Drooke Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 I'm putting together a Top Ten Pound for Pound List for the state of Indiana and was curious who you would include in the list and in what order. Sorry ladies this is just for the guys this time. Just let me know if you think I missed someone and I will add them to the list. I realize that IndianaMat usually publishes a lb for lb list and I hope I'm not stepping on any toes but this is for a different project. Thanks Folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruschi Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 Good list. Welch brothers need to be on the list. I think they both went undefeated at scholastic duals, maybe Doug Welch lost once but they are pretty tough. Add Sims as well. I think Roach, Sims, Welch was the toughest weight class last year. Though Mullins, Tsirstis and Jackson was tough as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooke Posted August 22, 2010 Author Share Posted August 22, 2010 I thought about the welch twins and have been impressed with them but didn't know if they were a viable option to make the top ten.....I will however add them to the poll. I'm not sure that Sims is at that level as of yet....I hope he makes me eat my words though. Thanks for the feedback! Oh, and sorry folks for my first attempt at this poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooke Posted August 22, 2010 Author Share Posted August 22, 2010 From the scholastic duals...Doug had a very good win over Garcia from Co. that kid has all the natual talent but lacks the coaching/technique. Doug Welch- Castle 6-1 150 IL Chino 2-1 IN D. Welch 150 IN D. Welch FF 150 IN D. Welch 6-1 IL Traylor 150 IN D. Welch 7-3 CO Garcia 150 IN D. Welch 8-6 NJ Rappa 150 IN D. Welch 7-6 PA Martoccio 150 IN D. Welch Fall VA Cronin Jon Sims- Evansville Mater Dei 2-3 150 IL Chino 1-0 IN Sims 150 IN Sims Fall Connell GA 150 IN Sims 5-0 IL Traylor 150 NY O. Scott 3-2 OT IN Sims 150 PA Martoccio FF Chad Welch- Castle 7-0 157 IN C Welch FF 157 IN C. Welch 10-0 IL Hardy 157 IN C. Welch 6-0 CO Burghardt 157 IN C. Welch 4-3 NJ Intile 157 IN C. Welch 8-3 IL Taylor 157 IN C. Welch Fall PA Parker 157 IN C. Welch 2-0 VA Grimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidersview Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 If i remember correctly Sims went 4-3 and wrestled on a bum knee.. had a FF, and lost two 1 point matches. Where did you get your results from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooke Posted August 23, 2010 Author Share Posted August 23, 2010 I pulled the results from this link.... http://www.indianamat.com/scholastic-showcase-indiana-results/2010/04/ If you would like to go through the match by match results they are available as well at the bottom of the IndianaMat news page in Dingo's Den. I didn't review all of them but they might not have considered one of his wins as viable because he might have faced one of the teams that were so depleted it was considered a N/C and the results weren't recorded officially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyt Posted August 23, 2010 Share Posted August 23, 2010 I might put Jared Mckinley on that list. Just showing him props. I could list a few studs at the National level he has beaten. Good kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooke Posted August 24, 2010 Author Share Posted August 24, 2010 Indyt, I could see McKinley as a viable option for the poll next season (I hope he makes me eat crow as well), I just don't see him breaking into the Top Ten with the individuals already mentioned. List his national accomplishments if you would though...or pm me. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemOGuy Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I thought about the welch twins and have been impressed with them but didn't know if they were a viable option to make the top ten.....I will however add them to the poll. I'm not sure that Sims is at that level as of yet....I hope he makes me eat my words though. Thanks for the feedback! Oh, and sorry folks for my first attempt at this poll. so was 189, with Sliga,Atwood, and Jones?(stevenson if he didnt get injured) they are all champions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I thought about the welch twins and have been impressed with them but didn't know if they were a viable option to make the top ten.....I will however add them to the poll. I'm not sure that Sims is at that level as of yet....I hope he makes me eat my words though. Thanks for the feedback! Oh, and sorry folks for my first attempt at this poll. Sims is interesting, he has lost to a finalist every year at state and has three state medals. He probably was top four this past season, but ran into Roach in the quarterfinals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingMan Posted August 26, 2010 Share Posted August 26, 2010 I have to second the recommendation to put Simms on the list as well as the Welch boys. What about Lynde? His first loss last year was in the Semi-State finals and then at State (to a Welch). He went out with three losses last year and went undefeated at Disney Duals in the largest school group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryopinionated Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 What about Lynde? His first loss last year was in the Semi-State finals and then at State (to a Welch). He went out with three losses last year and went undefeated at Disney Duals in the largest school group. Question WingMan... Aren't you a family member for Mr Lynde? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooke Posted August 27, 2010 Author Share Posted August 27, 2010 Jason Tsirtsis 83 Mitch Sliga 76 Cody Phillips 75 Eric Roach 69 Drake Stein 54 Kyle Ayersman 43 Ethan Raley 40 Aaron Stevenson 39 Devon Jackson 38 Josh Kieffer 33 After 95 individuals have casted their votes these are the top 10 at this time. I responded in several pm's about the possibility of adding other wrestlers to the voting list. But I will answer the latest query in this thread. This is the way I look at it...before I opened this up for voting I basically had who the top 7-8 would be in my mind and I added the other elite wrestlers from around the state to round out the field. I don't think any wrestlers that weren't included in the list would make the top ten....and please this is not intended to slight the achievements of the wrestlers left off of the list. As I stated before in the first post this has NOTHING to do with IndianMat's pound for pound list but it is for a seperate project I'm currently working on.....I was just looking for my fellow members to solidify what I was thinking and provide some feedback. Some very talented wrestlers were left off of the list and perhaps I did make a mistake but I had to draw the line somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemOGuy Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Question WingMan... Aren't you a family member for Mr Lynde? Lynde is a good wrestler, I believe his first loss was to Tonte @ North Mont. Holiday Classic. Correct me if Im wrong it was a good match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCard Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 I think Devon Jackson gets a little overlooked here, let's not forget he pinned his way through the State Tournament and probably took who most consider THE best pound for pound into OT. I would say I was most impressed by him last year after watching him wrestle. I would say Top 4 in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooke Posted August 28, 2010 Author Share Posted August 28, 2010 I'm a bit curious XCard who would you drop out of the top 4 ?? Undefeated in Indiana Cody Phillips 2 time champ Jason Tsirtsis....nuff said Eric Roach 2 time champ or Mitch Sliga....phenom and recent cadet triple crown winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GO BIG TEN Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 What have have the top four done on the state and national level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cewrestlingfan Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 I'm a bit curious XCard who would you drop out of the top 4 ?? Undefeated in Indiana Cody Phillips 2 time champ Jason Tsirtsis....nuff said Eric Roach 2 time champ or Mitch Sliga....phenom and recent cadet triple crown winner If I remember right, Roach has only 1 state championship. He was 2nd as a fresh, 4th as a soph and champ as a junior. That said, I still think he is top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooke Posted August 29, 2010 Author Share Posted August 29, 2010 Whoops! Good catch CE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeum1970 Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 Jackson Bratcher placed third at state last year, 4th at the Flowrestling tourney, and went 10-0 at the Disney Duals. I wouldn't put him at the top of the list but still he shouldn't overlooked either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingMan Posted August 30, 2010 Share Posted August 30, 2010 I agree that Devon Jackson gets overlooked as well. He looked great at state. But I maintain that Sims is one to watch as well. And just a question, anyone have any idea how many 103 pounders are upper classmen (upper classmen as in Junior and Seniors). I see some monsters at that weight at state and our 103 pounder is typically a freshman and that is typical in our area. But some of those boys you see at the semi-state/state level are truly experienced and cut...just curious. And in regards to the Welch twins. Not only are they great wrestlers, they display great sportsmanship on the mat which is a real package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grappler119 Posted August 31, 2010 Share Posted August 31, 2010 At the 2010 State Finals, for the 103 lb class, there were 2 seniors, 3 juniors, 9 sophmores, and 3 freshman. Placement as follows: 1st Phillips 10 2nd Petrov 10 3rd Schroeder 11 4th Hall 12 5th Brooks 10 6th Farrell 9 7th Stevens 12 8th Hamm 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingMan Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Great info. And that weight is tough at state, which makes for great wrestling. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2cash Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I think Mason Todd is a strong consideration But Brian Harvey has to be one of the toughest young men around. You cant beat his heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cewrestlingfan Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I think Mason Todd is a strong consideration But Brian Harvey has to be one of the toughest young men around. You cant beat his heart. Todd looked awesome at the IndianaMat Pre Season Open and he put a beat down on both Schroeder and Brooks. You are absolutely right. Brian Harvey has a huge ticker and what he went through Saturday showed unbelievable toughness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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