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Sometimes the letter of the rule doesn't completely cover the intent. The intent of that rule is to award a competitor the win if injured as the result of an illegal move. But officials are human and sometimes an illegal move is called when it should not have been. The intent of the rule is not to disqualify a competitor when a mistake was made.
 
I'm guessing the official probably regretted the call & was happy that the coach stepped up & did the right thing.
 
In the end, they got it right. What is wrong with that?

Thank you to everyone who has reached out regarding Preston.  Results of a CT scan and other tests have come back.  Nothing is broken and he will make a full recovery.  
 
As far as what happened, the Mater Dei wrestler had been winning the entire match.  An illegal slam was called.  It was not intentional.  Whether it was an illegal slam or not, I don’t really care.  We were never taking a dive.  Brownsburg doesn’t roll like that.  It goes against everything we believe in.  If I thought it was intentional, It would be a different story.  There is no doubt in our mind that it was just a result of two dudes trying to punch their ticket to state. 
 
It was pretty chaotic as all of this was happening as I’m sure you can all imagine.  Given that it was a neck/head injury, I wanted to give medical people access to Preston.  Once they had time to check Preston out, I took that opportunity to talk to Preston.  There was never any talk or consideration of taking a dive. Preston would never do that.  He was in a lot of pain and upset.  He has had a lot of adversity this season. He tore his ACL at IHPO and has been working through that pain and frustration all season.  I just explained to Preston what had happened and that I was going to forfeit the match.  I told him we were losing…and it would not be fair to take the trip to state away from the Mater Dei kid.  Preston agreed and said he would never do that.  There was no reversal of the call or anything.  I just went up to officials and said we are forfeiting the match.  
 
Whoever said Preston was walking around saw someone else.  He was taken out on a stretcher and to the emergency room. 
 
Snyder 

Had some time, while following the comp today down in Evansville.
These are the State Qualifying positions from each Region today by weight class
 
106    Mooresville 1,3,4  Jeffersonville 2
113    Mooresville 1,2,4  Castle 3
120   Mooresville 1,2  Castle 3 Bloomington South 4
126   Castle 1   Mooresville 2,3  Bloomington South 4
132   Mooresville 1,2,3,4
138  Mooresville 1,4  Jeffersonville 2   Bloomington South 3
144  Mooresville 1,2  Bloomington South 3  Jeffersonville 4
150  Mooresville 1  Bloomington South 2  Castle 3,4
157  Jeffersonville 1  Mooresville 2,3  Bloomington South 4
165   Bloomington South 1,3  Mooresville 2  Jeffersonville 4
175  Bloomington South 1,3  Mooresville 2,4
190  Mooresville 1,2  Bloomington South 3,4
215  Mooresville 1,3  Bloomington South 2  Castle 4
285  Mooresville  1,2  Bloomington South 3  Castle 4
 
Mooresville with 30 State Qualifiers
Bloomington South with 14 State Qualifiers
Castle with 7 State Qualifiers
Jeffersonville with 5 State Qualifiers 
 
Good Luck Next week to all that made it to State.

The wait time to enter the Ford Center was unacceptable today which can be attributed to:
1) Electronic tickets that need to be validated for entry in a nearly cell phone reception free area.
2) One open entry door.
 
 
VenuWorks was closing down concessions during the introductions of the final matches.  It was like they could not wait for us to leave.
 
Please sort it out before rest of the state visits our city.

Something tells me that each coach and parent believes their wrestlers are being slept on and will therefore make some noise. Just a hunch. 
 
 
 
 
Unrelated note, I believe that all 3 Rossville wrestlers are being slept on and will make some noise! 
 
 

Summer weather in Evansville feels different than South Bend as much as winter weather in SB feels different then Evansville.   Pretty decent difference. 

Great read. Your story is not an uncommon one. Your perspective at such a young age is rare. Keep at it.

I think it’s important now that the season is nearing its zenith to address one of the most important issues that I think goes under talked around this time, which is the hard working kids who lose at semi state. Obviously, we should celebrate those who make it to state. That is the goal of almost every high school wrestler, to be among the best in the state and compete in the best venue in all of Indiana. But inevitably, most wrestlers Sunday will not end up advancing to the state tournament. And I think it’s important that we address how to support the kids that lose, especially the seniors who will possibly wrestle their very last matches on Saturday.
 
Last year as a senior, I went into my season with high expectations. For three years straight, I went to everything. My high school coaches could tell you I was person who missed the least practices. I showed up to everything; morning practice, optional practice, summer open mats, I even went to RWA three days a week and trained at my coaches own gym in order to build up my strength and conditioning.  I felt like I was one of the hardest working, toughest people in the state. In middle school at my first off-season tournament I suffered a concussion. My freshman year I broke my left elbow and had to get screws out in, which I still have to this day. Junior year I dislocated my rib wrestling freestyle, and over the summer I suffered severe second degree burns which caused most of the epidermis on my back to slough off. But still, I worked through it all because I felt like if I didn’t I wasn’t being the best wrestler I could. Going into regionals of senior year I broke the scaphoid bone in my wrist, and couldn’t press down or grip my right hand for the rest of season. I felt like all of this only contributed to me being a tougher wrestler on the mat. And even with all of that, I got completely out wrestled at semi state. My broken wrist meant nothing, I did not live up to my potential and didn’t wrestle my best, and that’s why I lost. For at least a month after semi state I was completely in the dumps. It’s like I had a rain cloud overhead, I felt like my career meant nothing. It was over, and I didn’t accomplish what I wanted to. No matter what people said to me, it really didn’t ease the fact that I felt completely empty. I also felt angry. I felt so angry that I had teammates who put in way less practice time than me, who didn’t show up to half the things I did, and yet still advanced farther than I did. I wasn’t angry at them, though, I was angry at myself. I was angry because I felt like that there was something that I must have missed, some piece of the puzzle that despite all my hours I just couldn’t get. And that made me really hate myself for a few weeks. Our sport is so much more draining mentally than it is physically, and for those seniors who lose at semi state, it can really knock your happiness down a few notches for a quite a while. So coaches and parents, if you have a wrestler whose career comes to an end this Saturday, it’s important to not look at their whole career under a microscope and appreciate the whole journey. You got to participate in the toughest sport in the world, you were able to make it to semi state, which while not a particularly impressive accomplishment, still means that likely hundreds of hours of hard work went into that qualification. It’s okay to feel upset, but don’t let it hang over your life. You worked hard, and you did something that most wrestlers in the state didn’t. And to those who have more years, never stop grinding. Embrace it, and make sure to have fun with it. When the sport is fun, you do better. You can make it to state, but you can’t take your foot off the gas.
 
I love wrestling, so so much. It’s the best thing I’ve ever done, and something I plan on continuing even though I’m not on a college team. I’m so grateful to the sport and my coaches for making me the man I am today, and for teaching me such invaluable life lessons. And I think loving the sport is really what’s so important. If you were able to make an athlete fall in love with the sport, with the process, then you succeeded as a coach. If you support your kids and help them foster that love, then you succeeded as a wrestling parent. The lessons athletes learn from wrestling are some of the best life lessons you can learn, and when you are able to fall in love with the sport, these values are only engrained deeper. So to those seniors out there, wrestle your hearts out. Don’t be afraid to lose, don’t be afraid to score points. Leave it all on the mat and put your name in the history books. And to those seniors who worked so hard and end up coming up short, it will suck. But you’ll live. You’ll be okay. And I think that, even if you lose at semi state, if you managed to fall in love with the sport, then it was all worth it in the end. We are all apart of something amazing, and wrestling is absolutely the greatest sport ever. Fall in love with it, and wrestle your hearts out. 
 

As I said in another thread, one of these 2 guys' season ending prior to the State Finals because of no wrestlebacks is flat out criminal.
 
A top 3 wrestler in his weight class not making the State Finals - insane.

Someone needs to change the title of this thread. My naive self keeps biting on the new posts thinking, "This time they're going to tell me how to get tickets to state at the Ford Center..."

A thought, if athletes were not moving into these power schools from other locations, would that change how much of a meatgrinder the Evansville SS is? 
 
If this is going to continue, and there is only reasonable expectation that it will, then there should be adjustments to allow for wrestlebacks...or policies on transfers that concentrate top talent at a few schools. 
 
I am confused. Does Brownsburg want to go to the northern semi state to compete with CP? I don't think Mater Dei or CG have a choice due to obvious location. If there is a concentration of talent in a few schools, is it not reasonable that you are going to get tough draws at semis?

Working on the preview and holy cow... that's all I can say. 

This is a crying shame. Same as 120 Haines vs Henderson
 
How do you get the #3 vs #4 and the #2 vs #3 wrestlers in the State at their respective weight class facing each other in the blood round at SS? You have 2 of the top 5 guys in the state at the same regional - that's how.
 
Two of these guys having to end their season prior to the State Finals because of no wrestlebacks is flat out criminal.

My Brain be buzzing from typing.... so took a break and came up w/ this gem
 
Is it Saturday yet?!?!?!
 
We got winners
We got losers
Dippers and boozers
We got WildCats
We got Bulldogs
We got angry fathers
And the moms all dressed up in their glitter
Hmmm, hmmm, hmmm, hmmm, hmmm, I love the FORD
We got Trojans
We got Olympians
Broken-hearted wrestlers and seniors
And we got state placers
We got fighters
Early-pinners and over-timers
And the old timers in letter jackets talk about their battle scars
Hmmm, hmmm, hmmm, hmmm, hmmm, I love the FORD
I love THE FORD
It's my kind of place
Just walkin' through the front door
Puts a big smile on my face
It’s actually pretty far
Come as you are
Hmmm, hmmm, hmmm, hmmm, hmmm, I love the FORD
 

The least intrusive way to do wrestlebacks would be this.  You lose in the first round, and you are done.  If you lose in the quarters, then you have to hope the guy who beat you wins in the semis and then you wrestle the guy who lost in the semis.  It would add 28 total matches to the day.  Divide 28 by 4 mats, so 7 matches per mat.  Each match takes about 10 minutes let's say, so you're adding about 60-70 minutes to the day.

Cale Bonenberger is pretty amazing too. Greens, meat, marrow..what else do you need?

Ignorance. Arrogance. Indifference to the needs of a sport outside of round ball.
 
I blame the Milan Indians for winning a state title in basketball in 1954. The IHSAA seems to cling to that anomaly as a good reason to spit in the face of conventional wisdom and maintain an antiquated competition system at every possible turn.

Evansville eating its own again.  Twice the number of 1st round ranked matches as any of the other semi-states. 

106 
 
#8 Jessup vs #12 Ogle 
#6 Malone vs #4 Byrd
 
113
 
#10 Leonard vs #8 Schaefer (first round)
#24 Ulley (beat Schaefer 10-3) vs #19 Ash (first round)
 
120
 
#3 Henderson vs #4 Haines 
#9 Hagedorn vs #7 Ash
 
126 
 
#11 Richards vs #3 Rioux 
#1 Schaefer vs #6 Brown
 
132
 
#16 Dedeaux vs #10 Schoeff
 
138
 
#11 Stephens vs #16 Baumann 
#13 Thornton vs #15 Syra 
 
144
 
#1 Courtney vs #13 Cooksey
 
150
 
#1 Krejsa vs #14 Bonenberger
#2 May vs #3 Gibbs
 
157
 
#9 Ratliff vs #16 Hamblin (first round) winner likely gets #24 Banet
 
165
 
#8 Hallett vs #12 Eckels or #23 Turner
 
175
 
#9 Howard vs #14 Sumner 
 
190 
 
#8 Goldsberry vs #2 McConnell 
 
215 
 
#17 Terry vs #14 Watson 
#19 Hart vs #16 Ruhe 
 
285
 
#4 Johnson vs #15 Murphy
#13 Land vs #16 Orisadare 
 
Absolutely Brutal draws this year in Evansville. Evansville normally always has a few really bad draws but this year I feel there are a load more than usual of terrible terrible draws. Good luck to all the wrestlers this weekend. 

Illinois had their regionals yesterday (they do regionals, sectionals, state) and when I checked last night around 8, they already had their sectional brackets built and released.
 

I would be curious to know how other state wrestling series tourneys do there thing. Do other states have a high school authority that really gives no public knowledge to how they select brackets? Why not have a selection show online with a draw??

Then everything you are saying is a flat out lie. If you say you can predict the draws then put them out here for everyone to see how right you are. 

As always, great write up @hook and half! 
 
#BringBackTheTights

Fireworks in Paradise!
 
No respect afforded for fourth-ranked Brady Byrd’s undefeated record by Mater Dei Sophomore, David Aldstadt. Altstadt scored a second period escape and takedown that held up for a 4-2 win. This win (and loss) could have serious implications for the semi state draw.
 
Not to be outdone, Boonville’s Wyatt Ulrey scored the second-biggest upset of the day with a 10-3 decision of MD’s Caleb Schaefer.
 
Yet another freshman—Gibson Southern’s Deacon Dressler—took top honors in the balanced 144-pound division.
 
Highly anticipated was the 150-pound bracket. The top of the board produced a semifinal where Heritage Hills’ Alex Smith pinned North’s Cale Bonenberger for the right to face MD’s Tyler Vanover at the center mat. Smith drew first blood; Vanover got a second period turn for the fall.
 
At 157, Mt. Vernon’s Colton Schneider reversed his fortunes from the sectional, scoring a second period fall over North’s Peyton Bell.
 
Who respected 175-pound Boonville freshman Sam Howard’s 48-0 record?  I am quite sure Howard had his doubters, but at the end of the day, the Pioneer was at the top of the podium.  Three more years of this guy!
 
Heritage Hills ended their regional on a happy note. The final three weight classes were claimed by Patriots Jett Goldsberry, Parker Hart, and Hayden Smith. The trio punctuated their championships with falls. If you are an HH fan there is more good news:  two are Sophomores and one is a Junior.
 
Take Me Down to the Paradise Pin City*- Of the 112 matches, 70 ended in a fall.  Those poor zebras have sore palms…
 
Ain’t got time to bleed- Mater Dei’s Ty Henderson must have scheduled an early date. The junior only spent 2:12 on the mat en route to his title. Training partner, Isaiah Schaefer, was not far behind him. The top-ranked Schaefer scored a fall and a pair of tech falls. Teammate Tyler Vanover joined Henderson’s club counting three falls and 4:12 on the Resilite. Colton Schnieder wants in! The MTV junior also chalked up three pins. Parker Hart and Hayden Smith rounded out the group of adject domination, each adding three falls to their respective records.
 
To quote my good friend, WrestleMan: “It was dominate.” 
 
Dominate, indeed.
 
Sectional round-up- Bad day for the Castle sectional as only 20 will advance to the semi state.  At the high end of the spectrum, the Castle sectional had a better day, claiming half of the available titles.
 
Teams- MD comes out on top with four champions while advancing 12 to semi state. Heritage Hills finishes second, with three gold medalists and advancing seven to the Ford Center.
 
RIP Carl “Apollo Creed” Weathers, one of the greatest nuanced semi-villain-turned-good-guys in cinematic history:  "Stallion, we are born with a killer instinct that can't be turned off like a radio. We have to be right in the middle of the action because we are the warriors. Without some challenge, some war to fight, the warrior may as well be dead."
 
*Apologies to GNR