Branden McKinney Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Predictions? Mine are 106- Vredeveld (Centerville), Castle, (Hagerstown) Peck (Knightstown), Alexander (Richmond), Rodriguez (Lincoln), FFT. 113- Black (New Castle, Sollars (Knightstown), Busby (Centerville), Louks (Tri), Oliver (Northeastern), Gulley (Richmond) 120- Owens (New Castle), Miles (Lincoln), Buchanan (Knightstown), Kier (Richmond), Alfrey (Shenandoah), Cornes (Tri) 126- Phillips (Centerville), Ragle (New Castle), Hanna (Knightstown), Payne (Lincoln), Rickard (Shenandoah), Weber (Hagerstown) 132- Phillips (Centerville), Brown (Lincoln), Nichols (Knightstown), Tuttle (New Castle), McFarland (Richmond), Hummel (Shenandoah) 138- Ragle (New Castle), Pugsley (Shenandoah), Walsh (Knightstown), Steele (Lincoln), Day (Northeastern), Snyder (Centerville) 145- Lohrey (Shenandoah), Deloney (Richmond), Bates (Hagerstown), Westover (Centerville), Garza (Lincoln), Nolen (Knightstown) 152- Purtha (Hagerstown), Clark (Centerville, Barbosa (Shenandoah), Muncy (Knightstown), FFT, FFT 160- Hines (New Castle), Pope (Blue River), Delk (Shenandoah), Newby (Knightstown), Baker (Hagerstown), Runyon (Centerville) 170- Calderon (Centervile), Reeves (New Castle), Webster (Shenandoah), Hancock (Lincoln), Orcutt (Knightsotwn), Greene (Tri) 182- Alred (Shenandoah), Jackson (Tri), Jarvis (New Castle), Orcutt (Knighstown), Peed (Centerville), Moore (Richmond) 195- Pierce (Richmond), Garrett (New Castle), Berger (Northeastern), Brockman (Knightstown), White (Shenandoah), Tannus (Centerville) 220- Clouse (New Castle), Browning (Northeastern), Willhite (Lincoln), Walls (Shenandoah), Moore (Knightstown), Johnson (Centerville) 285- Ahrens (Lincoln), Wisner (Knightstown), Berger (Northeastern), Scott (Tri), Matthews (Shenandoah), Clark (Hagerstown) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddywong Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Man the Tri sectional conversation is slow. Who should we watch and who could might be over looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grappleapple Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I think 126 will be interesting. Ragle lost to Phillips recently - but Ragle is very good at learning from mistakes and bouncing back. Should be interesting as both are very good wrestlers. I think 120 should be a good class - and I'm also excited about the possible matchup of Puglsey vs. little Ragle. I think 145 and 182 are locks for Shenandoah's kids. I think 160 will be real interesting. The team race should be fun too, between New Castle, Centerville and Shenandoah. Knightstown has a very good dual team - but I don't think they are quite as strong in a tournament setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wchew20 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Ragle and Pugsley could be the match of the day at 138. Ragle comes in at 43-2 and Pugsley was a state qualifier last year but came into the year injured from football and probably took some losses he shouldn’t have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grappleapple Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 17 minutes ago, wchew20 said: Ragle and Pugsley could be the match of the day at 138. Ragle comes in at 43-2 and Pugsley was a state qualifier last year but came into the year injured from football and probably took some losses he shouldn’t have. Yeah - I think that one's going to be good to watch. I'm also eager to see the Ragle/Phillips rematch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branden McKinney Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 10:01 PM, Branden McKinney said: Predictions? Mine are 106- Vredeveld (Centerville), Castle, (Hagerstown) Peck (Knightstown), Alexander (Richmond), Rodriguez (Lincoln), FFT. 113- Black (New Castle, Sollars (Knightstown), Busby (Centerville), Louks (Tri), Oliver (Northeastern), Gulley (Richmond) 120- Owens (New Castle), Miles (Lincoln), Buchanan (Knightstown), Kier (Richmond), Alfrey (Shenandoah), Cornes (Tri) 126- Phillips (Centerville), Ragle (New Castle), Hanna (Knightstown), Payne (Lincoln), Rickard (Shenandoah), Weber (Hagerstown) 132- Phillips (Centerville), Brown (Lincoln), Nichols (Knightstown), Tuttle (New Castle), McFarland (Richmond), Hummel (Shenandoah) 138- Ragle (New Castle), Pugsley (Shenandoah), Walsh (Knightstown), Steele (Lincoln), Day (Northeastern), Snyder (Centerville) 145- Lohrey (Shenandoah), Deloney (Richmond), Bates (Hagerstown), Westover (Centerville), Garza (Lincoln), Nolen (Knightstown) 152- Purtha (Hagerstown), Clark (Centerville, Barbosa (Shenandoah), Muncy (Knightstown), FFT, FFT 160- Hines (New Castle), Pope (Blue River), Delk (Shenandoah), Newby (Knightstown), Baker (Hagerstown), Runyon (Centerville) 170- Calderon (Centervile), Reeves (New Castle), Webster (Shenandoah), Hancock (Lincoln), Orcutt (Knightsotwn), Greene (Tri) 182- Alred (Shenandoah), Jackson (Tri), Jarvis (New Castle), Orcutt (Knighstown), Peed (Centerville), Moore (Richmond) 195- Pierce (Richmond), Garrett (New Castle), Berger (Northeastern), Brockman (Knightstown), White (Shenandoah), Tannus (Centerville) 220- Clouse (New Castle), Browning (Northeastern), Willhite (Lincoln), Walls (Shenandoah), Moore (Knightstown), Johnson (Centerville) 285- Ahrens (Lincoln), Wisner (Knightstown), Berger (Northeastern), Scott (Tri), Matthews (Shenandoah), Clark (Hagerstown) Purtha has now gone up to 60, so now only three at 152 and I project him to get 3rd at 160 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branden McKinney Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 It seems that Hagerstown bumped up everyone from 52-70 for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grappleapple Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Branden McKinney said: It seems that Hagerstown bumped up everyone from 52-70 for some reason. Hmmm. Yeah - this is a change. I'm not sure I understand the seeding now though. It shows Hines as the 3 seed now and Purtha as the 2, and Hines beat Purtha 10-2 a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branden McKinney Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, grappleapple said: Hmmm. Yeah - this is a change. I'm not sure I understand the seeding now though. It shows Hines as the 3 seed now and Purtha as the 2, and Hines beat Purtha 10-2 a few weeks ago. I don't understand how this is legal? I thought after the seeding meeting everything is final? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grappleapple Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 24 minutes ago, Branden McKinney said: I don't understand how this is legal? I thought after the seeding meeting everything is final? I don't know the rules. I do see they made Hines the 2 seed now and Purtha the 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wchew20 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 On 1/24/2018 at 2:44 PM, grappleapple said: I think 126 will be interesting. Ragle lost to Phillips recently - but Ragle is very good at learning from mistakes and bouncing back. Should be interesting as both are very good wrestlers. I think 120 should be a good class - and I'm also excited about the possible matchup of Puglsey vs. little Ragle. I think 145 and 182 are locks for Shenandoah's kids. I think 160 will be real interesting. The team race should be fun too, between New Castle, Centerville and Shenandoah. Knightstown has a very good dual team - but I don't think they are quite as strong in a tournament setting. The 2 mentioned Shenandoah kids should both be state qualifiers. Lohrey was 2 years ago and I will be shocked if anyone beats Allred this year. A few weeks ago he tech-falled State ranked #8 20-2, and he was his top competitor in his semistate. Perseverance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, wchew20 said: The 2 mentioned Shenandoah kids should both be state qualifiers. Lohrey was 2 years ago and I will be shocked if anyone beats Allred this year. A few weeks ago he tech-falled State ranked #8 20-2, and he was his top competitor in his semistate. Mahan dropped to 170...Allred is a savage regardless Perseverance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wchew20 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 55 minutes ago, FCFIGHTER170 said: Mahan dropped to 170...Allred is a savage regardless I would have too lol FCFIGHTER170 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indysportsfan Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 43 minutes ago, wchew20 said: I would have too lol Yeah dropping 1 weight down to face the #1 kid in the State is a no-brainer! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wchew20 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Indysportsfan said: Yeah dropping 1 weight down to face the #1 kid in the State is a no-brainer! ? #3 at 182 > #1 at 170. There is a reason he moved down shortly after that match . I knew he had moved down after that match, but I didn’t expect anyone who would comment on the Tri sectional would even know who Mahan was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, wchew20 said: I would have too lol The 1 seed at 152 is going to forfeit all the way to The finals..thats pretty sad Edited January 26, 2018 by jason Branden McKinney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perseverance Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 41 minutes ago, Indysportsfan said: Yeah dropping 1 weight down to face the #1 kid in the State is a no-brainer! ? 36 minutes ago, wchew20 said: #3 at 182 > #1 at 170. There is a reason he moved down shortly after that match . I knew he had moved down after that match, but I didn’t expect anyone who would comment on the Tri sectional would even know who Mahan was. I'm Eric Allred....#3 at 182 Silas' dad. First off, really appreciate your support and confidence in my son @wchew20. He's undoubtedly turned a lot of corners and distanced himself from a lot of guys. The extra training, national competitions....and quite honestly just no longer being 14 has really allowed his strength to catch up to his athleticism and technique. In regards to Elijah Mahan cutting to 170lbs. There's a lot that went into that decision. I stay in periodic contact with Elijah and his family due to my line of work (Evangelism/mentoring/etc). Elijah was a little discouraged after losing to Walton 10-0 and then Silas 20-2. However.....those are his only 2 losses this year, and much more than just those tough matches went into his decision making. In fact.....no disrespect to the other 182's that will be in NC in a couple weeks.....but he likely would've punched a ticket had he stayed put. He's already won matches against a couple of really solid wrestlers in the rankings at 182. Fact is.....I have full confidence that he'll get the job done at 170 as well. Outside of #1 Warren.....I don't think Elijah has an unwinnable match there. Where he lacks the overall strength to compete with top tier 182's.....he'll actually have a strength advantage in a lot of cases at 170 in my opinion. He's an unbelievably great kid on and off the mat. Has a tremendous future in his first love (football).....and in full confidence I can assure you it's not a matter of him dodging anyone. He just wants to place himself in a position that he feels is best for "him". The Allred's are fans of Elijah's and a couple other of the Roncalli wrestlers whose been offseason teammates of Silas'. Great kids, great program, and great parents. We wish them all good health and the best of luck in their pursuit of their goals. Coach Brown, badpta, Juggernaut and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch1StyleZ84 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 On 1/25/2018 at 4:44 AM, grappleapple said: I think 126 will be interesting. Ragle lost to Phillips recently - but Ragle is very good at learning from mistakes and bouncing back. Should be interesting as both are very good wrestlers. I think 120 should be a good class - and I'm also excited about the possible matchup of Puglsey vs. little Ragle. I think 145 and 182 are locks for Shenandoah's kids. I think 160 will be real interesting. The team race should be fun too, between New Castle, Centerville and Shenandoah. Knightstown has a very good dual team - but I don't think they are quite as strong in a tournament setting. I believe something similar to this was said prior to the TEC tournament a few weeks ago, but Knightstown ended up winning. They are both a tough dual and tournament team, can't count them out. That said, I am rooting for Centerville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grappleapple Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, Ch1StyleZ84 said: I believe something similar to this was said prior to the TEC tournament a few weeks ago, but Knightstown ended up winning. They are both a tough dual and tournament team, can't count them out. That said, I am rooting for Centerville. Possibly. I think it will be a good tournament for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch1StyleZ84 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I think so too. I honestly believe it's a toss up amongst those 4 teams. Perseverance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wchew20 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 56 minutes ago, Perseverance said: I'm Eric Allred....#3 at 182 Silas' dad. First off, really appreciate your support and confidence in my son @wchew20. He's undoubtedly turned a lot of corners and distanced himself from a lot of guys. The extra training, national competitions....and quite honestly just no longer being 14 has really allowed his strength to catch up to his athleticism and technique. In regards to Elijah Mahan cutting to 170lbs. There's a lot that went into that decision. I stay in periodic contact with Elijah and his family due to my line of work (Evangelism/mentoring/etc). Elijah was a little discouraged after losing to Walton 10-0 and then Silas 20-2. However.....those are his only 2 losses this year, and much more than just those tough matches went into his decision making. In fact.....no disrespect to the other 182's that will be in NC in a couple weeks.....but he likely would've punched a ticket had he stayed put. He's already won matches against a couple of really solid wrestlers in the rankings at 182. Fact is.....I have full confidence that he'll get the job done at 170 as well. Outside of #1 Warren.....I don't think Elijah has an unwinnable match there. Where he lacks the overall strength to compete with top tier 182's.....he'll actually have a strength advantage in a lot of cases at 170 in my opinion. He's an unbelievably great kid on and off the mat. Has a tremendous future in his first love (football).....and in full confidence I can assure you it's not a matter of him dodging anyone. He just wants to place himself in a position that he feels is best for "him". The Allred's are fans of Elijah's and a couple other of the Roncalli wrestlers whose been offseason teammates of Silas'. Great kids, great program, and great parents. We wish them all good health and the best of luck in their pursuit of their goals. Thanks for the insight Eric, good to know a little more about Mahan and that situation. I know he was ranked as the #2 182lber in the New Castle semistate, so it would be hard to believe that he wouldn’t have punched his ticket. It was never my intention to knock him in any way, I was just responding to the other post to try to get some conversation going about the Tri sectional since it was pretty quiet. If nothing else, we got some conversation going. Perseverance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch1StyleZ84 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I'm most looking forward to the Phillips/Ragle rematch. I hope Gabe can make it 2-0. Not easy to beat a tough opponent twice, but I think he can get it done. wchew20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 2 hours ago, wchew20 said: but I didn’t expect anyone who would comment on the Tri sectional would even know who Mahan was. Oh my friend you'd be surprised at my wrestling encyclopedia...I'm not good at a lot of things but compiling information about wrestling is my love. wchew20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCFIGHTER170 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 3 hours ago, wchew20 said: I would have too lol If silas is on he's doing that to a lot of really good wrestlers..if he gets going it's really really hard to slow him down..ManChild Perseverance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panther87 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Knightstown Wins first sectional in 20 years! Juggernaut and Perseverance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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