wrestlinghog Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Does anyone know when brackets will come out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Seltzer Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Friday.. Memorial wrestles NR and Gosh today and tomorrow.. Info is due on Thursday.. It will be interesting to see where they put Corpe at.. He has only wrestled 152 once. Looking at a 4th or 5th seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlinghog Posted January 19, 2010 Author Share Posted January 19, 2010 What is used to seed wrestlers besides records? Corp should be seeded 1st, or is it because he only has a few matches at 152? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
140goshen92 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Possible Champs! 103- Jared Brooks / Warsaw 112- Austin Maynard / Goshen 119- Steven Ross / Concord 125- Kevin Kelly / Elkhart Memorial 130- Chase Anglemyer / Northwood 135- Bobby Marcuccilli / Wawasee 140- Ntende / Goshen 152- Zack Corpe / Elkhart Memorial 160- Francisco Garcia / Goshen 171- JB Singer / Goshen 189- Carson Sappington / Elkhart Memorial 215- Shane Hendrickson / Elkhart Memorial 275- Jacob Clark / Goshen Just my opinion of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratelooksat30 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 it is a point system. you get 2 pts for a NLC win in the weight class you are entering, and 1 pt for a win in another weight. The higher the pts, the higher the seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Seltzer Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Brooks Maynard Ross Kelly Bolgle Marcucelli/Matteson Manbu Lewandowski/Rios Corpe Garcia Singer Sappinton/Dillebeck Hendrickson Howe/Clark/Waterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 it is a point system. you get 2 pts for a NLC win in the weight class you are entering, and 1 pt for a win in another weight. The higher the pts, the higher the seed. What if they are tied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insanoflex Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 What if they are tied? I talked to Coach Read of Plymouth last night at our match and he didn't indicate what happens in the event of a points tie. The NLC doesn't even have a seeding meeting due to this system and one of the conference (I think he said it was Northwood's) ADs handles the bracketing. Coach Read did not seem to be a big fan of this system and pointed out times in the past (see Carr brothers Wawassee) when the top seed would lose first round because of this system as I guess the Carrs would get moved around in weight classes and thusly wouldn't have enough points to qualify for a seed and would draw the #1 guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 That is interesting, I bet it leads to some nice surprises the morning of the meet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Seltzer Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Yeah.. We had a state champ get seeded 4th or 5th a couple of years ago.. If there is a tie.. It goes to head to head.. or flip of the coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlinghog Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 How does Plymouth wrestle in the NIC one weekend and the NLC the next weekend are they in both conferences? Just saw that and thought it odd. Nevermind, just realized some teams were invites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busstogate Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I could be wrong, but the NIC tourney is mainly set up for all of the NIC teams to dual each other if they were not able to do so at other times of the year. They also allow non-NIC teams to get duals in here as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlinghog Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 According to the point system, I predict Troy Pickard will get the #1 seed at 152lb. Most all the other 152's have had poor records or wrestled different weights at least some matches or were injured part of the season. Top 152's Troy Pickard, Zack Corp ( only two losses? only 3 matches at 152, most deserving of #1), and Chris Hogendobler ( 13-2, won the Central Turkey Dual and the Charger invite, wrestled once at 160, and has been injured half the season. Losses were to Jimmy LaRowe, and a close one to Troy Pickard in which Chris dominated most of the match). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Seltzer Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Nothing to do with wins outside the NLC.. Corpe will have 10pts.. Provided he wins tonight.. 3 matches at 152.. 4 at other weights.. Its probably going to be Goshen #1, Concord #2, Corpe #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking174 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 * Ranked in the State 103: Brooks - Soon to be state placer * 112: Maynard - Soon to be semi-state qualifier 119: Ross - Placed 8th already at State, Will place this year at state * 125: Rhymer - could be a state qualifier this year 130: Kelly - Soon to be semi-state qualifier 135: Marcucelli - Will be a state placer this year * 140: Manbu - Could place at state this year * 145: Lewandowski - State qualifier, maybe better 152: Corpe - Placed 5th at State already, Will be a placer this year * 160: Garcia - will be a Semi-State qualifier 171: Hostetler - Will qualify for State this year 189: Dillenbeck - Will qualify for State this year * 215: Hendrickson - Semi-state qualifier this year HWT: Clark - Will qualify for State this year * 7 ranked wrestlers, 2 State placers, Goshen will win the NLC, Memorial will be the Runner-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlinghog Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 Nothing to do with wins outside the NLC.. Corpe will have 10pts.. Provided he wins tonight.. 3 matches at 152.. 4 at other weights.. Its probably going to be Goshen #1, Concord #2, Corpe #3. I think Corp will be higher than Chris Hogendobler because of Chris's NLC record; Wawasee(win), Memorial(win), Northridge(win 152), Northridge(win 160), Warsaw(injured did not wrestle), Plymouth(injured did not wrestle), Northwood(injured did not wrestle), Goshen(lost 7-5). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Seltzer Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 he didn't wrestle against memorial.. I have him at 5pts.. Probably a 5th or 6th seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrestlinghog Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 he didn't wrestle against memorial.. I have him at 5pts.. Probably a 5th or 6th seed. The Charger invite against Memorial doesn't count? That means the Northridge 152 doesn't count because it was at the Charger invite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I talked to Coach Read of Plymouth last night at our match and he didn't indicate what happens in the event of a points tie. The NLC doesn't even have a seeding meeting due to this system and one of the conference (I think he said it was Northwood's) ADs handles the bracketing. Coach Read did not seem to be a big fan of this system and pointed out times in the past (see Carr brothers Wawassee) when the top seed would lose first round because of this system as I guess the Carrs would get moved around in weight classes and thusly wouldn't have enough points to qualify for a seed and would draw the #1 guy. I was a senior and Jason was a sophomore the year they moved from Warsaw to Wawasee. I dropped from 140 to 135 mid-season and he moved teams and had split results. Both of us ended up being unseeded and randomly drawn in since we didn't have enough matches at one weight with one team--even though both of us were undefeated in conference for the season. There weren't even enough qualified entrants to have a 4th seed. We ended up on the mat facing each other at 9:30 in the morning and neither of us faced a close match the rest of the day, finishing 1st and 3rd. The system could use a tweak...considering that was almost 15 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachW33 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Does it actually matter what seed Corpe gets? Who is going to challenge him let alone beat him? He wins 152 no matter the seed, whether its 1st or 8th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth34 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Does it actually matter what seed Corpe gets? Who is going to challenge him let alone beat him? He wins 152 no matter the seed, whether its 1st or 8th. It doesn't matter for Corpe, but it should matter for the person he draws in the first round. For example, if he got seeded 8th (which isn't going to happen), would it be fair for the second best wrestler in the weight class (the #1 seed) to draw him in the first round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gancep Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 103-Jared Brooks-warsaw 112- Austin Maynard-goshen 119-Steven Ross-concord 125-Fulvio DeSantiago-concord 130-Chase Anglemeyer-northwood 135- Cam Matteson-memorial 140-Bobby Marcucelli-wawasee 152- Zach Corpe-memorial 160- Fransisco Garica-goshen 171- JB Singer-goshen 189- Sappington-memorial 215- Shane Hendrickson-memorial hwt- Jacob Clark-goshen sounds pretty acurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimtown 138 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 103-Jared Brooks-warsaw 112- Austin Maynard-goshen 119-Steven Ross-concord 125-Fulvio DeSantiago-concord 130-Chase Anglemeyer-northwood 135- Cam Matteson-memorial 140-Bobby Marcucelli-wawasee 152- Zach Corpe-memorial 160- Fransisco Garica-goshen 171- JB Singer-goshen 189- Sappington-memorial 215- Shane Hendrickson-memorial hwt- Jacob Clark-goshen sounds pretty acurate That looks right. 140 could be a good final... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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