Coach Clev Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I know that it has been discussed on what is the premier semi-state in Indiana wrestling. I go back and forth on this topic. Some semi-states are stronger than others, but I do not think that one is clearly more dominate than the other. I was looking at the rankings last night, and I realized the 189lb weight class at New Castle. You want to talk about a tough road look at these guys. #2 Nick Hodges Southmont #5 Andy Dalton East Central # 8 Michael Johnson-Jones Warren Central #11 Chaz Brock Crawfordsville #12 Patrick Lux Fishers #14 Daniel Sandberg Lawrence Central #16 Zach Garrity Hamilton Heights Depending on the draw at state, I am pretty sure that all four of the qualifiers out of this semi-state will be on the podium. I challenge someone to find a tougher weight class at any semi-state. Good luck!! ;D ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive2246 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Are you serious?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pm1981 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Maybe 103 at New Castle #1 Campbell NC #2 Phillips UC #5 McKinley #8 Price Tech #10 Harvey CA #12 Todd PH Not a bad weight classl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadet130 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Maybe 103 at New Castle #1 Campbell NC #2 Phillips UC #5 McKinley #8 Price Tech #10 Harvey CA #12 Todd PH Not a bad weight classl I second that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Clev Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 After thinking about it for a minute, I have come to this conclusion. I would say that New Castle and Merrillville semi-states are the same. If you match up the two champs from each semi-state in last years results in a dual meet this would be the result: Brandon Nelson vs. Anthony Hawkins Nelson dec 3-0 Brandon Wright vs.Justin Brooks Wright dec 6-0 Chase' Quiroga vs. Donovan Alderman Cash dec 9-0 Brian Vest vs. Josh Harper Harper dec 9-3 Will Mascaro vs. Tommy Churchard Churchard dec 9-6 Calvin Sullivan vs. Eric Galka Galka dec 9-9 Chris Mascaro vs. Steven Sandefer Sandefer dec 9-12 Gavin McGinley vs. Brennan Cosgrove Cosgrove dec 9-15 Kyle Ulrey vs. Kyle Long Ulrey maj dec 13-15 Mike Duckworth vs. Andrew Howe Howe maj dec 13-19 Jacob Blackwell vs. Brandon James Blackwell dec 16-19 Nick Hodges vs. Jake Salas Hodges dec 19-19 Zach Hahn vs. George Malone Malone dec 19-22 Chico Adams vs. Randy Morin Chico dec 22-22 The match would have to go to criteria (probably first points scored). Even if you look a bit deeper, New Castle had 29 place winners and Merrillville had 35. A fairly close number could be closer depending on the draws Friday night. You go a little deeper, New Castle had 4 state champs and Merrillville had 5. Finally as deep as you can go New Castle had 12 finishers in the top 3 while Merrillville 14. These numbers are very close. That is why I have come to the conclusion that both semi-states are pretty much the same. I know that there are some changes in what has happened, for example Hawkins has a win this year over Nelson. However, I have Nelson winning in the dual meet score. The reason for this is that is what happened at state last year. In most cases the two wrestlers actually had a match at state last year and I used that for the dual results. I also used the state meet because that is when young men wrestle at the highest level. I would like to hear what you have to say.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITE ANGEL Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 125 at Merrillville Semi State looks pretty tough.. #2 Tsirtsis (CP) #3 Napules (Mville) #4 Thornton (Chesterton) #8 Penn (Lafayette Harrison) #12 Brady (Lowell) #15 Acuna (Portage) The first 3 mentioned all have a good shot to place top 4 at conseco with Ezra Penn possibly getting himself a medal too. There's a possibility here for some interesting ticket round match-ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Clev Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 Maybe 103 at New Castle #1 Campbell NC #2 Phillips UC #5 McKinley #8 Price Tech #10 Harvey CA #12 Todd PH Not a bad weight classl This weight is also very tough. There is two reasons why I noticed 189 more so than the 103 class. 1) I have seen all of the 189's I listed wrestle and they all looked very tough. Along the same note I have only seen 3 of the 103's wrestle. 2) I have a 189 pounder and I tend to notice what he has to wrestle more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorchedChair Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Has there been any recent occasions where the top 4 in a weight class at Conseco have all come from the same semi-state location? I remember last year at 130 the top 3 all came from Merrillville...1. Churchard 2. Roach 3. Young... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegionRoyalty Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I can think of 2 instances right off of the top of my head where 3 guys from the Merrillville Semi-State made the semi-finals. In 2000 at 125 Alex Ramos from Hobart was the champ, Robert Maldonado from East Chicago Central was the runner-up, and Jeff Nyikos from Penn was 4th... and if it weren't for a close loss in the quarters, Rene Hernandez from Hammond Bishop Noll would have been in the semi's as well. In 2006 also at 125, Eric McGill from Munster was the champ, Adam Walters from Portage was the runner-up, and Jeremy Burnside from South Bend Clay was 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegionRoyalty Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 In 2001 at 119 from the Merrillville Semi State, Alex Tsirtsis from Griffith was the champ, Hector Mendez from East Chicago Central was the runner-up, and Manny Rodriguez from Hobart was 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynx 8 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 I would like to try this one 189 Evansville semi state #6 Andrew Leach Avon #7 Ethan cook Providence #9 Aaron Stevenson Indian creek #10 Todd Hacker Mooresville Previously Ranked Tyler Tatgenorst Jeffersonville Patrick Price North Posey Tanner McGowan Lincoln Vincennes Honorable Mention Darren Eads Bloomington south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justadadnow Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 NC 112 is gonna be a tough one also #2 Nelsen #3 Mullins #5 Kieffer #10 Stewart #12 Royteck add in Gadient from Noblesville if I'm not mistaken, Crawfordsville's wrestler's only loss was to Mullins at Bronco duals Royteck and Mullins will meet this weekend at Cathedral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Clev Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 2002 275lb Brent Surface Michigan City 2nd Mike Pinter Penn 3rd Jon Sandberg North White 4th 2003 275lb Brent Surface Michigan City 1st Matt Overman Mishawaka 3rd John Sandberg North White 4th Merrillville dominated the 275lb class for two years. Not to mention Kasten and Larimore in the following years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0341 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 New Castle 103, 112 Merrillville 125 Ft. Wayne 112 Evansville 189 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlock37 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 New Castle 103, 112 Merrillville 125 Ft. Wayne 112 Evansville 189 I would add Merrillvilles 119 class as a tough one and Ft.Waynes 130 class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCatWrestler2008 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Merrillville 103 is pretty stacked: #3 Kyle Ayersman(Lake Central) #7 Zach Stevens(Merrillville) #9 Aurelio Medina(Munster) #11 Cameron Halsted(Crown Point) #13 Jarred Brooks(Warsaw) #15 Paul Petrov(Hanover Central) 140: #1 Steven Sandefer(Mishawaka) #3 Alex Surma(Munster) #8 Trace Hall(SB Riley) #12 Darrius Richmond(Merrillville) #13 Josh Flamme(Crown Point) #15 Garrett Payne(Michigan City) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marines2 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Has there been any recent occasions where the top 4 in a weight class at Conseco have all come from the same semi-state location? I remember last year at 130 the top 3 all came from Merrillville...1. Churchard 2. Roach 3. Young... In 2000 at 119 from the Evansville SS Wiley Craft, Roncalli-2nd, Dustin Nosko,EMD-3rd,Matt Howe, Greenwood-4th, Chris Bailey, Vincennes-5th. Bailey was defeated in the quaters by eventual State champ Bobby Howard. Not to bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elm Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 there are alot of tough weight classes this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinedad Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 2006 state finals at 103 from the Newcastle Semi-state 1st Camden Eppert 2nd Brandon Wright 4th Brandon Nelsen 7th Jacob Tonte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intwrest Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 New Castle 160 Todd #3 Farrell #5 Durphey #6 Bill #9 Willis #10 Hines #13 Hudgins #16 Gonna have to work real hard to get out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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