H1N1 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 What is the official Sectional seeding criteria? Is it on ihsaa website? I couldn't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randalllynch Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Winter Bulletin Mandatory Procedures to Follow at the Sectional Seeding Meeting 1. Equipment and Supplies: Chalkboard/White Board, numbers and shaker bottle; sufficient chairs and tables; sufficient blank bracket sheets for each weight class and coach. Brackets will also be needed for classes in which all schools do not enter. 2. Have the head coach stand, introduce himself and his assistant and tell what school they represent. 3. Follow the conduct of tournament recommendations in the Official Wrestling Rules–Rule 10. 4. Each coach is to prepare a complete individual record of his wrestlers to be seeded including opponents’ names, schools and match scores. 5. Coaches should strive to keep open minds when seeding assignments are being decided. The main objective of seeding is to have outstanding wrestlers separated in the brackets so that they will not meet each other until the finals. Seeding shall be based upon the wrestler's proven ability and not upon the desire for unwarranted advantage. 6. Determination of seeded wrestlers is given in order of importance: a. Head to head competition; (The wrestler with the most head to head wins gets the seed. If they have beaten each other an equal number of times, then the winner of the last match gets the seed.); b. Record against common opponents; c. Semi‐State quarterfinalist in IHSAA Tournament Series; d. A contestant with the best overall record (winning percentage) who has wrestled at least 10 matches; e. Farthest advancement in previous year IHSAA State Tournament Series; f. Draw by lot. Criteria is reset after determining each seed. NOTE: A wrestler with less than ten matches may not be seeded ahead of a wrestler with at least ten matches and a winning record unless he/she meets criteria in a, b or c. A wrestler with a losing record may not be seeded unless he/she meets criteria a, b or c unless there are less than six (6) wrestlers in the bracket. 7. A seeded contestant shall have the same opportunity to draw for a bye as other contestants in his bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grappleapple Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Here's what I found on the IHSAA site. 1) head to head - if the wrestlers have beaten each other, it resorts to last victory 2) Record against common opponents 3) Semistate quarterfinalist in the previous IHSAA semistate 4) Best overall record (winning percentage) 5) Farthest advancement in previous IHSAA state tournament series **A wrestler with less than 10 matches may not be seeded higher than a wrestler with at least 10 matches and a winning record unless they have beaten them in head-to-head*** Hope that helps. I'm no expert at all - but that's the info I found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
base Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 How many wrestlers are seeded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randalllynch Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Pairings and Seeding A. Sectional pairings and seeding will be made at 7:00 p.m. on the Monday preceding the sectional tournament at the center school. 1. Each participating school in that sectional may have only 1 representative voting. Positions of contestants from schools not represented will be drawn by lot. 2. Six contestants shall be seeded in each weight class. Coaches are required to bring their official team scorebook and all of their weigh‐in sheets. A coaches’ failure to have his official team scorebook and his weigh‐in sheets shall result in his school’s entries being unseeded unless a majority of the other coaches present wish to seed the offending school’s wrestlers. 3. If a school does not have an entry in a weight class, then a forfeit shall be entered for that school in that weight class. EXCEPTION – When a school enters two (2) or less wrestlers in the IHSAA tournament series, the vacant weight classes created by this school’s entry into the tournament shall NOT cause a forfeit in the vacant weight classes. 4. A copy of the Official Entry List from each school shall be in the hands of the tourney director at the time of the seeding meeting. 5. Each coach shall specify to the Tourney Director his entrants for each weight class prior to the seeding meeting. If no representative is present at the seeding meeting, the first contestant listed on the official entry list who is eligible in a particular weight class will be entered in that weight class. 6. Pairings at this meeting shall be by lot after the seeding assignments are made. These pairings shall be final and will not be redrawn. 7. Only qualified alternate/s may be substituted after the seeding meeting. A qualified alternate is defined as any wrestler who meets the following criteria: a. possesses six (6) qualified weigh‐ins throughout the regular season, b. has not been seeded nor placed by draw at the IHSAA sectional seeding meeting, Page 77 of 79 c. is legally entered in his weight class or the weight class immediately above his weight class and is then eligible in either weight class. 8. If it becomes necessary to replace a seeded wrestler after the conclusion of the seeding meeting, the following procedures shall be implemented: a. all seeded wrestlers below the vacated spot shall move up one seeded position. The alternate shall be placed at the #6 seeded position. b. if an alternate is not available to be placed at the 6th seeded position, the last unseeded wrestler drawn shall be placed in the 6th seeded position. Edited January 19, 2016 by randalllynch decbell1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualwrestlingfan Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Sounds like a computer system can fairly determine this criteria. I personally do not like previous tournament results as most are outdated and have little bearing to the current year. Plus the freshman factor. Have a computer seed and then coaches discuss the validity of the computer seeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 And then you will have coaches "forget" to put in a few losses. Great idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualwrestlingfan Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 And then you will have coaches "forget" to put in a few losses. Great idea! It's why they should have an independent person putting in stats as well as the coaches. Have 3rd party reps at duals and tournaments. Bruins2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 It's why they should have an independent person putting in stats as well as the coaches. Have 3rd party reps at duals and tournaments. Who's going to pay this independent person(s)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualwrestlingfan Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Who's going to pay this independent person(s)?Make the Ihsaa do it but then again, we can all laugh at the notion they even care. They'll probably make us stop seeding actually. They claim in other sports that random draw is the fairest way to determine a champion. Edited January 20, 2016 by casualwrestlingfan Wrestling Scholar and Bruins2013 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Brown Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) I am taking the Alpha Master to the meeting!!! It should be interesting night, it is my first time coaching at the Shelbyville Sectional. What are the facilities like?? Edited January 21, 2016 by Coach Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogoplata89 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I am taking the Alpha Master to the meeting!!! It should be interesting night, it is my first time coaching at the Shelbyville Sectional. What are the facilities like?? It's a good venue. More room for the wrestler camps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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