maligned Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Below are the UNOFFICIAL State Duals qualifying scores for 2A through sectional. In 2A, these scores are somewhat meaningful already. Your team will need about 150 or more to realistically earn an automatic invite. You will need approximately 135 or more to be in voting consideration. Teams that have already approached those positions are in very good shape. On the other hand, some teams far down the list can still make enormous jumps in the next two weeks. All classification of teams is subject to change with the new IHSAA classification data that will be released in early March. Old enrollment data is here: http://www.ihsaa.org/Portals/0/ihsaa/documents/quick%20resources/Boys%27%20Basketball%20Classifications%202013-15.pdf The current cutoff between 3A and 2A is between New Castle and Shelbyville. IF YOU ARE NEAR THAT CUTOFF, YOU MIGHT NOT BE IN 2A! DON'T COUNT ON ANY CLASSIFICATION BEING OFFICIAL UNTIL MARCH! The cutoff between 2A and 1A is right now between Southmont and Indy Cardinal Ritter. If you're near that line, you could move down to 1A with the new data. There is not a good way to format this information on this new board. The first number is your team's score right now. The second is your regional Category (which reflects the quota of semi-state scoring positions available at each weight for your regional). The third number is how many guys you still have alive and the final number is how many points are available for you to score at regional. Class 2A Teams Total Reg. Category Still Alive Pts Available @ Reg.Delta 158.0 4 12 48New Palestine 148.0 5 10 36Mount Vernon (Posey) 144.0 6 10 38Bellmont 140.0 4 12 44Evansville Memorial 138.0 6 9 32Yorktown 134.0 4 14 42West Lafayette 132.0 3 10 36South Dearborn 132.0 3 11 38Southmont 131.0 5 12 42Lebanon 128.0 5 8 24Franklin County 127.0 3 12 38Jimtown 127.0 4 9 32North Montgomery 126.0 5 10 34Leo 124.0 5 9 32NorthWood 120.0 4 6 20Garrett 119.0 5 7 24Gibson Southern 118.0 6 6 18Columbia City 116.0 5 8 26Hamilton Heights 111.0 3 9 32Fort Wayne Concordia Lutheran 109.0 5 3 12Southridge 106.0 3 12 68Edgewood 105.0 3 8 26Greensburg 105.0 3 8 30Benton Central 104.0 3 7 24Peru 104.0 2 12 76Beech Grove 104.0 5 5 18Kankakee Valley 103.0 3 7 26Heritage Hills 100.0 6 6 14Frankfort 100.0 5 3 12Crawfordsville 94.0 5 7 24Rochester 94.0 5 9 24Delphi 93.0 3 7 24Fairfield 92.0 4 3 12New Prairie 91.0 3 11 60South Bend St. Joseph 90.0 5 7 18Griffith 87.0 4 8 22Indian Creek 87.0 6 4 16Fort Wayne Bishop Dwenger 85.0 5 5 18 Madison 84.0 3 9 24West Noble 84.0 4 7 22Mishawaka Marian 83.0 5 3 12Culver Academies 82.0 5 6 20 Whitko 82.0 5 6 18Hammond Gavit 81.0 4 5 20Western 80.0 2 8 42Danville 77.0 6 7 24New Haven 77.0 5 7 20Hanover Central 76.0 3 6 20Lakeland 74.0 4 6 20Pike Central 71.0 6 3 10Lawrenceburg 71.0 3 4 14Northview 70.0 3 5 20Brown County 70.0 3 5 16Jasper 70.0 3 12 78Rushville 68.0 3 5 18Calumet 67.0 4 5 14South Vermillion 66.0 5 6 18Eastbrook 65.0 2 9 64Heritage 63.0 5 5 18Andrean 62.0 3 4 12Rensselaer Central 62.0 3 4 14Greencastle 61.0 6 4 14Twin Lakes 60.0 3 7 42Tri-West Hendricks 58.0 6 4 16Princeton 58.0 6 3 10Owen Valley 57.0 3 4 14Blackford 57.0 4 3 10Northwestern 57.0 2 5 31Angola 55.0 4 3 12Wawasee 54.0 5 4 14Sullivan 52.0 3 3 10Charlestown 52.0 3 8 50West Vigo 50.0 3 3 10Scottsburg 49.0 3 3 8Glenn 49.0 3 5 22Vincennes Lincoln 48.0 6 2 4Tipton 48.0 3 3 10Batesville 48.0 3 4 12North Putnam 45.0 6 0 0Wheeler 45.0 3 2 8Mitchell 43.0 3 7 51Fort Wayne Bishop Luers 42.0 5 3 12Hammond Clark 41.0 4 3 8Western Boone 41.0 5 1 2Salem 38.0 3 6 64Guerin Catholic 37.0 3 1 4Norwell 35.0 4 2 8Tippecanoe Valley 34.0 5 3 8Knox 32.0 3 2 8Maconaquah 32.0 2 5 60Shelbyville 32.0 5 0 0Boonville 33.0 6 2 4Washington 31.0 3 3 18Indianapolis Bishop Chatard 30.0 3 5 40Corydon Central 29.0 3 3 23Hammond 25.0 4 2 6Boone Grove 24.0 3 1 2Indianapolis Washington 22.0 5 4 33Brebeuf Jesuit 19.0 3 2 24Mississinewa 17.0 2 2 24Evansville Bosse 10.0 6 0 0Indianapolis Marshall 4.0 5 0 0 (less than 3 participants at sectional; will not be classified) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 A quick reminder based on questions people are asking me: Top score from each class for each semi-state gets an automatic bid. Then, the next 6 highest scores get automatic bids as well. Finally, the next highest few scores are considered by the selection committee for voting in the final 2 spots to complete the field of 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlevito Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Top Scores in each Semi-State Evansville Mount Vernon (Posey) 144 Fort Wayne Delta 158 Merrillville West Lafayette 132 New Castle New Palestine 148 Next Top 6 scores Bellmont 140 Evansville Memorial 138 Yorktown 134 South Dearborn 132 Southmont 131 Lebanon 128 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdpd8b Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 isn't New Pal a 3A school currently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 With the exclusion of those teams with just a few entrants, New Pal currently projects as a 2A team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 Data is now "official" through sectional. We are fully finished with all double-checks. There are newly posted minor changes to Madison, Boonvile, Whitko, and FW Concordia data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westforkwhite Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Is there a prior post on how the scoring works? Trying to figure out how Bellmont has the same number of wrestlers qualify for regional (12) as Delta, but have a four point lower max score potential (48 vs. 44). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 Procedures are outlined here: http://www.ihswca.org/news/selection2015 In short, though, it's because Delta has a younger team. They have more current points and they have potential to score more than Bellmont next week--in both cases because more of their guys still alive are underclassmen. Regional and semi-state qualifiers for underclassmen in 2A receive 12 and 16 points, respectively. The same advancement levels for seniors receive only 6 and 8 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westforkwhite Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Procedures are outlined here: http://www.ihswca.org/news/selection2015 In short, though, it's because Delta has a younger team. They have more current points and they have potential to score more than Bellmont next week--in both cases because more of their guys still alive are underclassmen. Regional and semi-state qualifiers for underclassmen in 2A receive 12 and 16 points, respectively. The same advancement levels for seniors receive only 6 and 8 points. Thanks. Makes good sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppe66 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I'm not being able to come up with the correct amount of points. Can someone pick a team and show how they got their points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 Here's Madison: 6 senior regional qualifiers = 6 x 6 = 363 underclass regional = 3 x 12 = 362 underclass sectional 5th/6th = 2 x 4 = 81 underclass sectional no-place = 2 Bonus points for having two forfeits = 2 (bonus in 2A is 8 for 0 FFs, 4 for 1 FF, and 2 for 2 FFs)36 + 36 + 8 + 2 + 2 = 84 It could be also that you're not considering your sectional's Category, which determines the quota of awarded regional positions per weight class for your sectional. What's your school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Thanks Maligned, just made me realized how bad much of a rebuilding year next season will be...lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppe66 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Lebanon is the school I'm trying to figure out and it doesn't add up. 4 Seniors regional qualifiers 4 x 6 = 24 4 underclassmen qualifiers 4 x 12 = 48 4 underclassmen 5th & 6th 4 x 4 = 16 1 underclassmen no place 1 x 2 = 2 1 forfeit bonus 1 x 2 = 2 Total is 92 but list shows 128 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlevito Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Lebanon is the school I'm trying to figure out and it doesn't add up. 4 Seniors regional qualifiers 4 x 6 = 24 4 underclassmen qualifiers 4 x 12 = 48 4 underclassmen 5th & 6th 4 x 4 = 16 1 underclassmen no place 1 x 2 = 2 1 forfeit bonus 1 x 2 = 2 Total is 92 but list shows 128 They are in a category 6 Sectional, meaning if they placed in the top 6 at sectional, then they got Regional points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Spires Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I know Yorktown is more senior dominated than Delta, but it's still weird to see Delta ahead of them by 24 points when Yorktown outscored them by 117 at sectionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 7, 2015 Author Share Posted February 7, 2015 They are in a category 6 Sectional, meaning if they placed in the top 6 at sectional, then they got Regional points. Right. Lebanon is in a Category 6 sectional, meaning Top 6 get regional points and the two non-placing quarterfinalists at each weight get sectional 5th/6th points. Lebanon had 4 underclass sectional 5/6 guys upgraded to regional points and 1 underclass non-placer upgraded to sectional 5/6 points. So the totals look like this: 4 seniors to regional = 4 x 6 = 24 8 underclassman w/ regional points = 8 x 12 = 96 1 underclassman w/ sectional 5/6 points = 4 Bonus for having only 1 forfeit = 4 24 + 96 + 4 + 4 = 128 I know Yorktown is more senior dominated than Delta, but it's still weird to see Delta ahead of them by 24 points when Yorktown outscored them by 117 at sectionals. That's because placement at sectional didn't matter at all...just advancement. Right now, we're looking at point totals as if we've wrestled the first round of a 32-man individual tournament. There's no way, yet, to factor in the fact that many more of the Yorktown guys will go far than will the Delta guys. Those points come later. Last year, Yorktown was in about the same spot after sectional. With this scoring system, they would have had a final score of 267, compared to Bellmont in 2nd at 205 and everybody else at about 185 and lower. As you can see...Yorktown will separate themselves if they get a bunch to later rounds of the state tournament again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bog190 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Sorry guys, was late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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