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Absolutely getting bad and I agree we should follow college rules when it comes to this giving opponent choice! Something has to change. Having a gas tank and being able to compete the whole match is part of the process!  When a kid is hurt a kid is hurt but coaches def. Should be preaching to kids you don't call it unless hurt, not gassed. Biggest thing i see its usually after 2nd period and they never call a 2nd injury time! Seems to be preached as a strategy by some teams these days. 

I have coached a long time and I feel I am starting to see more and more wrestlers call their own injury time. Many times it is because they are gassed and need a break. Something needs to change with this. One of the goals of the sport is to break your opponent. I find anymore as soon as you break your opponent their knee or shoulder magically hurts. Something needs to change. Coaches need to also step up and not let their athlete pull this stuff. It’s hurts the sport. I know college lets the other wrestler have choice after this happens. 

That would be a big lawsuit waiting to happen. No referee should be put into a situation to determine if a kid is hurt or not. 
 
The simplest solution is do what college does and give the opponent choice of position. It's not a penalty, but gives the opponent an advantage.

Yes you could . 

106- Boyd
113- Dickman
120- Jendreas
126- Hawkins
132- Hockaday
138- Shephard
144- Huyvaert
150- Krejsa
157- Brabender
165- Cressell
175- Leech
190- McConnell
215- Clark
HWT- Clark
 
So many great matches are gonna happen! I can't wait!

Outside of that one match, you could argue that Clark has been one of the most dominant wrestlers all year at any weight class.  

I don’t see thrine defeating Schaefer, Schaefer has dominated all year against some of the best guys

Yeah, I'm thinking Jendreas, Shepard, Rhinehart, and Clark boys win.... setting the record. 

I agree deep with talent but believe gavin jendreas has really separated himself from everyone. 2-8 a toss-up but #2 and on jendreas was cutting! He has turned a corner! 
 
144 you may call me crazy, but jeffrey hueyvart is the one to beat. Hes been on a mission all season and I think wins state by a decent margin. 

I agree deep with talent but believe gavin jendreas has really separated himself from everyone. 2-8 a toss-up but #2 and on jendreas was cutting! He has turned a corner! 
 
144 you may call me crazy, but jeffrey hueyvart is the one to beat. Hes been on a mission all season and I think wins state by a decent margin. 

I agree deep with talent but believe gavin jendreas has really separated himself from everyone. 2-8 a toss-up but #2 and on jendreas was cutting! He has turned a corner! 
 
144 you may call me crazy, but jeffrey hueyvart is the one to beat. Hes been on a mission all season and I think wins state by a decent margin. 

I agree deep with talent but believe gavin jendreas has really separated himself from everyone. 2-8 a toss-up but #2 and on jendreas was cutting! He has turned a corner! 
 
144 you may call me crazy, but jeffrey hueyvart is the one to beat. Hes been on a mission all season and I think wins state by a decent margin. 

Jones
Rioux
Jendreas
Thrine 
Hockaday
Shepherd 
Reynolds
Kresja 
Betz 
Rinehart
Costello
Penola
W. Clark
P. Clark

Lewis proved to be right there with Dickman, neither got a takedown.
 
The depth of CP is underrated.
 
At 144 CP threw in Jacob Jones who is 3rd string at 144 for CP (behind Washington and Baca). After falling behind 11-0 after the 1st period, Jones outscored Parker Reynolds (The #2 in the state) 1-0, resulting in a 11-1 finish. How many schools have a 3rd string wrestler that can wrestle a whole match against the #2 guy in the state?
 
Then at 150, CP lost Evan Cruz due to a concussion from the Al Smith and backup Kaptur Nowaczyk comes in and almost knocks off #3 in the state Tommy Gibbs. 

I'm sure you can ask any coach and they would say "why all the tough calls go against (insert school) not just Warren but we can make that up too I guess. I've seen alot of missed calls this yr!  Refs must be out to get everyone or we are giving them tough situations where you have a second to make a decision.  Refs have a tough job! Coaches, parents and everyone critique their every move and most decisions are a gray area where no two people will think alike. I personally think refs care and want the best wrestler to win and most enter reffing because they have a burning passion for the sport. This is my honest opinion! 

Indiana has about 315 schools with wrestling.
California is the only one that you could say has 3x the schools with wrestling. Ohio has just over 500 and Michigan has around 450 schools with wrestling.
 
Your basketball analogy fails to recognize the massive attendance drop off after Damon Bailey graduated.
 
But we won't let the facts get in the way of a good story.
 

Wow, officiating out to get Warren too? I was at al smith and feel officiating has alot of tough calls and prob taking applications if we can do better, I think they all do a great job and won't always be calls we like just like these threads where we won't always like what ppl post! 
 
I know you had nothing but good intentions on this post but came off different in a few ways. I truly believe this would be the same topic no matter the team or "demographic" of athlete. If they have legit reasoning so be it but I think it was more the way it happened no matter what team it was. 
 
Let's not make it more than what it is, it is a big event that the team no matter what team should handle with professionalism and feel honored to be apart of. Alot of hard work, dedication is put forth to put these great events on and that should be respected. 
 
With that said, if there is a legit reason for all that happened then nothing should happen but if it is just carelessness it should be addressed 

Wow, officiating out to get Warren too? I was at al smith and feel officiating has alot of tough calls and prob taking applications if we can do better, I think they all do a great job and won't always be calls we like just like these threads where we won't always like what ppl post! 
 
I know you had nothing but good intentions on this post but came off different in a few ways. I truly believe this would be the same topic no matter the team or "demographic" of athlete. If they have legit reasoning so be it but I think it was more the way it happened no matter what team it was. 
 
Let's not make it more than what it is, it is a big event that the team no matter what team should handle with professionalism and feel honored to be apart of. Alot of hard work, dedication is put forth to put these great events on and that should be respected. 
 
With that said, if there is a legit reason for all that happened then nothing should happen but if it is just carelessness it should be addressed 

Wow, officiating out to get Warren too? I was at al smith and feel officiating has alot of tough calls and prob taking applications if we can do better, I think they all do a great job and won't always be calls we like just like these threads where we won't always like what ppl post! 
 
I know you had nothing but good intentions on this post but came off different in a few ways. I truly believe this would be the same topic no matter the team or "demographic" of athlete. If they have legit reasoning so be it but I think it was more the way it happened no matter what team it was. 
 
Let's not make it more than what it is, it is a big event that the team no matter what team should handle with professionalism and feel honored to be apart of. Alot of hard work, dedication is put forth to put these great events on and that should be respected. 
 
With that said, if there is a legit reason for all that happened then nothing should happen but if it is just carelessness it should be addressed 

I would say 5 for sure definitely have a chance. I think in modern era no team has had more than 4. So if done could be a record breaking year . 

4-5 are for sure a possibility . I think the most dominate looking of the 7 are Jendreas and P. Clark. 

I think it’s the showing up 30 minutes late, FF multiple weights when guys were weighed in, AND leaving early. One or two of those okay, but ALL three at  team state is hard to ignore.

Yeah we all heard the code words too my friend..."cultural", "demographic", "good ol boys" , "Chads", "Karens"....you can try to explain it any way you want , but we all knew what you meant. I am done with this thread. I hope you have a good day.

I agree, whats sad is the selfishness (unless a valid reason) to pull a team like that when so many people work hard to put this great event together. This event is fun and alot of ppl work hard to get these mostly ranked kids together to battle and have a good time and now there is a team that is short on matches due to wc pulling. I'm sure alot of team would be honored to be apart of team state! Absolutely should be banned from team state and its a shame! Imo! 
 
Side note: all the hard working people that were involved with hosting and putting team state together thank you for all that you do for these kids! Indiana is blessed! 

“Bush league”
 
To clarify I don’t believe anyone is “slamming the kids”.. I think everyone is bothered that the “leaders of young men”(coaches and AD) thought this was a wise move or the right thing to do.