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Looks like there was a 4th?

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I got a vision that the hotdog looked like Akroyd’s character—the judge’s—skin tone in the movie.  Wicked vivid imagery.   
 

16 minutes ago, Y2CJ41 said:

Why make our wrestling softer and have wrestle-backs? Should we give kids a second chance after they lose? Life's tough, when I lose $25k on poor investments, I don't get a redo and get that money back.

I can see an argument where the absence of wrestle-backs add a brutal dose of reality in that sometimes life seems like the a spin of the roulette wheel.  Coming up short in that type of scenario—like a ticket rounder who’s actually a “top four in the state” wrestler—that type of experience could likely teach good lessons.  (Not sure if you’re being sarcastic, I haven’t read through a lot of these class wrestling threads and don’t know what your position on it is). 

But honestly, would I really want that experience for my kid?  A lot of stuff will teach good lessons that I’d rather them not go through. 

The main reason for my position on wrestle-backs is I think it would add integrity to the tournament to truly find out who the best is. 
 

My opinion is my own and based on what I think is best for my kids.  I respect everyone else’s opinion as well, and can see the small school perspective.  This is just my .02

7 minutes ago, HeadLocksWinChampionships said:

I think the entire tournament should be single elimination. Sectional champs wrestle at Regionals, the winner goes to Semi State, the winner of Semi State goes to State, and the winner is the champ... SOLVED IT! We could probable do this in 3 weekends. 

With all I said, I would prefer single-class AND wrestle-backs if it could be made to work.  So maybe “perfect” wasn’t the right word to use.  

14 hours ago, Beamaker said:

This! All of this is true and accurate..and there’s more factors too. Many have been mentioned already.

 

i have been following this thread and enjoying the discussion.

Here comes the purely anecdotal part…worth nothing I know, but just wanted to share.

 

Background: I attended Hobart in the late 80’s and had the good fortune to be a part of 2 State championship teams. I know first hand the sacrifices and dedication it takes to be part of something successful at a larger school. (Only 5 classes back then).

 

I have 6 sons, all wrestlers for a 1A school listed in Y2s list, out here in no man’s land. Wrestling was always the top focus for all my boys, despite participating in football, CC, track, and baseball. Their high school does not have a strong wrestling culture or history. We were blessed to have a coach who was working his azz off to build one, and had built up numbers and some pride, but that somewhat evaporated when he left.

I sent the boys to some camps at Purdue, or even out in Ohio. My boys were very well respected in our area and experienced success at Sectionals and Regionals; however, upon multiple births to EC SS, they were all soundly sent packing…every time.

My boys harbor no sour feelings about any of these things and take great pride in their wrestling accomplishments…so, I have posted all this to relay:

 

I posed this very question to my boys (ages 29-19) and all but one  responded with a resounding NO to class wrestling in IN.  For them, one of the best parts about wrestling was finding out just who the absolute best is, even when they know it’s not them. One of my sons, who was a 3x ECSS qualifier, said it like this, “Yea, maybe I coulda made a deep run in a 1A state tourney, but I would have much rather went out on my shield at ECSS each time, knowing I was seeing the best in our part of the state.”

 

It’s  easier to experience success at a small school wrestling, presuming you work hard and do the grind, than experiencing success as part of a team at a small school.  Reasons like commitment from fellow team mates, injuries, harvest, etc etc all factor in for small rural schools that require 5, 9, or 11 athletes.  Now the success a kid experiences may not culminate in them landing on the podium at state, but it doesn’t negate the success leading up to the day they exit the tournament. Wrestling, ultimately is about preparing for life. The IN tournament is imperfect and downright mean sometimes. Just like life can be. I put my boys into wrestling shortly after their mom passed from cancer. My oldest was 12 at the time. Wrestling helped  them through the grief and prepare them to have the tools to deal with adversity, challenges and also develop character, humility, perseverance, integrity, discipline and determination.   112 athletes hit the podiums each year in IN, which means there are a host of athletes who do not, but are the beneficiaries of tremendous gifts such as motivation, fortitude, humility, perspective, and reality. None of those are bad things.

 

All anecdotal, and worth exactly what you paid for it!

I second this.  And kudos to you for hanging in there for your kids the way you did.
 

I didn’t wrestle as much as my sons have, but I had a brutal upbringing. The little wrestling I did helped teach me I could persevere and rise above in the face of hardship and adversity.  
 

My sons have a much more stable and comfortable upbringing, but I introduced them all to wrestling because I wanted them to learn what it has to teach.  
 

In that theme, I think the IN state tournament in its current form is perfect.  Especially in an ever-softening world. 

One on our team that gets mispronounced often:  Hosia Smith is pronounced just like Jose…. or Ho-say.

There were something like 53 wrestlers announced in opening ceremony.  Landon Childers (5th) from Delta and Kyle Howard (3rd) from Noblesville are the placers I know of.

There may be a way to sort by state easily in Flo, but I haven’t figured it out. 

Fighting Irish Wrestling Club at Cathedral High School is a good place for him to start.  Mondays and Wednesdays 6-7:30pm.  For more info, reach out to Breyden Bailey or Fighting Irish Wrestling Club on FB.  Or send me a DM here.  
 

Best of luck to you and your son!

All these guys helped my son in addition to Cathedral coaches. Can’t thank them all enough.  

Bryan, Breyden, and Logan Bailey

Brandon Wright

Alex Joseph

Brady Eppert

Troy Patton

Crown this guy poet laureate of Indiana Mat

Cathedral 14

They ought to set another release time in the morning or at least say something. We gonna sit here all night refreshing?

Just now, GenHeavyHandz said:

What are we doing?? 

Just trying to help you out, bub. I am a peacemaker

6 minutes ago, GenHeavyHandz said:

Respectfully Jmills: I’m fine.  Just got over Covid.  I was born a fighter.  Nothing is going to hold me down for long.  I never got rode out in my life.  I’m in the best shape of my adult life.  Besides a groin pull I’m solid.  However: I will not be checked: by anyone whether it’s a forum or real life.  I stand on what I say.  I just didn’t see what was so funny.  

Here ya go.. get it??

1 hour ago, GenHeavyHandz said:

Don’t get the Joke. But I’ll tell him you thought it was funny.  Andy Oberlin ….I’ll let the Veazy’s know you think it was funny as well.  See you soon.

The joke was directed at brickfor6 and his 100yd diagnosis, not Veazy

Thanks @Mattyb   Very helpful post. 

Prayers to their family and community. 

Butt dial 

17 hours ago, Sig40 said:

How does the team scoring work?  Are they using Friday night?

Bailey said Friday does not count. 

33 minutes ago, 4U2NV said:

They should change the name of Semi-State to State and change State to Super-State. That way we will have 4 State Champs for each weight class and 1 Super-State Champ. Lol. 

Good compromise 

I think this guy has a good message so I donated 5k bananas. 

If there are scalpers out there on Friday, I fear for their safety. 

Man this stinks. Can’t believe people would do that.  

Looked to me like each wrestler had a unique code. Was able to buy tickets for Friday, but presale window doesn’t pop up for Saturday.

Maybe parents won’t get priority for Saturday unless their kid makes it thru?