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (Fall 4:33)
6
0
 
132
Camden Trupp (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over alex lalazas (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) (Dec 6-5)
0
3
 
138
Joshua Edmond (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over connor gaynor (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) (Dec 10-5)
0
3
 
145
miles hoey (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) over Derek Gilcher (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (Dec 8-3)
3
0
Team Score:
30
31

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Just now, SWINfan said:
 
152
Joseph Urso (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over drew mulay (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) (Dec 5-0)
0
3
 
160
Cameron Amine (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over ashton breen (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) (Dec 4-3)
0
3
 
170
Kevon Davenport (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over asa terrell (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) (Dec 7-3)
0
3
 
182
danny benoit (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) over John Browning (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (Dec 10-4)
3
0
 
195
Easton Turner (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over robert bowman (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) (MD 10-2)
0
4
 
220
Brendin Yatooma (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over nick mishka (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) (Fall 3:47)
0
6
 
285
Steven Kolcheff (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over jalen grant (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) (Fall 1:48)
0
6
 
106
jordon blew (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) over Anthony Walker (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (Fall 0:40)
6
0
 
113
coltan drousias (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) over Valentino Scicluna (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (Fall 1:22)
6
0
 
120
rehan uribe (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) over Matthew Anderson (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (Fall 1:22)
6
0
 
126
noah mis (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) over Philip Burney (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (Fall 4:33)
6
0
 
132
Camden Trupp (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over alex lalazas (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) (Dec 6-5)
0
3
 
138
Joshua Edmond (Detroit Catholic Central HS) over connor gaynor (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) (Dec 10-5)
0
3
 
145
miles hoey (Chicago (Mt. Carmel)) over Derek Gilcher (Detroit Catholic Central HS) (Dec 8-3)
3
0
Team Score:
30
31

Have to assume its correct, but there are definite changes in the lineup vs. what there was Saturday.  Then again, Saturday's results were incorrect until changed sometime Sunday.

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Which are the Indiana residents wrestling for Mt. Carmel? Which school districts do they live in?

This is one small element of the region dropping off in dominance that might not get discussed--seems there are more and more kids heading to Illinois private schools. If you add 5 Mt. Carmel starters to the East Chicago semi-state representatives at state, it certainly would add some nice depth.

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1 hour ago, maligned said:

Which are the Indiana residents wrestling for Mt. Carmel? Which school districts do they live in?

This is one small element of the region dropping off in dominance that might not get discussed--seems there are more and more kids heading to Illinois private schools. If you add 5 Mt. Carmel starters to the East Chicago semi-state representatives at state, it certainly would add some nice depth.

#14 Colten Drousias- Hanover Central(if his dad was still the coach there, they may have formed up a power house) I know had an offer on a house in that school district right up until they let Mike go. 

Noah Mis- Griffith

Rehan Uribe- Crown Point

Robert Bowman- Griffith

Nick Mishka- Lowell I believe 

Miles Hoey- possibly Lake Central 

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2 hours ago, maligned said:

Which are the Indiana residents wrestling for Mt. Carmel? Which school districts do they live in?

This is one small element of the region dropping off in dominance that might not get discussed--seems there are more and more kids heading to Illinois private schools. If you add 5 Mt. Carmel starters to the East Chicago semi-state representatives at state, it certainly would add some nice depth.

One sub-point to this in terms of ECC semi-state depth is that I suppose Culver Academies is doing some heavy lifting in replacing that lost talent with another state's high-end imports.

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