indyt Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 I would have to say you throw J-Mac in there as well. 3 first period falls and gave up one point on an escape saturday morning. Pretty strong. Lots of great kids. Very fun tournament this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GO BIG TEN Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Has to be Reece or Goldman. Reece pinning the field, and it is not his fault they weren't as highly ranked, he just wrestled who they put in front of him. And Goldman for pulling off two upsets on the way when nobody was picking him to finish above 5th. (# 3 Berry of Merrillville, and # 2 Stevenson who beat # 1 Sliga.) Goldman finished above two national ranked wrestler top ten in the country. Reece was great but 215 was one of the weeker classes if not the weekest, this was not Reeces falt he is stud among pretty good wrestlers. but goldman came out and suprised everone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braves25 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 i would have to give to Reece. He dominated everyone and anyone in his way. he had a heck of a tournament! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
former130 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 i would have to give to Reece. He dominated everyone and anyone in his way. he had a heck of a tournament! But probably in the weakest weight class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piscis1956 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 He rode him for 2 mins.. is that offensive enough? cmon Mullins didnt do much either....... Yeah, neither wrestler was terribly aggressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanDog Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Yeah, neither wrestler was terribly aggressive. Both wrestlers are very talented this is for sure. Just maybe they were neutralized by the other is why it was the type of match which points are at a premium? I had the chance to see Mullins wrestle several times this season and he didn't just not try to do anything. Believe me if he could have scored he would have don it! Welch's defence made it impossible for him to score. Mullins is also a great rider and pinner and he couldn't keep him down. Hats off to both wrestlers! Great match! Welch did what he had to do to defeat a great wrestler! Good Luck at Purdue and to Mullins good luck next season it just might be your turn to stand at the top! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapDaBase Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Rankings don't mean squat, more than half the kids ranked hardly ever make it to state. You have to atleast make it to semi-state the previous year to even be considered in the rankings. Trey Reese was impressive but Goldman stood out way more in my opinion. Big deal about him weighing 197, that is what the majority of 215 pounders weigh anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RankingsGuy Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Rankings don't mean squat, more than half the kids ranked hardly ever make it to state. You have to atleast make it to semi-state the previous year to even be considered in the rankings. Trey Reese was impressive but Goldman stood out way more in my opinion. Big deal about him weighing 197, that is what the majority of 215 pounders weigh anyway. More than half the kids ranked hardly make it to state? I think you may like to go through and see just how inaccurate that statement is by clicking on the Rankings tab at the top.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grappleapple Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Rankings don't mean squat, more than half the kids ranked hardly ever make it to state. You have to atleast make it to semi-state the previous year to even be considered in the rankings. Trey Reese was impressive but Goldman stood out way more in my opinion. Big deal about him weighing 197, that is what the majority of 215 pounders weigh anyway. I'm sure this has probably been said somewhere...but here is my breakdown on how the rankings worked out. At 103 pounds Final four = No. 6 Fuqua, No. 2 Boosma, No. 1 Boston, No. 4 Micic. Champion ? No. 1 Boston 112 Final four = No. 1 Phillips, No. 2 Todd, No. 3 Petrov, No. 4 Brooks Champion ? No. 2 Todd 119 Final four = No. 1 Ayersman, No. 2 Campbell, No. 8 Moss, No. 9 Carroll Champion ? No. 1 Ayersman 125 Final Four = No. 1 McKinley, No. 2 Kieffer, No. 4 Somer, No. 8 Crume Champion ? No. 1 McKinley 130 Final Four = No. 2 Barroquillo, No. 3 Molloy, No. 6 Crume, No. 20 Hartman Champion ? No. 3 Molloy 135 Final Four = No. 1 Jackson, No. 2 Kieffer, No. 3 Raley, No. 4 Gregory Champion ? No. 3 Raley 140 Final Four = No. 1 Tsirtsis, No. 2 Montgomery, No. 5 Rattay, No. 15 Lannert Champion ? No. 1 Tsirtsis 145 Final Four = No. 1 Roach, No. 2 Heistand, No. 4 Weekly, No. 16 Whetstine Champion ? No. 1 Roach 152 Final Four = No. 1 Welch, No. 3 Mullins, No. 6 Lefever, No. 5 K. Johnson Champion ? No. 1 Welch 160 Final Four = No. 1 Welch, No. 2 Willis, No. 3 Sims, No. 4 Lefever Champion ? No. 1 Welch 171 Final Four = No. 1 Stein, No. 2 Bratcher, No. 3 Lynde, No. 6 Manning Champion ? No. 1 Stein 189 Final Four = No. 1 Sliga, No. 2 Stevenson, No. 4 Goldman, No. 6 Boots Champion ? No. 4 Goldman 215 Final Four ? No. 14 Cooper, No. 3 Kral, No. 1 Reese, No. 10 Seaman Champion ? No. 1 Reese 285 Final Four = No. 1 Meyer, No. 7 Harvey, No. 8 Forrest, No. 2 Howe Champion ? No. 7 Harvey Totals - every wrestler in all 14 weight classes that made the final four were ranked. Nine wrestlers ranked No. 1 won. I think the rankings were more accurate this year than perhaps ever before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapDaBase Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 okay sure they may have good majority accurate, all i am saying is that there are plently of very good wrestlers who qualify that are never actually ranked. Its not about who some guys think are the best, what it all comes down to is who ever has more heart, determination, and skill when you come face to face with an opponent down on the mat. People just tend to get caught up in the rankings alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tspray1 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Owen Dorris wasn't ranked ;D jab jab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Owen Dorris wasn't ranked ;D jab jab Owen Dorris awesome tourny I just saw from semi state on but he wrestled really well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfish Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 The rankings guy would have done really well if he would have given the Evansville semi-state more respect. He missed from the semi-state 130-M0lloy-3 135-Raley-3 189-Goldman-4 Lannert-15 Whetstine-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tspray1 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Im am just poking fun at a certain someone. I never do I told you so and I am bored so I am ... haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RankingsGuy Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 The rankings guy would have done really well if he would have given the Evansville semi-state more respect. He missed from the semi-state 130-M0lloy-3 135-Raley-3 189-Goldman-4 Lannert-15 Whetstine-16 While Molloy and Raley weren't ranked #1, I did pick both of them to win state titles in my Official State Picks thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Molloy was behind two other undefeated wrestlers. They all three could have been ranked #1. Raley had a loss on the season to Kieffer, its hard to justify him being ranked #1 behind a defending runner-up(Jackson) and someone that beat him. Goldman did not have the state experience the others ahead of him had. Pretty easy justification for those rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Raley had a loss on the season to Kieffer, its hard to justify him being ranked #1 behind a defending runner-up(Jackson) and someone that beat him. wasnt Raley a defending runner-up as well?? But, once Raley lost to Kieffer his argument dor #1 in rankings was hurt. All 3 are great wrestlers..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfish Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Rankings guy. I have to agree with you on the way all three were ranked and I am really impressed that you were able to rank and pick the 2 to win state. If you would have picked Goldman to win, I would have said you rigged the state tournament. Amazing job this year and the main reason I come on this site. Thanks for all the work that you do and look forward to next year. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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