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I believe he will also see Crabtree of Muncie South who is ranked as well at Jeffersonville...

Yea, when and where????

WOW!!!!! Now that was well said Chad!!!!!!

Well put Charger, this is the same school that was investigated last year for some of the same reasons (and previous years from what I have heard). Once you build a reputation it should be no surprise that these situations are looked at a little more closely by the authorities (IHSAA). If it looks like a fish, smells like a fish and flops around like a fish....It probalby is a fish!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought this was an add from the Yorktown area but then quickly realized that they won't advertise until after Christmas.... ;D ;D

It will be under only if he is 100%, no disrepect, just sayin...... ;D

Fromcurrentwreslter: Funny that this thread about good and exciting wrestling (and questionable journalism) was turned into a move-in debate by currentwrestler who then says it is childish....... If you think it is childish why have you posted 5 times on this subject in this topic???????

I am not hating on anyone. I was just stating a fact. It is well known that anyone is beatable on any given day. But it just seems to me that if Bradley did TF him and I do not know if that happened for sure, I would think that Clark had better come to wrestle....It would be him that has to elevate his game more so than the other way.

If Jeff Clark doesn't come to wrestle, one of the most dangerous wreslters in the state will be going home early!!!!! Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Bradley TF Clark a few weeks ago at Concordia???????

Oh yea, my bad......girls hoops RULES!!!!! Due to girls sectional??? At the same location or schools having both wrestling and girls bb playing the same night?

A Monday make-up date would be about as dumb as it comes. Cudos to Shelbyville for doing the smart thing and going next Wed. vs. Monday. I hope someone comes to their senses. No ONE wrestling matches on Monday for obvious reasons. Why wrestle the MOST important dual meet of the year (to date) on a Monday?

This storm is affecting MOST of Indiana (nothing but ICE and SLEET here in the Indy area), with most schools closed for Wed. and more than likely Thursday why don't the IHSAA just re-schedule ALL team regionals for next Wed.?

I struggle with the IHSAA's role and some people saying nothing wrong or illegal happened. I believe it is clear that students CANNOT move for athletic reasons alone. If the school a student leaves from signs off on it, that makes it legal? If the school decides to fight it, it becomes illegal? I have a hard time with this. How was the Jay County kid's transfer illegal when he moved before the school year? Because Jay County fought it....That makes it illegal? If they had signed off on it, it becomes legal? I would bet that if the Jay County kid moved to Evansville the shcool would not have fought it, but since he moved to a school that was close and would be wrestling against him in the same regional it becomes an issue. In the Franklin case the sutdent moves to a school that is in a different Semi State, which I would guess the school figures it is easier to sign off than to fight it. If he moved to a school in the same sectional you might see a different stance from Franklin. This is where I struggle with what is legal and illegal. The rule is there to create fair competition for all. So how does the school that the student is leaving from get to decide the legality of it? In this case I think Carroll might be the big loser as this questionable transfer could be the difference in them making a team state appearance this year. Really? Really? Maximize academic potential for less than 1 semester of his high school career? Come on, you have to come up with a realistic argument.

brian103 - well said. One thing Yorktown's wrestling program will have to live with is this quote from Thomas Paine, one of the Founding Fathers of our Great Country: Character is much easier kept than recovered. ~Thomas Paine The sad thing about this whole thing is that it seems like this program has really tanked in terms of respect, integrity and character over the last few years.

Can you define "...close..." ?

Don't forget about consolidating the Amish schools...... that would make them larger Ben Davis size. haha.

Does anyone know what weight he plans on wreslting come tournament time? I see Y2 does not has an * by his name at 135.... the kid impressed me last year. thank you.

Correct me if I am wrong but here is what the IHSAA website says about last year at state: Rd 1 Connor over Son 7-1 Rd 2 Connor over Melliff 2-1 (QTR Finals) Rd 3 Tsirtsis over Connor 8-0 (Semis) Cons. Connor over schrader 8-1

Looking at these rankings, it looks like the Bellmont Super Dual will be the toughest yet with 6 of the top ten teams: #2 Perry Meridian #4 Castle #5 Mishawaka #7 Penn #8 Bloomington South #10 Bellmont

While I think the IHSAA is a JOKE, I do believe they need to re-establish themselves to regain control and authority over student eligibility and transfers. I can see not only our sport but other spinning out of control. Very soon it will be like colleges, the best teams will be the ones that can recruit the best. I thought high school was supposed to be about communities building their own programs competing against other communities. If the majority of Indiana Coaches don't like it, I would like to see the coaches association and their president do the right thing, step up and speak out against the ever increasing transfers and support the IHSAA on this issue. Students, stay home and compete with your friends. I was talking to one veteran coach Saturday at Folkstyle state (who has 20+ years of coaching in Indiana) and he said the current situation is driving him out of the sport very quickly. He has no interest in recruiting to compete but says he feels that is what our sport is coming to. He had no desire to be a college coach and hit the recruiting trail. He asked why can't kids stay where they are supposed to and let the coaches coach the kids in their community? Maybe I don't get it but seeing kids transfer their junior / senior year should not be allowed unless true hardship is proven (job transfer, parents divorce, etc....) but to allow these kids to transfer during high school just to compete in sports is crazy.... at least to me.

This thread has spun into a class debate, therefore I will add my personal OPINION: To Class or not to Class..... I have to ask my self some of these questions: Will class wreslting make any single individual better? NO! I do not see how classing Indiana Wrestling will make any individual better. Nothing will change, their coahes, practices, wrestling partners, etc... Indiana WILL generate more state champions, but how will that help Indiana as a state or the individuals on the national level? IT WON'T HELP. Take a look at any weight class and lets say we have 3 - champs, instead of the the current 1st, 2nd, and 3rd placers. The same 3 kids will go and wrestle at Fargo and will not fair any differently, therefore no change in the national rankings, recruiting or scholarship offers. Take a look at arguably the 3 BEST kids wrestling in college from Indiana: Angel Escobedo (Griffith), Reece Humphrey (Lawrence North) and Anrew Howe (Hanover Central). Kind of ironic that we have a small school represented in Howe, a large school represented in Humphrey and a medium school represented in Escobedo. Please, please explain to me how much better each of these kids could have, would have and should have been if they wrestled in a class system....... I also find it ironic that all three are NOT from large schools.... Answer: They would not have been any better. Wrestling is an individual sport where the individual makes themselves better. With this being said, I am not against a class team tournament...but I am not convinced that a class individual tournament will make anyone in Indiana better. Maybe, just maybe some of us need to accept the fact that Indiana is not a national power in wrestling and class in NOT the reason. We have 5 classes in Football and Indiana is NOT a national power (like Texas, Florida, Pennsylvania, etc....). This is NOT an argument for statics, but an argument for COLD HARD FACTS........ LOL.....

LOL. Thank you for the insight, I guess I will not have to go to team state next year since I already know who will win.

Heck, who wouldn't want them moving to their school district. Not only would I say thank you but I might even take them out for dinner...... Bitter? NO. Jealous, absolutely.

It will be interesting to see the attendance without those two teams. They are by far the two teams that bring the most fans. Hopefully other teams will supporters will step up and bring a good contingent and keep that tournament exciting. Good luck to all teams.

It must be true, one of the great role models of our time made this quote: "If you ain't first, your last" Reese Bobby's inspirational speach to a bunch of elementary kids......haha