maligned Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 103- Boomsma- $4 112- Alonzo Shepard- $3 119- Kody George- $2 125- Alex Gresimmer- $2 130- Braden Moreau- $2 135- Stephen Riker- $2 140-- Spencer Boyd- $2 145- Cameron Mattson- $2 152- Connor Mullins- $2 160- John Simms- $2 171- Drake Stein- $5 189- Aaron Stevenson- $4 215- David Knight- $2 285- Kaden Suter- $4 Total $38 zach's right. shepard's $4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Looking at the point scoring system, it is skewed to the top. First=24 pts while Eighth=3 pts. It would take eight 8th placers to equal one champ. This makes the Coaches Trophy almost a lottery. A dual meet team with a core of eight 8th placers would be extremely decent. The scoring system he is using is the same scoring system that is used in virtually every tournament that places 8 wrestlers in the nation. He has given the top two spots an extra two bonus points, figuring they would on average pick them up in one of their three or four wins. An eighth place wrestler at state scores exactly three points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlickRodz Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 zach's right. shepard's $4. Thanks I made the adjustment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teammills Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 [table] 103 Boomsma (1) $4 112 Todd (1) $4 119 Boston (4) $1 125 Kieffer (2) $3 130 Molloy (1) $4 135 Fuqua (3) $2 140 Wartman (2) $3 145 Helterbrand (3) $2 152 Mullins (3) $2 160 Sims (3) $2 171 Parrish (2) $3 189 Boots (3) $2 215 Kral (2) $3 285 Howe (2) $3 Total $38 [/table] [table][tr][td] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 The scoring system he is using is the same scoring system that is used in virtually every tournament that places 8 wrestlers in the nation. He has given the top two spots an extra two bonus points, figuring they would on average pick them up in one of their three or four wins. An eighth place wrestler at state scores exactly three points. Oddly enough, last year the champs earned only 27.5 bonus points from 56 wins while the runners-up earned 36 from 42 wins. Go figure. But you're right, the point awards for the game include an average expected bonus total for each position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_fleenor171 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Sommer only costs $2 so you actually have an extra $1.50 to spend Thanks fixed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachpierson Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 103- Boomsma- $4 112-Dominique Price- $3 119- Kody George- $2 125- Alex Gresimmer- $2 130- Braden Moreau- $2 135- Stephen Riker- $2 140-- Spencer Boyd- $2 145- Cameron Mattson- $2 152- Connor Mullins- $2 160- John Simms- $2 171- Drake Stein- $5 189- Aaron Stevenson- $4 215- David Knight- $2 285- Kaden Suter- $4 Total $38 Made adjustment for error lol price is actually only worth $2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galagore Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 103 - Boomsma $4 112 - Petrov $3 119 - Garcia $3 125 - Kieffer $3 130 - Wisler $3 135 - Fuqua $2 140 - Lannert $1 145 - Whetsstline $1 152 - Mullins $2 160 - Sims - $2 171 - Stein $5 189 - Boots $2 215 - Kral $3 285 - Harvey $4 Total = $38.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boot Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 103- Micic $3 112- Petrov $3 119- Campbell $4 125- Kieffer $3 130- Moreau $2 135- Fuqua $2 140- Wartman $3 145- Lunford $3 152- Mullins $2 160- Sims $2 171- Hankenson $3 189- Neff $4 215- Kral $3 HWT- Stevenson $1 Total- $38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 103- Micic $3 112- Petrov $3 119- Ayersman $4 125- Kieffer $3 130- Moreau $2 135- Fuqua $2 140- Wartman $3 145- Lunford $3 152- Mullins $2 160- Sims $2 171- Hankenson $3 189- Neff $4 215- Kral $3 HWT- Stevenson $1 Total- $38 Sorry, man, Ayersman has special pricing for being ranked #1 in the state. Look back at the original post for pricing on top-ranked guys. He's $5. You need to cut $1 somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Sobchak Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 103: Boomsma 4 112: Petrov 3 119: Carrol 4 125: Keifer 3 130: FF -0 135: FF-0 140: Tsirtsis 5.5 145: James - 4 152: Welch 5 160: Welch 4.5 171: Stein 5 189: FF-0 215: FF-0 285: Ff- 0 I am going to FF a few weight classes since this is not a dual meet format. I think this give me a chance to score somewhere around 190 points. Possibly 5 champs out of this group. It is my "old school" team. I might come up with a full team for a team B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwkwrestler12 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 103-Micic 3$ 112-Todd 4$ 119-McHugh 2$ 125-Kieffer 3$ 130-Wisler 3$ 135-Fuqua 2$ 140-Mavros 2$ 145-Goodnight 3$ 152-Mullins 2$ 160-Willis 3$ 171-Hankenson 3$ 189-Berry 4$ 215-Gallegos 2$ 285-Maggart 2$ Total 38$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galagore Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 103: Boomsma 4 112: Petrov 3 119: Carrol 4 125: Keifer 3 130: FF -0 135: FF-0 140: Tsirtsis 5.5 145: James - 4 152: Welch 5 160: Welch 4.5 171: Stein 5 189: FF-0 215: FF-0 285: Ff- 0 I am going to FF a few weight classes since this is not a dual meet format. I think this give me a chance to score somewhere around 190 points. Possibly 5 champs out of this group. It is my "old school" team. I might come up with a full team for a team B. I like your style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I like your style. I like your moves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galagore Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I like your moves Wondered how long it'd take for that post.... eleven minutes and fifteen seconds.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Sobchak Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I like your style too, you got the whole Hockey mask thing going. Is that Sioux City Saspirilla? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boot Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Sorry, man, Ayersman has special pricing for being ranked #1 in the state. Look back at the original post for pricing on top-ranked guys. He's $5. You need to cut $1 somewhere. Whoops, missed his name on the list. Correction made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 103: Boomsma 4 112: Petrov 3 119: Carrol 4 125: Keifer 3 130: FF -0 135: FF-0 140: Tsirtsis 5.5 145: James - 4 152: Welch 5 160: Welch 4.5 171: Stein 5 189: FF-0 215: FF-0 285: Ff- 0 I am going to FF a few weight classes since this is not a dual meet format. I think this give me a chance to score somewhere around 190 points. Possibly 5 champs out of this group. It is my "old school" team. I might come up with a full team for a team B. Man, sorry to poo-poo this entry--especially with all the nice banter--but I specifically made the rule that you had to take one person from each weight class with this exact scenario in mind. Of course Tsirtsis and nobody is better than any random #1 seed and any random #4 seed. This is the point of the game--you have to be creative and take a hit if you want a big gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galagore Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Man, sorry to poo-poo this entry--especially with all the nice banter--but I specifically made the rule that you had to take one person from each weight class with this exact scenario in mind. Of course Tsirtsis and nobody is better than any random #1 seed and any random #4 seed. This is the point of the game--you have to be creative and take a hit if you want a big gun. I thought this was good before, but now I see it is awesome. Well played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galagore Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Scanned through and didn't see this question posted or answered....sorry if I have overlooked it. How did you arrive at the $38.00? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Sobchak Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 It was a very complicated formula. It had to do with Class wrestling, not shaking hands, Bobby Cox and the amount of Fans Mater Dei will bring minus the amount of Fans Crown Point will bring times the complaints about the Merriville semistate divided by how many cool points Demoguy loses per post plus the cost of the Dude's rug. Do the math Dude, it comes out to $38. Am I Wrong!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgamehoss Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Very good Walter, but it was going to be $41.29, until he saw a post in the "Attendance" thread. In that post, a confessed life-long Merrilville SS attendee; admitted he had gone to the New Castle SS. I suppose that was proof enough that NC was the toughest SS this year. He factored that in, and divided everything by the percentage of coaches "dipping" in the corners, and it came out $38 on the nose. btw, If that is a show dog....why didn't I see it on tv, in the Toy Group, at the Westminster? ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 It was a very complicated formula. It had to do with Class wrestling, not shaking hands, Bobby Cox and the amount of Fans Mater Dei will bring minus the amount of Fans Crown Point will bring times the complaints about the Merriville semistate divided by how many cool points Demoguy loses per post plus the cost of the Dude's rug. Do the math Dude, it comes out to $38. Am I Wrong!?! You nailed it...except for the 'coaches in jeans' variable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 Scanned through and didn't see this question posted or answered....sorry if I have overlooked it. How did you arrive at the $38.00? The average value of any 14 guys is $36. I just added a bit to it, so people wouldn't have to scrounge for as many guys that will max out as 5th placers; but I left it low enough that it requires some strategy and research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 103 micic - 3 112 petrov - 3 119 Garcia - 3 125 sommer - 2 130 barroquillo - 4 135 fuqua - 2 140 wartman - 3 145 lunford - 3 152 Mullins - 2 160 sims - 2 171 hostetler - 2 189 berry - 4 215 gallegos - 2 285 vanwinle - 3 This is very cool and should make the state finals a little more interesting. I just hope I did my math correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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