His Father Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Merely an observation where I have seen completly legal holds. Otherwise the Refferee would have stopped them. The results were as stated no disrespect meant just an observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phscoach Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I was at a tournament a few weeks ago and the coach from Shelbyville was telling this story about this HWT from Madison that was really good and had gotten dq'd against them for an illegal slam... He couldn't think of his name for anything and was asking us who the kid was...... I then told him it was me.... It was only because you got so much taller since then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleB Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 It was only because you got so much taller since then... Weird... I was thinking it was my Irish chin-strap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeandBreighton Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Intentions have nothing to do with whether something is a slam or not. Glad a kid didnt mean it or the opponent did something different than you were expecting. Rules are clear, the offensive wrestler is responsible for bringing his opponent back to the mat safely, period, end of story. it rarely us called like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 It is all the officials descretion. will there be bad slam calls yes just as there are bad stalling calls, Its the officals jobs to keep kids safe and if a kid is slammed and he feels it was not a safe return he has to call the penelty. Here is the rule books take on slams from the 2012-2013 Points of Emphisis SLAMS Slams are extremely dangerous and every attempt must be made to remove them from wrestling. It is the responsibility of wrestlers, coaches and referees to avoid slams. Wrestlers must return opponents to the mat safely after a lift and must realize a slam may be called on wrestlers in the neutral, top or bottom position. Which wrestler?s knees hit the mat first is irrelevant in determining whether or not a slam has occurred. The key is whether or not a wrestler is returned to the mat unsafely due to the overuse of force. Coaches bear the responsibility of teaching their wrestlers to return opponents to the mat safely and instructing their wrestlers not to perform lifts for which they are not adequately skilled. They must never intentionally bring an opponent to the mat with excessive force. When possible, referees must attempt to prevent slams by reminding wrestlers of their responsibility to return opponents to the mat safely from any position. Referees shall stop the wrestling action to avoid an imminent slam whenever possible. Referees must call slams without delay. It is not acceptable to determine whether a wrestler is injured by a slam before making the call. Intentional attempts to injure a wrestler by slam shall be called flagrant misconduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2leftshoes Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 A guy I know a guy who got called for a slam at semi-state and was disqualified because his opponent could "no longer continue." Then the guy who couldn't continue wrestled the next round. What about a slam call in that situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 A guy I know a guy who got called for a slam at semi-state and was disqualified because his opponent could "no longer continue." Then the guy who couldn't continue wrestled the next round. What about a slam call in that situation? Its not about the call at that point but the integrity of the wrestler... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlittlejohn Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 A guy I know a guy who got called for a slam at semi-state and was disqualified because his opponent could "no longer continue." Then the guy who couldn't continue wrestled the next round. What about a slam call in that situation? It's called recovery! A wrestler may not have been able to recover from the effects of a slam within the 2-minute recovery time period but was able to recover during the 45+minutes between matches. Regardless a slam shall be called immediatley and it is up to the injured wrestler and his coach to determine if it is in his best interest to continue at the conclusion of recovery time during that match and continue to evaluate whether it is in the best interest of the wrestler to continue to compete in the event following that injury or the decision may rest with the designated appropriate health care professional if a potential concussion is involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2leftshoes Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I guess you are right I never really thought of that instance, but back in the people were boo-ed for such actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 do people realize that as competitors we find it funny when people boo us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe the Line Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 even when competitors take dives cuz they can't beat the kid that slammed them but they jump right up after they find out they just won the match!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 here comes the Me hate gather round everyone and hear how terrible i am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toe the Line Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 not an attack on u at all.......i think u make it interesting with ur honesty and heart felt opinions.....but don't like the kids/coaches taking the easy way out!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosgrove Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 easy way out lame if i was getting beat and got slammed id still continue i started the match and am there to wrestle now if my neck is broke then i dont think id be able to continue but fractured rib forsure or dazed yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrecoISU Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I watched a video the other day of a HWT picking up a single leg after the bottom wrestler stood up. He picked the leg up, the other wrestler tried to do a front flip under his legs and landed on his head, unconscious. The top man was called for a slam and lost the match. It was brutal to watch... The bottom wrestler did not flip gracefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebelman50 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Just wanna say something I wrestle hard every weak my senior year I was slammed and it hurt but I got up and won the match if u don't have the determination to take a slam get off the mat???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosgrove Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosgrove Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 good mentality rebelman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger.dad Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 dang......i'm surprised you didn't see some side line action on that one.....i've seen parents come out of the bleachers for alot less.....looked like an audition for the wwf......lol...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecomets Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 dang......i'm surprised you didn't see some side line action on that one.....i've seen parents come out of the bleachers for alot less.....looked like an audition for the wwf......lol...... YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger.dad Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 YOU you what?.....you would be one of those parents?......probably so...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimtown 138 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 you what?.....you would be one of those parents?......probably so...... I vote YES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I witnessed a slam at the Rensselaer Duals a couple of weeks ago. This happened at the 132 weight class and was between Rensselaer Central and River Forest. I was very disapointed to see a senior wrestler from River Forest slam the Rensselaer kid who's a freshman but was way over matched in the first place and was getting beat pretty badly when the River Forest kid decided on slamming him in the 3rd period. The thing that was most disappointing about this was how the coaches from River Forest reacted when this match had to be stopped because the Rensselaer kid had a concussion. These coaches threw a complete fit because the match was stopped and the Rensselaer kid won. Well this happened 2 weeks ago and for the River Forest coaching staff knowledge this kid is still out and not wrestling and most likely will be out for another 2 to 3 weeks if he even is released from the doctor because he is still suffering from headaches. All I would like to say is show some class and respect and with your young man being a senior he should understand what the possible outcome could be if he slams another wrestler, if not now he will. Good luck to all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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