bandit1990 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 This used to be a very hot topic around this time in the season. Would like to still hear some results. I heard Reitz won at 120, but that is all I have heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU89 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) Mater Dei won 65-3. Luigs bumped up to 126 and beat Craig 8-0. Mater Dei's backup 120 lost 6-4. Edited January 15, 2016 by IU89 backtothemat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSpectator Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 Unfortunately, this match-up won't be close for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loscoz Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Was disappointed at the crowd size Mater Dei had half the gym filled and I'm guessing but it only looked as if Reitz had 75 fans there! Granted there were only a handful of matches that were really worth watching. I thought the Craig vs Luigs was one of the matches I thought would of been better Craig seemed to lack motivation after Luigs got the first takedown. Blake Jourdan stopped his opponent from throwing him and threw a headlock(which I hate and think it's a last chance move) I believe I heard the Reitz kid gasp and cry from the shock and awe of it. The 182 lb match was an ok match 195 and 220 were ok as well. Mater Dei in my opinion is lacking the fire they once had! They are still a good team with some outstanding wrestlers and some wrestlers that are good and will get better over time and hopefully they get some motivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogleg Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 locoz, how much of the lack of motivation comes from the score? Did Mater Dei expect it to be lopsided and not wrestle with their normal intensity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtothemat Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 They must have used all their motivation up at Team State! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guillotine Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 The score was 65-3. When you say motivation, did you want every MD weight class to pin their opponent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook and half Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Was disappointed at the crowd size Mater Dei had half the gym filled and I'm guessing but it only looked as if Reitz had 75 fans there! Granted there were only a handful of matches that were really worth watching. I thought the Craig vs Luigs was one of the matches I thought would of been better Craig seemed to lack motivation after Luigs got the first takedown. Blake Jourdan stopped his opponent from throwing him and threw a headlock(which I hate and think it's a last chance move) I believe I heard the Reitz kid gasp and cry from the shock and awe of it. The 182 lb match was an ok match 195 and 220 were ok as well. Mater Dei in my opinion is lacking the fire they once had! They are still a good team with some outstanding wrestlers and some wrestlers that are good and will get better over time and hopefully they get some motivation. I, too, was disappointed with reitz's crowd. This rivalry is over 60 years old and is traditionally one of the best in the state. I would think that panther fans would do a better job of supporting their team. I have watched Blake Jourdan for a number of years; attempt to throw him at your own peril. There were really only two good matches-- 170 and 120. On another day, the other kid could win. The other 12 weights had clear victors. I'm not sure about the motivation, reitz and mater dei kids put out a supreme effort for this meet. Look no further than Tucker's countenance after his win. I'm sure that young man will remember this night for many years. Mater dei beat reitz last year 70-0 with a state championship team dominated by seniors. Considering that this team is young and had three starters on the bench, a 65-point output seems like an acceptable performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Alan Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I hate seeing the Reitz program in the dumps like it's been the last few years. I understand how difficult it can be to maintain a consistently productive program, but Reitz has fallen much harder than I would've expected. Is their club program still operating? Their SIW club was fantastic when I was growing up, loaded with young talent, producing so many good wrestlers in the last 10-12 years. When the last wave of them went through(Moody, Vanhook, Kuhn boys, Johns boys, etc.), I just assumed their would be another group step in behind them. What gives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hook and half Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Btw- did anyone catch the defensive pin at 285? When is the last time you saw a big boy do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpt189 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I wish my program was down in the dumps like reitz. If having a bad couple years meant having winning dual records and being in the top half of the SIAC, sending several kids to regional, semi state, and having a few make it to state, then I'd be glad to be as bad as they have been. Sorry for the sarcasm, I'm just not sure how they are down in the dumps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Alan Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I wish my program was down in the dumps like reitz. If having a bad couple years meant having winning dual records and being in the top half of the SIAC, sending several kids to regional, semi state, and having a few make it to state, then I'd be glad to be as bad as they have been. Sorry for the sarcasm, I'm just not sure how they are down in the dumps You're right. I guess my remarks came off a bit brash. When you put it that way, yeah, they're doing just fine. My apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loscoz Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 If you look of years past the MD wrestler is expected to win most of the time just because of the name. They did win the other night. I know times have changed and with everything changing these young kids think that just doing enough to cross the threshold is good enough. I'm not saying all of the wrestlers at MD lack motivation because that is would be a lie but if you have been around the Mater Dei program as long as some of us you will see the difference in the level of intensity that has deminished over time. I know this is probably going to upset some MD fans but this is my opinion of it! I can honestly say that one of my favorite wrestlers of the last four years at MD was Alex Johnson because he wrestled from whistle to whistle and that did not matter if he was winning or losing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtothemat Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 If you look of years past the MD wrestler is expected to win most of the time just because of the name. They did win the other night. I know times have changed and with everything changing these young kids think that just doing enough to cross the threshold is good enough. I'm not saying all of the wrestlers at MD lack motivation because that is would be a lie but if you have been around the Mater Dei program as long as some of us you will see the difference in the level of intensity that has deminished over time. I know this is probably going to upset some MD fans but this is my opinion of it! I can honestly say that one of my favorite wrestlers of the last four years at MD was Alex Johnson because he wrestled from whistle to whistle and that did not matter if he was winning or losing! As a Castle parent, I disagree wholeheartedly that Mater Dei's intensity as diminished. Phhhht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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