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1 hour ago, Y2CJ41 said:

Says the guy who got a SALAD at Whattaburger.... 

Guess that makes sense why he thinks the salad on top of the burger is the best part of a burger...

Kendall Coleman officially announced he's done on Instagram today. Heck of a career, too bad Covid and injury robbed him of his two best shots to hit the podium. 

14 minutes ago, SIACfan said:

Done, but I don't see how Yianni doesn't win. Not very often that someone wins their 4th NCAA title.

Most people with votes I've seen voted for Mason Parris. The Hodge criteria isn't who you think the best wrestler is overall, but who was most dominant during the year. Past accolades are far down the list of tiebreakers, and they may have axed that part of the criteria this year. His loss to Gomez really hurts. Mason also has the argument of being 33-0 with a great bonus percentage in a tough weight where he had like ten matches against All Americans this year. 

Also reading up on some of Willie's and Flo's articles for next year, looks like Kendall Coleman has a shot to be back? Willie has him in his crystal ball rankings and Flo has him with one year of eligibility left. But the Purdue account's congratulated him on a great career, so he's probably moving on. 

7 minutes ago, bigballerb said:

Norris and Coppas really did find a groove at the end of the year, they will be big for them going forward.

 

Also would love to see Joey go right away,  dude is special.

I'm very excited for Joey Blaze, I just am never sure with a true freshman going unless he's like Spencer Lee or Mark Hall. I hate burning a year of eligibility on a development year, but Purdue has had success with true freshmen under Ersland, and Joey would seem like the best of the bunch. 

Purdue is in a very interesting spot next year. They were one of, if not the, youngest team in the country this year. They also had key injuries to Thomas Penola and Jake Null that I think elevates them from worst in the Big Ten to middle of the pack. Purdue brings back Ramos as the lead AA contender, but no one else really of that caliber yet. Filius and Coleman are gone, I wonder Greyson Clark and Joey Blaze go right away at those spots? 174 should be manned by either Jake Null, who was a highly regarded transfer, or Brody Baumann, who had a very good redshirt year. 184 and 197 were weak spots this year manned by freshmen, wonder if Orlando Cruz can break through, or someone bumps up. And I liked what Dustin Norris and Hayden Coppass looked at the end of the year as freshmen. 

Purdue could be back to a middle pack dual team, and hopefully get Ramos back on the podium. The portal also looms large as it does nowadays, both for potential guys coming and going. 

Mat has been sold. 

What's really going to hurt Ramos is he doesn't cut much and will be 130ish when he wrestles tonight, and Pat Glory could be 140+. It'll take an insane effort and a minor miracle, but that's been his whole tournament. 

20 minutes ago, beaner2 said:

No reason at all to spout such idiocy. Mason had a good game plan and was the aggressor today, despite his close match during the regular season with Cass.  Mason is very humble when he wins,  and loses.  Maybe learn some sportsmanship from him.

Lame

Let’s go Matt Ramos! Had me screaming and running around the house!

South Adams has an old three piece mat for sale. Looking to sell either the whole thing or sell one of the three pieces. DM me if interested. Thanks! 

10 minutes ago, chef ghost said:

What's the story behind that? Rumor was he missed by several pounds. 

Well he’s wrestling 170 now, missed 152. He had to be cutting hard just to make the lineup. All three weights that were better for him were filled by state champs. It was either try and make 152 or not have a spot. 

2 hours ago, Coach Beezy said:

I wonder if this event is the largest in the nation for youth sports? 

How crazy is this tournament? This is going to be my first time coaching here. 

1 minute ago, RHendricks9 said:

North Vermillion isn’t better than Brownsburg for the same reason all but Crown Point aren’t better than Brownsburg. Coaching, Culture, access to wrestling clubs and School buy-in 

Thought experiment, if North Vermillion right now, gained Brownsburg's staff, culture, was in the middle of a wrestling hotbed, and had a multi million dollar room and full administrative support, would they be able to field a nationally ranked team just from the kids in their community?

8 minutes ago, Millertime81 said:

This is true, but the wrestler has to ask themselves what is important to them.  This is also why you see kids moving school districts to chase their dreams and have more practice partners and better people to wrestle with.  I personally think this teaches kids a good lesson in life on what it takes to get to where you want to be in life.  Just going through life and following what you think is a "have to" may only get you so much.  Reach out and get those goals and strive for what you want.  It takes doing more or stepping out of your comfort zone sometimes to make you realize this.  Yes other sports may suffer from this, but are you doing what your doing for the school or your self goals?  These are all things that kids are realizing now.

Good on the wrestler and all, but if a small school continually has good kids leave for a bigger program, then are we just ok with small programs dying out?

13 minutes ago, Silence Dogood said:

 

For a start, they would need to wrestle all year round like the kids that are winning state at the schools you mentioned.

 

Which is near impossible at South Adams. Our cross country team is mostly wrestlers, half our starters in football are wrestlers, and then a lot of those same guys make up a solid track program. Even in our middle school and youth, our best wrestlers are the best football players and runners through like 5th grade. These kids aren't just going to drop everything and wrestle, which would also decimate our other sports. 

2 minutes ago, RHendricks9 said:

Out of the 5 biggest schools in in Indiana, Adams Central had more state qualifiers than Ben Davis,  North Central, and Fishers. Culture and wrestlers matter more than school size

A few points. 

1. Fishers has been a school for about 15 years, horrible data point going against a school going back 50

2. Ben Davis and North Central have way more placers than AC does. All three schools have more champs. If AC is such a strong program, why do they only have one champ?

3. AC goes through Fort Wayne, one of the easier semi states to only qualify out of in recent history

AC has a great wrestling culture, their kids put the work in and they have most of the best athletes in the school still do wrestling. But most of them are still two and three sport athletes don't have multiple kids their same level and weight range in the room. The only thing AC can't claim anymore is that they don't have to travel extensivley for RTCs now with Madman Wrestling, Indiana Tech RTC, and The Fort Wrestling all being close. 

25 minutes ago, Galagore said:

Respectfully disagree. Smalls schools and large schools are not playing the same game. The gap between the games they're playing grows wider every year.

Perfect way to put it, and it hit me hard this year. I really want South Adams to have a state champ at some point in time, but I have no clue how a kid from our school is going to compete with kids from Brownsburg, Center Grove, and Crown Point, or any other schools like them. 

32 minutes ago, julio said:

It won't cost $500 for a hotel room.

You must know something no one else knows, like there's a secret underbelly of Indy that the All Star game isn't touching that's filled with hotels, restaurants, and an arena only for wrestling use at the exact same time. 

12 minutes ago, julio said:

People are going to complain regardless of where it is held.  There is a way to have it in Indy, but the IHSAA and IHSWCA don't want to hear about it.

Does that mean you're shelling out $500 for a hotel room?

Love how it looks and love the top wrestler tab. 

45 minutes ago, igotcaught said:

if they were top 5 then what was mater dei ranked? CP at full strength was 6th this year. 

And it's crazy they were that highly regarding but still never really at full strength. Add Murphy, Hawkins, and Rinehart for the full postseason and this isn't even a discussion. 

Dual results are misreading because you can look at the scores, but EMD wasn’t wrestling a nationally ranked team like Brownsburg. And wasn’t Cathedral last year popping in some rankings? Crown Point definitely had a tougher dual path. 

I think you're hottest take here is about freestyle points, not college riding time. 

29 minutes ago, casualwrestlingfan said:

Yep, this is what most do not realize about the FW semi state. We have wrestlers who do much more than wrestling in schools that are much smaller. The schools that carried the semi state back in the day are very much smaller than the likes of Brownsburg, Crown Point, and Center Grove. Hell if we combine all 3 Adams County schools we may still be smaller than the big schools down by Indy. I'll take having 3 straight 1A football appearances in the finals with maybe a 4th this upcoming fall with some qualifiers and maybe a couple placers at this point from our county. Also take the 1A team dual results for AC & SA going above their seeds. Bellmont has done well in 2A as of late even being a former shell of themselves. Plus the baseball teams have had a little success too. We will keep feeding the country with crops & livestock as well!

That's a huge issue as I'm trying to figure out our offseason schedule right now. Of everyone on our high school and middle school teams, I only know of four guys that aren't in a spring sport. Two of them work, and the other two are freshmen that might end up doing a sport. So now I need to figure out when to start, or if any guys doing track or baseball would also want to get a wrestling workout in every week. And then the second spring sports gets out, I have to schedule around football and cross country as best I can. All while having to make sure the gym is available since we won't have our new wrestling space til the fall.