unknown wrestler Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Just thinking how fun it would be to see the rematch with a healthy Boston this time. I heard he had a broken finger last time. Any thoughts on who wins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooke Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 The fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I tried talking Micic in coming to the IHPO to wrestle Boston again. He still has the option of showing up tomorrow at weigh-ins. Maybe if Drookie pays his entry he will show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Micic, Wilson or if red is that big would make that 123 weight that much better. I would love to see boston vs Micic 3 maybe at senior nationals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Spires Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I'd pick Micic in a closer match than they had at state two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I think Spires vs. Boston would be a great matchup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown wrestler Posted September 7, 2013 Author Share Posted September 7, 2013 I think boston takes him all day! Boston is bigger and just nasty. Last year he looked great at indiana mat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I think Micic would win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCKAJC Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I think boston takes him all day! Boston is bigger and just nasty. Last year he looked great at indiana mat. LOL! I've heard this before. Micic walked through Fila Cadets and Fargo without giving up a point or wresting out of the 1st period. And while still a Fila Cadet wrestled up at the Fila Juniors and took 5th beating several College wrestlers. He's ranked #1 in the US for a reason. Boston is 10th for a reason as well. I really don't think this match would be very close. As ontherise219 said the two of them meeting up at Junior nationals would be a fitting close the their HS careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 MC, Boston is as high as 5th in some rankings, but I would agree Micic's put together a bigger national résumé in the last few years. While Micic has been a major freestyle force, Boston has stuck with Folkstyle event. Though Boston has done well in the evebts he enters, Micics expanded body of work probably helps give him the nod for most Rankers and fantasy match predictors. I'd go with Micic right now based on recent success, but Boston is still a dangerous opponent for any of the top lightweights. Drooke's right though that the fans win if the match ever does occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbburn12 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Irrespective of their rankings this match would feature two very close wrestlers. What would be interesting to me is how this would figure in the debate that freestyle work helps in folkstyle.You have as I understand Boston wrestling folkstyle in the off season while Micic not only wrestled freestyle all summer but had the benefit if working with some of the best coaches in the country. Should Boston prevail it might it might go to the "keep wrestling folkstyle" in the summer argument. Were Micic win and in fact win in a dominating fashion it would go a long way to the argument of wrestling freestyle in the off season to help the folkstyle. Maybe if Micic doesn't come which would make sense for him to give himself a rest from a pretty intense summer schedule there may in fact be other matchups in this meet that would be towards this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Spires Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I think Spires vs. Boston would be a great matchup! That would be interesting! Just gotta get Boston to bump up 40 pounds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bob 77 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 LOL! I've heard this before. Micic walked through Fila Cadets and Fargo without giving up a point or wresting out of the 1st period. And while still a Fila Cadet wrestled up at the Fila Juniors and took 5th beating several College wrestlers. He's ranked #1 in the US for a reason. Boston is 10th for a reason as well. I really don't think this match would be very close. As ontherise219 said the two of them meeting up at Junior nationals would be a fitting close the their HS careers. Don't like your logic although I agree with your pick, but logic like yours suggest that maybe only the top 4 kids ranked by whatever poll show up because #10 verses #1 is a mismatch. We wrestle the matches for a reason, and I would think you've been around long enough to realize the ignorance of such a bizarre statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling0021 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Hayden Lee was giving Boston all he could handle besides a few end of the match points given up while going for the win. Based on this I think Micic beats Boston.. A md. What a match by lee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCKAJC Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 logic like yours suggest that maybe only the top 4 kids ranked by whatever poll show up because #10 verses #1 is a mismatch. We wrestle the matches for a reason, and I would think you've been around long enough to realize the ignorance of such a bizarre statement From most perspectives in may appear to be ignorance but in reality its the knowledge I have about this subject. I've had the privilege of being in the right place at the right time to watch Micic train with the likes of Jesse Delgado and several other NCAA wrestlers and coaches. When I see how he handles that level of competition it leaves no question in my mind that this kid is more prepared for the next level than many of todays college freshman. So while it's no more than my opinion, and my be slightly biased. It's based on what I've witnessed not just what I think. When I see the kid take down an NCAA champ it's fairly astounding I think you'll agree. At our practices watching Micic roll with Mich, IL and IN state placers and champs that are 25-30 pounds bigger, yet he controls the action. So it would seem this is more evidence than opinion. To even say "we wrestle matches for a reason" to me is bizarre. Of course matches are wrestled for a reason. But in several weigh classes at the national level there are wrestlers that have separated themselves from the pack. Micic is one of those competitors. Like it or not today that's a proven fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bob 77 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 From most perspectives in may appear to be ignorance but in reality its the knowledge I have about this subject. I've had the privilege of being in the right place at the right time to watch Micic train with the likes of Jesse Delgado and several other NCAA wrestlers and coaches. When I see how he handles that level of competition it leaves no question in my mind that this kid is more prepared for the next level than many of todays college freshman. So while it's no more than my opinion, and my be slightly biased. It's based on what I've witnessed not just what I think. When I see the kid take down an NCAA champ it's fairly astounding I think you'll agree. At our practices watching Micic roll with Mich, IL and IN state placers and champs that are 25-30 pounds bigger, yet he controls the action. So it would seem this is more evidence than opinion. To even say "we wrestle matches for a reason" to me is bizarre. Of course matches are wrestled for a reason. But in several weigh classes at the national level there are wrestlers that have separated themselves from the pack. Micic is one of those competitors. Like it or not today that's a proven fact. Its also a proven fact heavy favorites loose matches they should win, I agreed with you that I think Micic wins, but Anderson Silva would still be the UFC Champ if big upsets didn't happen in the sporting world, or are you saying wrestling is immune to this? Micic is not as dominate IMO as Silva was in this weight class prior to his defeat, he was the world champion for God sakes... I think your just a little over zealous over this kid , and yes he's a kid like many others that are special, that will take his lumps and probably be better for it, but he certainly is beatable my others his age! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown wrestler Posted September 9, 2013 Author Share Posted September 9, 2013 Ok after watching him compete yesterday I change my mind! Micic blows him away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCKAJC Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I certainly don't mean to down play the ability of Nathan Boston. Iowa St. got themselves a fine wrestler. He's proven to be a winner. I think many people fail at times to realize there is always another level. And right now Micic is at a different level in very much the same way Jason Tsirtsis was as a senior. When I personally hear those words from John Smith, well, it sticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Caller Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Just thinking how fun it would be to see the rematch with a healthy Boston this time. I heard he had a broken finger last time. Any thoughts on who wins? From what I was told, It was a torn ligament but dont quote me 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bob 77 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I certainly don't mean to down play the ability of Nathan Boston. Iowa St. got themselves a fine wrestler. He's proven to be a winner. I think many people fail at times to realize there is always another level. And right now Micic is at a different level in very much the same way Jason Tsirtsis was as a senior. When I personally hear those words from John Smith, well, it sticks. Mike Tyson was on a different level than Buster Douglas also, but the worse thing that can happen is for Micic to buy into that I'm too good syndrome. I don't think he thinks at all like this, but it all starts with people around him filling his head with nonsense. He is special but so was Tyson, Ali, and heck even Gable lost his last college match against at least a #10, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 John Smith is filling his head with nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bob 77 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 John Smith is filling his head with nonsense? No wiseass but people who have insinuated Boston's not in his league, and people who treat him like a O my God, as some are doing on this thread are the types who fill a kids head and treat them as they are larger than life, and when these kids listen and start to believe that nonsense, it often leads to their lack of progression they were projected to become . The kids great and I repeat for the 5th time that I think he wins against Boston, I just can't be so arrogant as to say a #10 Boston verses a #1 Micic is a mismatch, as if the rankings have ever decided a match. As I stated before to MCKAJC statement, "that's why we wrestle the matches" or do you forget there was a time Boston was much more highly ranked then Micic, so that in itself says it all! :-* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 No wiseass but people who have insinuated Boston's not in his league, and people who treat him like a O my God, as some are doing on this thread are the types who fill a kids head and treat them as they are larger than life, and when these kids listen and start to believe that nonsense, it often leads to their lack of progression they were projected to become . The kids great and I repeat for the 5th time that I think he wins against Boston, I just can't be so arrogant as to say a #10 Boston verses a #1 Micic is a mismatch, as if the rankings have ever decided a match. As I stated before to MCKAJC statement, "that's why we wrestle the matches" or do you forget there was a time Boston was much more highly ranked then Micic, so that in itself says it all! :-* I gather it was John Smith who told MCKAC that Steven is on a different level? Not being a wise acre, just wondering where your evidence is that he is not on another level. MCKAC has given plenty to prove his point and I trust that Team Micic will heed your warning and not listen to the experts who are filling his head with nonsense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 This topic reminds me of Cubs/White Sox talk...except instead of 2 god awful baseball teams its 2 fantastic young wrestlers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCKAJC Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I gather it was John Smith who told MCKAC that Steven is on a different level? Not being a wise acre, just wondering where your evidence is that he is not on another level. MCKAC has given plenty to prove his point and I trust that Team Micic will heed your warning and not listen to the experts who are filling his head with nonsense... Your correct Karl. During the time I've known the Micic family which extends over the past 7 years or so. The thing that has stuck out the most to me is maybe the fact that Stevan is still the same respectful polite kid he was when he was 10-11 years old. His dad, in spite of not being a wrester himself, might be one of the best wrestling coaches I've encountered. He's given both my sons advise that they have written on the wall of our workout room. So I don't think proper guidance, a big head or over confidence will ever be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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