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1 minute ago, Y2CJ41 said:

The signal the ref made ON THE MAT was flagrant misconduct. He was disqualified due to the actions ON THE MAT.

Thanks for the clarification.  I didn't know that would erase you from the whole tournament.  You can't tell from the video what was said or what may have happened during the match, so it's hard to judge without full context.  

6 minutes ago, casualwrestlingfan said:

Thought the radio said Harper had won 2-0 and then they were at each other  or at least the New Haven wrestler was irritated. 

 

Dane mentioned someone needed to separate them in the tunnel before things got really heated.

Harper finished off the match on the mat with double boots in.  After the whistle, Harper rolled off him and as Elkins   got up he stepped over Harper and there was a little bravado, but nothing big.  As they stood to shake hands, Elkins said something and they ended up nose to nose very briefly.  They were separated quickly and Elkins was hit with a flagrant misconduct, deducting 3 team points.  What happened after that was not on that camera.  I doubt what happened on the mat led to a full DQ, but probably led to it as mentioned.

1 minute ago, 1prouddad said:

Pretty sure the misconduct was called on the mat after match was concluded. He was initially the winner till the incident. 

We got that now.  I was referring to the initial post in the thread which gave no specific info.  

14 minutes ago, MattM said:

Oh take your time IHSAA.  Nothing important occuring like say kids earning state medals for their entire season of hard work. How did they get the first two rounds of streaming off well, but mucked this one up when nothing really have changed with the process?

From what I can tell, it appears their video is going thru Hudl.  Seems that's where the anger should be directed.  As far as money goes, that's another story.

2 minutes ago, casualwrestlingfan said:

Looks like New Haven. Radio said he & Harper were beefing from end of the match & into the tunnels.

Seems it would be a lot easier to just say that initially

They're working fine thru Track Wrestling/Flo

4 minutes ago, purdue02 said:

Should consolation matches at state have 1 minute first periods?  Always thought it was weird that the guys wrestling for 3rd place in the state only have a 5 minute match. 

NO, they shouldn't.  Just like the 3rd/4th place match at SS should not be shortened.

3 minutes ago, blueandgold said:

I’m happy to say I’ve been telling @FCFIGHTER170 all year Zar Walker could take the title.

Where has FCFighter been?

Between Betz, Getz and Beck, I'm not sure which way is up at times when looking at the brackets.  Toss in a couple of Rioux's, Cressell's, Terry's and Schaefer's, and that's a lot.  Not sure who are brothers, cousins or just share a namesake, but lots of duplication of surnames for sure.

Zar Walker vs Ethan Doster for the Title tonight.  

After reading this thread, I'd say the OP was spot on and a whole bunch of people were wrong big time.  I think only one or two replies mentioned Walker and I didn't see any mentioning Doster at all.

Just goes to show, there are no absolutes, but there is a lot of empty bravado and hot air on a message board.  

This is my favorite round every year.  Always some awesome matchups and matches.  Will definitely be "Top 4" wrestlers that will lose and end up 5th.

2 hours ago, Wrestling Scholar said:

Not only do we not have wrestle backs, we dont have consolation either.  IHSAA loves abreviating wrestling.

They were fixed at least 6 hours before this comment.

2 minutes ago, rdrodd1 said:

She pinned him twice!

Not to mention being down 9-1 after the 1st period and coming all the way back to take a 10-9 lead before getting the fall.  Crowd went nuts!

Who's the dummy that brought in crappy weather?  Someone from up north who complained about the trip, with voodoo skills, of course!

On 2/14/2024 at 7:30 PM, tyquhp13 said:

Will the parade of Champions be broadcast with the streaming purchase?

"We have put a request to Flo to start streaming Mat 1 at 1:25 for the parade. Hopefully that helps. It is going to be a camera pointing at the entrance. That is likely all we can really do for that."

On 2/14/2024 at 7:30 PM, tyquhp13 said:

Will the parade of Champions be broadcast with the streaming purchase?

I can only go by past years, but the simple answer is no.  Once the mat cameras go live, you can typically see the kids walking around and hear the PA in the background, but just from mat side cameras.  There is no production or broadcast of it as an event, per se.  

That said, I hope I'm wrong and they've changed things up a bit.  But that's how it has been.

A couple of random examples during the finals.

I mentioned this in a other thread, but I'll repeat here.  The glare from the l8ghts onto the mats today was really bad.  At first, I thought it was outside daylight shining in, but it got worse later in the day.  The video quality was very poor today.

Buy an Amazon Fire Stick. They're cheap. It will plug into any modern TV. You can download the Flo or IHSAATV app and watch thru it on most any TV where there is WIFI. If you end up not needing it, return it. 

Well said.  I was confident you would share the details and in a way to not throw the referee under the bus (not saying I think you believed anything different than what you said). I knew you'd handle it with class, yet be straight.  

I agree the match ended with the proper result, and appreciate how it was handled.  Happy to hear Preston is on the road to recovery.  

I will say I think the comment about him walking around was initially misconstrued.  I believe he said he was standing and talking.  On camera it did appear as he was standing, but couldn't tell if it was on his own or with help.  And not serious could simply mean something dire such as paralysis seemed to be avoided at that point.  I don't think there was any negative intent with the comment. 

The bottom line is kudos to how it was handled and hopefully there is a quick recovery. Good luck at State.

For those at the Ford Center, operating staff and IHSAA, I encourage you to watch some of today's matches, especially Mat 2 during the finals. The glare from the lights on the mat is so bad you can barely see half the mat and seeing any detail on anything not on the side nearest the camera is next to impossible. It has been a problem all day.

I really hope they address that next weekend.  The video experience today at Evansville has been less than stellar.

 

4 minutes ago, WRFan said:

So the answer is, “no” you don’t KNOW for sure. That was my comment prior to your first response. 

If you know something to the contrary, state it.  If not, shut up.  The score wasn't changed, the kid was hurt, BB did the right thing and no one disrespected Henderson.  Not sure what your point is other than to see your own words.  None of what you are trying to say has ANY importance.

7 minutes ago, WRFan said:

lol. Yeah, ok, buddy. Read it how you want. lol.

Do you KNOW the call wasn’t reversed?

The score was never changed, and as I watched, the referee never went to the table to tell them to change it, so that's good enough for me.  

5 minutes ago, WRFan said:

The call should’ve been, and could’ve been, reversed by the asst ref, which may very well have been what happened. Do you know whether or not that was the case?

Could, should and maybe don't change facts.  No one knows what may have happened if BB took a different stance.  But none of that was necessary.  Not sure why you are so hurt about it.  Henderson moved on and right now the most important thing is that Preston Haines recovers fully.  Not a single person has disrespected Ty Henderson. Perspective is important. Perhaps trying to change the angle of your view to get the correct one?