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They didn't have 13 finalists. They had one 1st, four 2nd, eight 3rd, and one 4th

Jasper and southridge were the only two teams in that sectional to have full teams. I believe 4 of the other 7 teams had less than 8 wrestlers in their lineups. If you want to look at a balanced team, look at the Washington Hatchets from that sectional- 5 wrestlers on the team, 3 sectional champs, one 2nd, and one 3rd. I've gotta give some love to Coaches McPherson and Cissell and my old team But in all serious, you're right. Jasper doesn't have any great kids this year, but they are balanced

No, Owens is eliminated

I would say southridge -and castle will advance all their kids from their respective sectionals

How's Boots not the favorite at 220?

I heard today unranked (state or semistate) jake Wilson of washington pinned #16 Overton of greenwood at 113 today at columbus east

I believe Edgewood and mooresville come to evansville memorial as well. Not sure on the rest

Sisk from pike central i believe is 26-2 this year with losses to Sulawske from memorial and Union county. He should see Halbig from Princeton this weekend Guerrier has one other loss this year, to McKinley of Tecumseh, who he beat back the following weekend

Memorial may have dropped Out of the Classic because of their invite to Team State. They host two tourneys so they couldn't give those up, not sure what they else they would have gave up to go to Team State

Seems to work for them. Teams still go to the tourney, fans come to watch, they make their money. They don't think its broke, no need to fix it I suppose

Pike central's wrestler was spelled Kendle, no relation Kendall

Navy, you have princeton wrestlers listed. Did they drop the Al Smith to come to the Classic?

saw the edit of the post. Thanks for clarifying that

In the results of the Jeffersonville vs Mater dei match, it shows Joe Lee losing at 152. Is this correct, and if it is how come no one is talking about it?

When I coached at Washington, we had a streak of 15 consecutive dual wins in 2011-12, a season we finished 28-7. I know that is not impressive in any way, but in 2010-11 we broke the school record for dual wins in a season going 25-11. The previous record for dual wins in a season.....15 wins.

They may have meant Bellmont

Actually he is second in the win percentage

O'Neil from Pike Central is a senior Mills from Gibson Southern is a sophmore

Wood memorial duals Wood memorial Pike central North knox Evansville Bosse Indianapolis Washington

"I don't like guys touching my junk"- A quote from a kid who was the center on the football team....in an offense where the quarterback took all snaps under center "I've got to get a job to help support my family"- Quote from a kid who a week later was fired from his job because he never went to work. Also noted his parents were business owners, two business to be exact "Football coach says if I lift all winter and spring, I'll be a starter next season"- quote from a kid who never went to lifting and didn't even play football the next season "My parents don't want me to cut weight, they say it's unhealthy"- quote from a kid who was over 350 pounds Side note, his parents, who encouraged him to wrestle because of the weight loss benefits, later told me their child said I said he was too big and wouldn't do any good. That turned out to be a fun mess Those were some of the good ones Ive heard

That's what I was saying. At the time, big deal. Now....not so much

I played football and wrestled against Goldsberry in high school. My senior year when we (pike central) played them (heritage hills) two things happened that night I kind of considered were the personal highlights of my football career- 1. I had a solo tackle on Goldsberry for a gain of 0 yards. He was almost untouchable that year so to me that was a big deal. 2. Later in that game, I had a sack on Jay Cutler. At the time that was also a big deal, but now a days if you get paid millions of dollars you can just sack him anytime you want

You forgot Matt Powless from Memorial and Thad Oldham from Castle

If it wasn't for 2 wrestlers ranked #1 in the country, he would be a 3 time undefeated state champ. Id say a real good legacy

I have no dog in this discussion since I have no kids going to nationals or a team at Disney but I want to give my thoughts, and will take any criticism that goes with them. How are these kids not getting better by going to Disney or making the state better for it? It's great we are taking kids to these national freestyle and Greco tourneys to represent our state, but I'm still not sure what the issue is for these coaches taking kids to Disney or other folk style tourneys. I'm sure it's an amazing experience to be a coach on a freestyle or Greco and getting to coach the best kids in the state. Everyone would love to coach 14 state champions from 14 different schools, and have a feeling of pride knowing you are moving Indiana into possible national prominence. But for most coaches, like myself....who should we cater to? For me, it's the kids I coach at the school that pays me to be their coach. I think that if I were able to take my team to an event like Disney or Virginia Beach, or whatever...I would. Why? Because I want to build the team bond with these boys, get us experience and get us better together. Last year I took a group of kids from around the state to a tournament in Texas, and I enjoyed it greatly and made many friendships and connections with several of the kids. If I were to be honest I would have enjoyed it more if it were my high school team I took to Texas because these are the kids I promise to try to make them the best wrestlers they can be. Several factors, however, prevent me from taking my full team to those events, such as finances, availability, etc, but that's a different for a different time. I enjoy watching freestyle and Greco. It's flashy and fun to see the throws and rolls. And to learn these styles are great for our state. However, there is a push towards wrestling folkstyle. I believe (and this is me saying this, I do not speak for everyone) there are two big reasons why folkstyle is pushed or done more. 1.) from the end of December, to the end January, every kid in the state who is on their high school teams can participate, provided they are not injured or out for disciplinary reasons. The other reason I think... 2.) for the most part, high school wrestling season is free. Who pays the entry fee to each tourney during the season....your school's AD. Who more than likely pays for the equipment that each wrestler wear......more often than not, the AD. And if you are fortunate enough to qualify to the state tourney, more than likely the school will provide your hotel stay and possibly pay for a meal while you are there. To compete or get better in the other styles, you pay for everything. You pay for a wrestling card, your singlets, your gas to every tourney, your hotels, your entry fees, your fees to go to an academy or wrestling club to train, and if you are able to be a state champ or high placer to qualify for these national events, hundreds if not thousands of dollars to compete for a few days on a team of wrestlers and coaches who may see a couple times a year. I'm sure if I owned a wrestling club or wrestling academy my opinion would change on this subject, because it's my professional obligation to coach the best, or at least the ones who can afford it. Now to play devil's advocate for a minute, I suppose the reward for the years of paying thousands of dollars for the training and qualifying for national tourneys is that if you are lucky, you might get your college payed for. And if you do really well and be an all American or even national champ, you might have a successful freestyle/Greco career. And then....if all goes well, you could possibly be qualify for the Olympics. How many people in the history of USA wrestling have been in the Olympics? A handful of people every four years. So that's maybe 1 percent of 1 percent of all the kids that wrestle in the US. I know this is a bunch of nonsense rambling and I'm certain I'm way off base. But I think instead of saying raise your expectations and get better, perhaps we can be thankful for these coaches who dedicated a week in Orlando or Virginia beach, or texas, or wherever they go. They are raising expectations and are getting their kids better, just not the way you may think it has to be done. It almost becomes like a political debate or religious debate. My thing is better than yours, or my beliefs are the only thing that matters. I say, promote yourself, be encouraging and do what you think is necessary for your kids to be successful and what you feel grows your team and grows out state. I think it's pretty great growth to see several indiana team finish in the top half of a national tourney, as well as the hope we will have all Americans in freestyle and Greco. To get better, we just need to wrestle. Doesn't matter what style, we just need to wrestle.