Manimal2001

Reminder to everyone on here, including myself, that we are grown adults speaking on high school kids. From the looks of it, there’s been some jabs and shade thrown on some threads, and it’s never that serious. It’s just wrestling. Sometimes it’s okay and necessary to take a step back from the board and just watch. This is for discussion about the sport, it becomes something completely different when everyone is throwing shots at each other, making claims about programs, and making remarks about kids. This is meaningful to those participating whether as a wrestler or coach, but there is far more to life than high school wrestling.

Sat next to MD fans the whole tournament. Super nice, respectful, and passionate people.

Who didn't have Thrine placing 4th at semi-state?
 
He was ranked 5th in the state, which outside 106 and 113 very few freshmen are that high. The only ones ahead of him were former state placers that he didn't see until the state series.
 
Rankings are based on hard data and ours are locked before sectional.

I saw your username then quit reading after, “sounds crazy but hear me out”

I will get to work scheduling wild card weekend if we can get 5 other schools in. 

12/9 we could host in Indy. (We can't schedule earlier than this because of football) 
 
Garrett doesn't look like they have anything
RC hosts a Super Dual
Peru doesn't look like they have anything
Angola doesn't look like they have anything
Glenn hosts a super dual
Southridge has the PAC (might be tough to move) 

Totally understand if coaches don't want to realign their schedules to make this work. We will host/ travel anywhere to earn a wildcard spot. 

12/2 we see Cascade, Owen Valley, and South Putnam. (Maybe Monrovia as well) 
We see Hamilton Heights the following week. 
 
If we can get a chunk of those 11-20 teams to see each other in early December it could help find the best 2 wild card teams. 

I wanted to know where we stacked up so I spent the evening in TrackWrestling and Excel. 

Apologies if I left anyone out, I based it off of top finishers last year and anyone I saw that seemed to be doing well this year. (Let me know if you feel like you were slighted.) 

Category assignments are still as of 2020. (Per the heading in the doc) Would love to know how these updated.
 
The heading "Expected # of Individuals Advancing by Team Strength" doesn't appear to update annually? 

To put it in perspective in 2020 in our sectional the standings were: 
 
Cathedral (14)
North Central (10)
Mt. Vernon (13)
Lawrence North (7)
Lawrence Central (4)
Tech (4)
Brebeuf (2)
Chatard (1)
School for the Deaf
 
Vs this year
 
Cathedral (14)
Chatard (8)
Mt. Vernon (9)
North Central (9)
Lawrence North (8)
Tech (3)
Brebeuf (2)
Lawrence Central (3)
School for the Deaf (1)
School for the Blind
*Number in parentheses is advancers. 

To me that looks like an increase in "Expected # of Individuals Advancing by Team Strength" between Chatard and LN.  
 
Comparing our top 5 finishers to two of the "5" rated sectionals 
 
Jay County (12)
Bellmont (11)
Adams Central (12)
Norwell (8)
South Adams (5)
 
or 
 
Carmel (11)
HSE (11)
Fishers (10)
Westfield (8)
Lebanon (7)
 
Not asking for a change in difficulty ratings just curious on how that is calculated. Since the graph in there isn't super self explanatory. 
 
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I used the 2022 scoring criteria and I rated Centerville Sectional as a 4. (But after diving into it deeper it might be a 3.)
This does include bonus points for lineups. 

1. Jay County 156 (12)
2. Bellmont 150 (11)
3. New Prairie 142 (12)
4. Delta 140 (13)
5. Monrovia 138 (6)
6. Western 135 (10)
7. Heritage Hills 134 (12)
8. Owen Valley 126 (7)
9. Centerville 122 (12)
10. Rensselaer Central 120 (13)
11. Glenn 118 (9)
12. Oak Hill 117 (10)
13. Wawasee 117 (11)
14. Norwell 114 (8)
15. Northwood 113 (9)
16. Hamilton Heights 113 (11)
17. Southridge 112 (10)
18. Garrett 111 (11)
19. Maconaquah 107 (9)
20. Chatard 106 (8)
21. Beech Grove 102 (8)
22. Mount Vernon (Posey) 100 (7)
23. Peru 94 (7)
24. Indian Creek 93 (3)
25. Yorktown 87 (10)
 
The number in parentheses is wrestlers still remaining. 

I probably have some math wrong somewhere. There were a few kids who's grades weren't entered. But this is pretty close to where we all. 

Good luck chasing down Jay County. 10 kids in the top 2 at sectionals and 8 of them are underclassmen. Kudos to them for building a great program.

106 -
1. Bollinger DE
2. Cline YO
3. Douglas NO
4. Keen WI
 
113 -
1. Johns BL
2. Moore JC
3. Jackson DE
4. Keith CO
 
120 -
1. Mosier DE
2. Curtis JC
3. Dubach AC
4. Keith CO
 
126 -
1. Rowles JC
2. Daniels UC
3. Bradley CO
4. Stuffel YO
 
132 -
1. Cook AC
2. Reiley JC
3. Boone YO
4. Tuttle DE
 
138 -
1. Wood JC
2. Uhlman AC
3. Brooks DA
4. Meyer SA
 
145 -
1. Clark JC
2. Rhonemus DE
3. Hernandez BL
4. Luginbill BE
 
152 -
1. Davis BE
2. Wittkamp JC
3. Stebbins DE
4. Funk AC
 
160 -
1. Loshe SA
2. Abbott CO
3. Davenport DA
4. Clay DE
 
170 -
1. Myers BE
2. Russell DE
3. Wagoner YO
4. Kahn BL
 
182 -
1. Page MO
2. Summersett SA
3. Wenk JC
4. McCabe NO
 
195 -
1. Currie AC
2. Kukelhan BE
3. Harty MC
4. Luther NO
 
220 -
1. Martin BE
2. New YO
3. Bluhm AC
4. Gehrett BL
 
285 -
1. Waters MC
2. Cruz BL
3. Wurm AC
4. Kahn NO
 
 
Jay County over Delta

I call it bulldog too, funny depending the room you're in the name its called haha

I call it bulldog too, funny depending the room you're in the name its called haha

I call it bulldog too, funny depending the room you're in the name its called haha

Mr FCFIGHTER170. Brevan's win over #9 Cameron Clark was a tight match. A match that Clark was leading for 2 periods. The 3rd period was tied 4-4 until the last :49 when things got real interesting and into a situation that Clark ended up on his back. I wouldn't say it was dominant by any sense of the word. I think it's great that you promote your guys but let's not go overboard.

Emilio Liscano may be one to watch, he beat Bryan Hernandez this weekend 4-3. Liscano also has a major decision loss to Teusch and lost 1-0 Wyatt Price.

Norwell had two starters out, I believe...one for sure,  but that being said, it doesn't mean results change, and yeah, Oak HIll deserved in.  Oak Hill is always solid and will continue to be solid with the continuity in the program.  You'll be back! ... 2a was tough this year top to bottom, which I'm sure didn't make things easy on the rankers/seeders/vote in.
 
IMO it's really hard to seed 2a because of stereotypes, such as "They don't wrestle anybody."  Teams can only control their schedule to a certain extent, with conference by laws.  How do you compare a 20-0 team who has wrestled teams to be perceived as below average, compared to maybe a 15-4 team, who has wrestled a really tough schedule?  It's hard to do.  
 
We've been under seeded, and over seeded.  It happens.  It's a tough job, but I think you all do a great job and I'm happy we have this awesome tournament!  

jabin wright kokomo 113-120 3x friday night 
4x sectional champ 
4x regional champ
semi state champ and semi state runner up 

Might be a little biased but Aidan Hardcastle is probably the best ever to wear the plain blue Oak Hill singlet. Think our enrollment is around 600.

Adams Central is a small school (1A) that has had a bunch of qualifiers and placers.  This year is our 23rd year in a row with a representative at the state finals. Also 41 out of the last 42 years a kid has qualified. Most of the kids are multi sport athletes as well. 2 of our 3 qualifiers this year were 1st team Junior All State in Football this season. 

I’m floored. . Never saw this coming. 

1 more match....I see what you did there.....LOL

12 out of 14 champs and 9 out of 14 runner ups.  I'll take that!

106: Rowles
Smithley
Keith
Davidson
 
113: Ruble
Mosier
Curtis
Bollenbacher
 
120: Wood
Lewis
Brooks 
Loshe
 
126: Bertsch 
Ulhman 
Reiley
Krejsa
 
132: Clark
Litchfield
McAfee 
Edwards
 
138: Tuttle 
Heskett
Gerencser
Bates
 
145: Abbott
Manely 
Kahn
Davenport
 
152: Currie
Dull
Jones 
Gage
 
160: Johnson
Jones
Pruett
Freidt
 
170: Myers
Fox
Currie
Kahn
 
182: Brege
Summersett
Wenk
Bluhm
I think all JC sectional goes on
 
195: Heyerly( he looks on a different level)
Kukelhan
Jenkins
Dunn
 
220: Farmer
Plattner
Bodkins
Luther 
 
285: Orr
Bennett
Robinson 
Lewis
 

Eric Myers' beard > The Patriot
He's the only one that can tame the beast.

Jay County 126
Has FW SS #1,2,5,6,7. 

Make that state ranked #9,11,16,20,22..Reiley vs Kinnick first round with those 2 and Bertsch all on the same side witha potential Krejsa vs Uhlman semi finals match on the other half! Stupid stacked

Jay County 126
Has FW SS #1,2,5,6,7. 

Jay County 126
Has FW SS #1,2,5,6,7.