800lbs Gorilla Mama

(82) Ranked Wrestlers 
(7) #1 Ranked Wrestlers
(120) (132) (138) (145) (152) (182) (220) 
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(35) Ranked Wrestlers are from Mooresville Regional
(22) Ranked Wrestlers from Bloomington South Regional
(19) Ranked Wrestlers from Evansville North Regional
(6) Ranked Wrestlers from Jeffersonville Regional
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(34) represented Hendricks County largest group they ever brought to Evansville Semi-State . 
Avon (9) – B. Garcia (106), T. Conley (120), Rioux (126), A. Garcia (132), Reynolds (138), Chatterton (145), N. Conley (152), Brewer (182), Williams (220).
Brownsburg (14) – Miller (106), Nelson (113), Montgomery (120), Lawhead (126), Campbell (132), Kreitzer (138), Ison (145), Cookerly (152), Asbury (160), Jean-Baptiste (170), Glover (182), Edmonds (195), Aiken (220), Keys (285).
Danville (3) – Schubert (160), Waddell (170), Carson (182).
Plainfield (7) – Nuetzman (106), Allen (113), Spears (120), Landon Boe (126), Logan Boe (132), Burdon (145), Biddle (285).
Tri-West (1) – Pugliese (152) 

Sometimes it is really fun watching wrestling moms. Hope you like this one....
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x2KNgT3WWqkDaDRbWrlMau210Vj-SxYA/view?usp=sharing
 

As the Ben Davis guy who has been around a long, long time I will try to give you a couple. Don't get me wrong, they sound like excuses and I don't like excuses much. And, none of this is personal, hopefully my comments aren't construed as being a shot at anyone. Some comments i won't make in this forum as it isn't the right forum. However, there is my list, top of my head.
1. Resources - many programs develop talent by charging their kids $ every month or kids go to a "pay to play" facility like CIA, Red Cobra, Contenders, etc... In a lot of cases, we have kids who can't afford shoes, the sport fee or don't even know where they are staying tonight. Now, add on the cost of a USA card, tournaments, etc... and that is money our families need to spend elsewhere. Sure, we fund raise, but you can't cover costs for 50+ kids in a youth program to develop them in wrestling the way we would like. By the way, very few of our kids have a great support system. I can't imagine, as a 16 year old kid trying to cut weight, get to a Saturday practice, pay for a sport fee, new shoes, etc... without any parental support
2. All of the BD families from my era and later have moved to Avon, Brownsburg, Plainfield, Danvile, etc... i.. And, no families move into Ben Davis. Everyone is heading out West over the last 15 years, ncluding my family.  I know I have coached a dozen or so kids in Junior High that have gone on to be successful at the state level in other programs. Good for those families for getting themselves into what they see as better situations personally.
3. I think BD has a remarkable amount of kids that start as Sophomores and Juniors. Sounds great to have bodies in the room, but wrestling in the MIC, Marion County and the same Sectional as Avon (you), Brownsburg and Plainfield - 90- percent of the time these kids just can't compete with someone who has had 4+ years of experience get frustrated and quit. And, how hard is it to sell this story "If you bust your butt, give everything you can you might win half of your matches" and "to be the most competitive you can, you need to learn how to eat right and maybe watch what you eat a little". They can't because they don't have quality food in the house.
4. The sport has no "middle class" anymore, there are elite wrestlers and everyone else. We all know the sport is hard - if you are getting beat up all the time it isn't fun, if it isn't fun you quit (unless you are an idiot like me and wired differently). We have a lot of great kids in this state who do well nationally. So, I am a 3rd year kid who has grown up wrestling some of the many studs on the WestSide and Marion County and I get pounded every time, I get discouraged. I get discouraged and just don't love the sport the way I need to love it to get better - I could have been a good wrestler, not elite, but good, maybe a Semi-State or even a State qualifier, but I can't get out of sectionals. I tihnk it was 2 years ago at the Avon Sectional at 106, 3 of those kids placed in the top 7 at state and I believe 3 others from MIC and Marion County placed as well.
5. I can keep going, but will conclude with this... I would rather build better young men (as I am sure we all do). It has taken me a while to admit that winning isn't as important to me as making someone successful at life (and this statement in no way makes me think that the previous 2 statements are exclusive, I am a better person, employee, boss, etc.... for being a wrestler). At some point, we are trying to get kids to graduate because we are now their parents. I could throw in a bunch of stats, but they don't change the situation. I would love to be singled out in a post about our wrestling, not the lack of our wrestling, but that isn't where we are at right now. 
Don't misinterpret any of this, I want to beat everyone. I don't want to lose. but, spend a few months inside the program and you will see it isn't just a numbers game. 
For better or worse, I am BD wrestling - as are a group of guys that I am proud to coach along side who also fight the daily battle to keep this program together and moving forward. 
Brett Nabb
BD 1987 and 20 years coaching wrestling in Wayne Township

On October 27th Marian University will have their intrasquad at Perry Meridian High School at 2pm. The majority of the team is Indiana guys from the best programs in the state and you can see some match ups that never happened in High School. 
125- Chris Sharp (Broad Ripple HS) vs Anthony Jagel (Middletown HS in Ohio)
133- Trey McCartney (Harrison WL HS) vs Carson Willis (Castle HS) 
Winner will face Brandon James (Perry Meridian HS)
141- Logan Hurley (Perry Meridian HS) vs Mason Miranda (Avon HS)
Jesus Mancera (Lawrence Central HS) vs Alex Fauber (West Lafayette HS)
149- Bailey Moore (Beech Grove HS) vs Noah Warren (Perry Meridian HS)
Ryan Surguy (Shenandoah HS) vs Adam Brinkman (Milan HS) 
157- Kain Rust (Perry Meridian HS) vs Tony Mosconi (Cathedral HS)
165- Ishmael Cornejo (Portage HS) vs Trezdon O'Neal (Hamilton Heights HS)
Jack Servies (Perry Meridian HS) vs Sam Osho (Avon HS)
Jacob Schrader (Greenwood HS) vs Quienton Ingram (Brownsburg HS)
174- Cameron Simmons (Lawrence Central HS) vs Matt Burns (Hobart HS)
184- Charlie Hill (Lawrenceburg HS) vs Alston Bane (Richmond HS)
Jeremiah Dilley (Wawasse HS) vs Ike Murrell (Terre Haute North)
197- David Delph (Frankton HS) vs Zach Worm (Southmont HS)
HWT- Seth Abad (Lowell HS) vs Ethan Bunce (Lawrence Central HS) 
Elijah Bailey (North Central HS) vs Derrick Lewis (Center Grove HS)

Congratulations to Eli Pokorney from Chesterton for signing with Purdue. He is projected to wrestle 285.

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Jared,
 
I want to  say Congratulations on a GREAT HEAD COACHING Career Avon, LN, & Zionsville!!  You coached numerous State Placers, State Champs, HS All Americans, HS National Champions, NCAA Div. 1,2,&3  wrestlers, Nationals Qualifiers and All Americans.  You were the only Head Coach during the IHSAA Dual Team State era to take 2 different Schools to the IHSAA State Championship match (Avon, LN) both finishing 2nd....Never could win the big one (Ha Ha)!! There are many more accomplishments you have achieved in your career, but those are the ones that counted the most & that I remember!
I wouldn't be the Wrestling Coach, Husband, Friend, or Father I am today without having you as a friend & mentor!  The true greats in any sport are the ones who give back, and leave it better than when they got it.  You have done a tremendous job promoting our sport, growing it at every level,  at every school you were a HC.  I have truly enjoyed every second coaching with you at LN (memories I will never forget) and the battles coaching against you (even though our wives hated those matches) HA HA!!!! You always bring the best out of not only the athletes you coach, but the opponents you coach against.  I am going to miss not seeing you on Saturdays, it will not be the same!!!! Enjoy the 1-0 record against me, you will have it forever!!!  
I can't wait to see you in the Hall of Fame, with all the other great coaches who have given countless of hours away from their families, to do good for others in this sport. Enjoy the extra time with your little ones!!!! I know you will keep giving back, see you on the Pee Wee circuit!! 
 
Your Friend,
Weimer

Carlos Molina and Jacob Laughlin of Jeffersonville sign with Lassen Junior College
 
This makes five Jeffersonville wrestlers out of our senior class that have committed to wrestling in college. Hopefully we have another one or two to announce soon...

Avon would like to welcome the Head Wrestling Coach of Indiana University!! Angel has an amazing resume of accomplishments 
4x State Champ! 
223-1 record in high school! 
Fila Cadet Freestyle Champ
NCAA National Champ @ 125lbs in 2008 
and a World Team Member!! 
Come out this Thursday to get a great workout in before we get ready for State Weekend!!
Enter door 31
RTC is from 6:00-7:30
 

My brakes are fine.  It's not what was said, I think Gable is one of top high school wrestlers of all time.  If you would have said the same comment I would not have a reply, I don't know you.  Fabio has had some digs on Mason in the past,  I think if you know someone on a personal level you shouldn't take shots at them.  I would never say Brayton is not on the level with someone.  Called respect!!!

Why are you even bringing up Masons name?  He is not even wrestling in this event.  Plus we could give a shit what you think..  Don't bring his name up again Fabio or I might have to make a trip to Brownsburg!!!!

Portage High School graduate Steven "Bam" Lawrence has signed his letter of intent to wrestle at NAIA powerhouse Grand View (Iowa).  After finishing as a 2x JUCO All-American at Ellsworth (Iowa) he will look to continue his career with the 7x defending national champion Vikings.  Thanks for representing Indiana and Portage proudly and wishing you continued success!

Army is sending  Cael McCormick and Gunnar Larson. 

Just for technical clarification, getting pinned would fall in that category

That’s my guy Roy (Trae) Reynolds up top. Great kid. So proud of him. Now that’s a great gpa! 
Congrats to all. 

The talk of this year’s state finals is the depth of the 126 lb. weight class. We’re all expecting some wild results and it could POSSIBLY be the best weight ever, but that’s subjective. It has sparked a discussion in my friend group on what is the best weight ever in Indiana. Here are our results:
2009 103 (Note: 9 state titles & 3 runner-up finishes)
2011 112 (Note: LeCount, eventual 2x State Champ didn’t even qualify)
2012 126 (Note: Featured Nick Crume, Cody LeCount, Kyle Ayersman, and Cody Phillips) 
2013 106 (Note: Five state champions in this weight in Red, Hildebrandt, Pepple, Lee, and Smith)
2013 285 (Note: Three Fargo AAs in Bernard, Streck, and Winfield, four nationally ranked wrestlers total with Hemmelgarn)
2014 106 (Note: Colton Cummings didn’t place at this weight)
2014 220 (Note: Four nationally ranked and undefeated champs from each semi-state, two of which were Fargo AAs)
2014 285 (Note: Four nationally ranked heavies in the fray with two as Fargo AAs)
2015 120 (Note: State Champs Brendan Black and Jeremiah Reitz were eliminated Friday night)
2015 285 (Note: Three nationally ranked heavies)
2016 220 (Note: Four undefeated nationally ranked semi-state champs were in the fray.)

Not necessarily my views, but I was reading a post on the another sight.    The title was "Is year round wrestling killing the sport? 
To summarize,  it just pointed out that due to kids wrestling 12 months,  we are developing great dominant wrestlers, and that looks great on the surface, but overall participation is dropping as a result.   The sentiment was,  the only way for kids to compete at the top level you have to wrestle all year round, only specialize in wrestling.   The kids that play multiple sports or don't have the resources to play year round, cant compete against the year round big dogs because they're not putting the time in or getting the training.   As a result, they're playing other sports because they're not going to be as successful.  Also adding to this is the pressure from other sports requiring specialization, thus scavenging good athletes away from wrestling.   The conclusion is this is the biggest reason why we have so many forfeits (not just an Indiana problem).  They even hit on the ever expanding national tournament circuit, that a lot of kids are being put in these too early and its freaking some of them out or burning them out when they're young, thus driving them away from wrestling.   Traveling sports is a billion dollar industry and is a phenomenon that every sports going to have to find away to adapt.
I got to agree that our best kids Indiana are better than ever.   But the middle and bottom levels are thinner than Ive seen. You also can see this represented by the top ranked schools have  4or 5 kids that can win a state championship. The big programs are doing things right and have something going on, but they're like the Tom Brady's of wrestling. They're monopolizing the state championships.
I just wonder about peoples opinions related to sports  specialization in wrestling?

Here’s my opinion:
If we want wrestlebacks from the IHSAA, do NOT argue a kid gets caught or has a bad match.  They say we aren’t valuing the effort and performance of the kid had who pulled the upset.  
Focus on the ridiculous draws that puts two placers against each other.  At Mishawaka Joey Smith beats Trace Hall of SB Riley in triple OT I believe to win the Regional.  We had lost to him like 3 times that year.  Our reward is we draw into Galka of Hobart who had been injured precious week.  Hall places at state and we lose in ticket round 3-2.  
Even better one: Trent Reinoehl beats Young of CMA in OT to win regional.  Churchard of Valpo and Roach of Crown Point are In same regional. Our reward?  We draw roach in ticket round and lose 3-2.  Chrurchard gets first, roach 2nd and young 3rd at state while we sit in the stands.  
If we are ever going to get wrestlebacks, it’s my opinion that these situations must be focus.  Don’t even bring up someone getting caught.  IHSAA will use that against us. 
 
Snyder 

Top-20 state ranked wrestlers by weight and grade
  106 113 120 126 132 138 145 152 160 170 182 195 220 285   Freshman 9 3 1 1 1 0 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 19 Sophomore 3 4 8 1 5 1 3 6 1 2 1 0 0 1 36 Junior 5 11 6 6 7 2 8 4 6 6 4 8 6 5 84 Senior 3 2 5 12 7 17 6 9 13 12 15 12 14 14 141

This chart shows # of Top-20 state ranked guys per weight per regional.  Total for each regional at the end
  106 113 120 126 132 138 145 152 160 170 182 195 220 285   1. Hobart 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 4 1 26 2. Crown Point 1 3 0 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 1 2 0 2 18 3. Penn 1 1 1 3 2 2 1 2 0 0 1 1 0 4 19 4. Logansport 1 0 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 6 5. Goshen 1 0 1 3 1 3 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 15 6. Carroll (Fort Wayne) 1 1 2 0 0 1 0 2 3 2 1 3 2 1 19 7. Peru 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 2 1 0 0 1 6 8. Jay County 2 2 0 1 1 1 3 2 1 1 0 0 1 1 16 9. North Montgomery 1 2 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 2 1 2 1 15 10. Pendleton Hts 2 2 2 0 1 4 1 2 1 1 2 2 2 2 24 11. Perry Meridian 2 2 2 2 3 1 3 1 1 3 1 2 2 0 25 12. Richmond 0 1 1 2 1 0 1 0 1 0 2 1 1 1 12 13. Mooresville 3 2 3 3 2 2 3 2 2 3 2 1 3 5 36 14. Bloomington South 2 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 2 2 0 0 12 15. Jeffersonville 0 1 1 1 2 1 1 0 1 3 0 1 0 0 12 16. Evansville North 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 3 3 0 2 0 2 0 19

i Like it with 8 man bracket you eliminate the upset but get to the closet top 4 per semi state 
at the state level I would like 2 changes
1. A committe to seed the champs 1-4 separating the top 2 guys instead of having that in the semis. 
2. Random starting point for the finals or choose the marquee match lee vs red or 126 this year. I dislike that half the statium leaves before these guys wrestle. 

this is an example of a D-bag comment for anyone who is reading.  Just wanted to point it out since Y2 won't install the "dislike" comment button for me.

Maybe not previous accomplishments but depth and future 
2014 106 
1st Reitz Griffith-duke(champ) 
2nd- konrath mt Vernon-Wisconsin 
3rd- Bailey cathedral-northern illinois/IU (champ) 
4th- white new pal- Purdue (champ) 
5th- will egli mater dei 
6th hildebrant penn- central Michigan(champ)
7th langloh Columbia city- Tiffen 
8th hatch Warsaw- wabash 
SQ Cummings Lowell- army(2x champ) 
Sq wiemer east noble- indiana tech 
 

106- Portage Moran in the Semis 
126- Avon Garcia in the Semis 
145- Portage McIntosh in the Semis 
152- Portage Washington in the Semis 
195- Portage  Bondon in the Semis 

Bunch of Indiana wrestlers wrestling back now. 
Wins right now that are still alive that will be wrestling tomorrow 
113- Tyler Conley 
120- Brock Peele 
120- Ray Rioux 
132- Jaden Reynolds 
138- Mason Miranda 
160- Sam Osho 
182- Aaron Conde 
182- Jeremy Torres 
220- JayDen Williams 
285- Ricky Beeah

We never rested anyone at this or any other events in the years I was there always injuries and sickness this time of year. And yes MD kids in that gym is not an easy feat for kids who normally wrestle in front of their parents and that's it at home duals. Other schools just don't get alumni from the past 25 yrs to show up, it can get insane in there. Avon been going to MD since Jared Williams days.