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RUMBLE @ "THE REGION"

Hosted by Region Wrestling Academy

DATE

High School Division = Saturday October 22, 2016 - 9:00am (Will finish in one day)

8th Grade and Below = Sunday October 23, 2016- 9:00am (Will finish in one day)

WRESTLING LOCATION SITE

Region Wrestling Academy

Calumet High School

3900 Calhoun St-Gary, IN 46408

ELIGIBILITY

Must have a 2016-2017 USA wrestler/competitor membership card

REGISTRATION CUT-OFF/LIMITS

We can only accept the first 500 High School Boys AND the first 500 8th grade and below wrestlers. IF we have 500 pre-registered then we will begin a waiting list.

RULES

Modified National Federation Rules—Folkstyle Due to time constraints, we will NOT be using the "new" overtime rules implemented for High Schools in the 2006-07 season. Any matches that go into overtime will use the "old" rules: 1-minute sudden death overtime, if no score, followed by tiebreaker ride out (first to score in regulation gets choice)

MATCH LENGTH

High School Division

2-1-1 on Championship side and medal matches. Consolation matches will be 1-1-1

5th-6th-7th-8th Grade Divisions

1 1/2-1-1 on Championship side and medal matches. Consolation matches will be 1-1-1

1st-2nd-3rd-4th Grade Divisions

1-1-1 for ALL bouts in these divisions

Mouth guard

Mouth guards are NOT mandatory (this includes individuals with braces).

REST TIME

The minimum rest time between matches is 15 minutes.

HEADGEAR

Headgear IS required for Grade School wrestlers.

Headgear is NOT required for High School division wrestlers.

Hair covering is the decision/discretion of the mat official.

. AWARDS

We will be awarding custom medal to the Top 6 in each bracket in each division along with a hand written custom bracket board to the champion of each bracket

TOURNAMENT FORMAT

Double Elimination- we will wrestle to top 6 in the High School boy’s division and 8th Grade and below division. Referees decision at mat side are final. No appeals or challenges will be accepted.

REGISTRATION OPENS: Registration is now open and here is the link on track wrestling to register. http://www.trackwrestling.com/registration/BasicPreReg1.jsp?tournamentGroupId=238160009

REGISTRATION CLOSES: October 20, 2016 @ 11:59 pm CST

REGISTRATION FEE: $40.00 To be paid online when you register.

WALK– INS: If a Wrestler does not register before the October 20th deadline, he / she may walk-in at the weigh-ins. The cost for Walk-ins is $60.00 to be paid at Weigh-ins. Depending on availability based upon pre-registration.

CHANGING WEIGHT CLASSES: We are not charging to change a weight class. You may change a weight class online any time before the registration deadline. After the registration deadline you can only change a weight class at the weigh-ins. If you do not know how to change a weight class, you can just email the tournament director (John Ambrose) and he will make the change for you. Email is ambroseopp@aol.com

USA Wrestling Card: All Wrestlers MUST have a 2016-2017 USA Wrestling Competitor Card. You must purchase your USA Wrestling Card before the tournament. You CANNOT purchase your USA Wrestling Card at the event. To purchase A 2016-2017 USA Wrestling Competitor Card go to www.usawmembership.com

COACHES: Only two coaches allowed per wrestler during the match. Coaches must have a coaching band to be in his/her wrestlers corner. Any inappropriate action/behavior will be cause for removal of band and coaching privileges for the remainder of the tournament.

DIVISIONS AND WEIGHT CLASSES

High School Boys Weight Classes: (9th - 12th Grade)

100, 106, 113, 120, 126, 132, 138, 145, 152, 160, 170, 182, 195, 220, 285 (no allowance!)

Middle School Weight Classes: (7th & 8th Grade)

70, 77, 84, 91, 98, 105, 112, 120, 128, 136, 144, 152, 160, 175, 190, 210, 265 (no allowance!)

Grade School Weight Classes (5th & 6th Grade)

60, 65, 70, 75, 80, 85, 90, 95, 100, 105, 112, 120,130, 140, 150+ (25 lbs max difference) (no allowance!)

Grade School Weight Classes (3rd & 4th Grade)

50, 55, 60, 65, 70, 75, 80, 85, 90, 95, 103, 112, 120 (no allowance!)

Grade School Weight Classes (1st & 2nd Grade)

40, 45, 50, 55, 60, 65, 70, 75, 80, 90 (no allowance!)

If you are enrolled in kindergarten or pre-kindergarten you can enroll in the 1st & 2nd grade division—there will be no separate division for wrestlers that are in a grade under the 1st grade.

 You may ?bump? up division(s)

 You may wrestle in more than (1) division BUT you must register for each division

WEIGH-INS

Region Wrestling Academy--Calumet High School

3900 Calhoun St

Gary, IN 46408

Friday October 21, 2016--6:30 pm to 8:00 pm for High School Wrestlers ONLY and walk ups (if available)

Saturday October 22, 2016—6:30 am to 7:00 am for High School Wrestlers ONLY and walk ups (if available)

Saturday October 22, 2016—6:30 am to 8:00 am for 8th grade & Under wrestlers and walk ups (if available)

Saturday October 22, 2016—1:00 pm to 2:30 pm for 8th grade & Under wrestlers and walk ups (if available)

Sunday October 23, 2016—6:30 am to 7:00 am for 8th grade & Under wrestlers and walk ups (if available)

SATELLITE WEIGH-INS

There will be a number of satellite weigh-in locations that will be announced soon once details are finalized. Satellite weigh-ins are ONLY for pre-registered wrestlers. There are NO WALK-UP registrations at satellite weigh-in locations (unless prior approval by the tournament director) Here are some satellite sites that are confirmed-

Crystal Lake Wizards Facility (Tony Fontanetta)

975 Nimco Unit L

Crystal Lake IL 60014

Friday October 21, 2016--6:30 pm to 8:00 pm for High School Wrestlers ONLY

Saturday October 22, 2016—10:00 am to 11:30 am for 8th grade & Under wrestlers

The Force Wrestling Facility (Joe Arquilla)

24137 W. 111th Street Unit G.

Plainfield, IL 60564

Friday October 21, 2016--6:30 pm to 8:00 pm for High School Wrestlers ONLY

Saturday October 22, 2016—10:00 am to 11:30 am for 8th grade & Under wrestlers

WANT TO HOST A SATELLITE WEIGH-IN?

You can petition the tournament director at ambroseopp@aol.com in an e-mail to be considered for a satellite location. Before you petition the tournament you must have the following.

1.) At least 10 or more wrestlers who are competing in the tournament that will utilize your weigh-in location. They do not have to all be from the same team.

2.) A location that is willing to host a weigh-in for at least 90 minutes long and will not start weigh-ins before 3:00 pm. (in their time zone) the day before the tournament actual wrestling competition.

3.) A location MUST have one of the following physically present if selected to be a host site. Again you must have at least (1) or more.

1.) A certified official/referee whose credentials can be easily verified.

2.) A representative from your state’s wrestling organization that can be verified.

3.) (3) opposing coaches from wrestling clubs within your state’s organization.

4.) Must e-mail the actual weights of the wrestlers to the tournament director within 90 minutes after the scales are closed (not a photo of the weights sent in a text).

SPECTATOR TICKETS

Daily Admission is $5 for Adults

$3 for Students

Kids under 5 are free

COACHES PASS

-You MUST have a 2016-2017 USA Wrestling Coaches Card to have access the floor/competition area.

—PLEASE ALLOW UP TO 30 DAYS FOR COMPLETION OF USAW COACHES MEMBERSHIP/BACKGROUND CHECK PROCESS.

—You will need to pick up your coaches pass wrist band at the weigh-ins or the day of the tournament.

—You must present your 2016-2017 USA Wrestling Coaches Card and an ID to receive your Coaches Pass wrist band

—There is no charge for your coaches pass, but it DOES NOT include your admission to the event. Therefore, coaches will need to purchase a daily admission pass for $5.

—The 2015-2016 USA Wrestling Coaches Membership Card Expires on August 31st, 2016.

—To purchase A 2016-2017 USA Wrestling Coaches Membership Card go to www.usawmembership.com

—You CANNOT purchase a USA Wrestling Coaches Card at weigh-ins or the day of the tournament

— You do NOT need a Bronze Level Card or any additional certification to coach at this tournament.

Jesse hit is goal in 8 hours. Thank you to everyone who contributed. Wrestling fans and families are truly the best. Jesse received donations from wrestling families that live all over the state of Indiana. Thank you everyone. Jesse is feeling truly blessed and loved.

Jesse was offered the freestyle/Greco 91lb spot on USA wrestling International team competing in Medellin, Colombia based off of his Nationals performance this past year. financially my family can't afford to send him, but after talking to a several people I decided to start a gofundme account to help get him there. Jesse is really excited to have this experience to represent his country and Indiana. gofundme.com/22c7gefg

http://mk2.gofund.me/22c7gefg?rcid=4ebf2e44776111e686bbbc764e052a98

Ok, I'll ask since it's been kinda boring around here lately...is this yet another indictment of the success of the ISWA 2 tourney mandate rule? I don't think 10 combined FF's for your top 2 state teams at a national tourney in your home state shows a growth in the styles, which I believe was one of the two outcomes that was hoped to be achieved.

I could only wonder how much better both Indiana teams would have been if there was a better selection process.  The host state should not have any FF's and they also shouldn't have any problems getting the best kids at every weight to wrestle.  Definitely need a new system. 

I wonder how many Indiana All Americans will be crowned at USA Nationals in schoolboy division that were not allowed in this event.

If Chesterton can figure out where to put all their big guys, they will be tough to beat.

If ISWA would have just made a 1 tournament exemption for any of these 3 (USA Nationals, USA National Middle School Duals, and Heartland Elementary duals) there would not have been this outcry.  They also should have taken in account for those wrestlers injured. 

The reason everyone is so pissed off is because the kids this rule is hurting are the kids that are wrestling every weekend, the kids that are training 3 days a week and doing private lessons in Greco, the kids that are trying to better themselves wrestling the best competition in the country, the kids that are going to the RTC's.  The people who chose to have a vacation or take a week off are not on here pissed off, all the people that are posting are parents with children who work their butt off and just want their kids to be able to go to their state tournament and showcase how hard they have been working.  So the reason I made this topic was in hope that ISWA would make a change once they saw how many people they were upsetting in this organization, but instead they turned blame on their members and didn't listen at all to our concerns.  And yes I called and emailed Louis Rosbottom, who did not want to hear any of these concerns.  The hundreds of dollars we spent at all 3 of the above events as a ISWA team member meant nothing to them, so yes I am bitter and completely unhappy with ISWA.  What does this teach your kid?  Why did he work hard to make these teams just to be punished by not being allowed in the state meet? The kids at RWA will continue to train freestyle and Greco and they will be ready to wrestle when the opportunity presents itself... apparently it won't be for ISWA events.

The sad thing is people on this topic WANT to have kids wrestle freestyle, but the rules are preventing it. Telling kids and families they need to invest three weekends(two qualifiers and state) doesn't fly. With the number of RTC's out there kids are getting better by being in a room for two hours a couple times a week instead of traveling to some small tournament and shelling out a couple hundred bucks just to get a few matches in.

 

Be proud of spear-heading the demise of freestyle and greco in the state. I'm sure you will try to spin it off as helping the state.

Exactly. We want to wrestle, but with these rules in place we can't. And practice is so much more beneficial then a local meet. Doesn't ISWA want the best kids represented in a state tournament?

Grecoref,

I get there is tons of 'national tournaments' most are just local tournaments that let surrounding states enter them. I am referring directly about ISWA's Nationsl tournament USA Nationals. I am also referring to ISWA national dual teams that they run for middle school and elementary. My main complaint was that anyone of these events should have appeased a 1 tournament exemption.

Nick-

Going to these events and doing well opens up the eyes to everyone that is there. I am not stating that top colleges coaches are there, but everyone who is there is starting to take notice of Indiana. Also I have seen brands brothers at Celtic elite in tournament in IL and at USA nationals. Either way my only point was why are kids that are wrestling every weekend getting hurt by this rule. Also we can't wait for Fargo, it's a shame we can't compete in the schoolboy duals.

-nick

No one cares about NUWAY national championship not just colleges. But you are out of your mind if you don't think coaches aren't taking notice at events like USA Nationals and Ohio TOC. As well as when Indiana was an OT match away from competing for a National title at the heartland duals. Why does ISWA sponsor these events if they are taking away from freestyle?

Also we attempted to get our 2 qualifiers in just so he could compete on schoolboy national team, but Penn moved their tournament. We are done competing on ISWA national teams until they start supporting their own wrestlers.

If ISWA really listens to the people then the solution is easy, get rid of the qualifications. Problem solved. Obviously wait until next year, but seriously get rid of the qualifications. #centralregionals

Nick,

Why do you think that a kid has to participate in a freestyle tournament to be good at freestyle? Just bc my kid didn't wrestle in a freestyle tournament doesn't mean he doesn't train freestyle. Just bc the tournaments he wrestled in on the weekends during 'freestyle season' were folkstyle has no baring on wether or not my kid can compete at a very high level in freestyle. Wrestling the 25 matches against 15 different states the last few weekends definitely was better for him then 4-6 matches he would have got locally. And yes winning USA nationals and Ohio TOC is good for the state of Indiana. RWA does their part in training kids in the international styles, so don't worry come Fargo time.

Everyone was upset in another topic about how we didn't put the best possible team together for the NWCA and how that looks bad because we are the host state.  Well what about the schoolboy duals, which Indiana is also hosting. Just wait and see how many of our best kids won't be on that team because they can't wrestle in their own state tournament.  Unless ISWA does a tryout or hand picks their team there is going to be a lot of top kids missing from the lineup.  It is a shame because my kid loves freestyle.  #boycottstate

Side note PA Gold only beat Minnesota Storm 33-30 and after looking at match ups I have us beating PA Gold 36-35.  There was a lot of great young talent on this team whom I am sure will get it done next year.

2 MVP's for gold team:

Jesse Mendez(6 pins and a major)

Nate Lommock(5 pins, a FF, and a major)

MVP for blue team:

Seth Willems(4 pins and 3 Dec)

Can you upload the photos of both teams on here so everyone can see what a great job you did with the gear Jason?  Also thank you to all the coaches that donated their time to coach our boys. 

Mendez is in 6th grade, his wrestling partner Colten Drousias is an 8th grader and is going to do some great things next year if he stays in Indiana. Hanover screwed up there. They didn't just lose the Drousias family, they also lost the Mendez and Roberson families wrestling for them.

RWA also won Schoolboy division with 5 kids.

Jesse Mendez-84- Champ

Stephen Roberson Jr-84-6th

Colton Drousias-91-2nd

Noah Mis-91-3rd

Raymond Ellis-144-2nd

Region little guys also had 2 other scorers:

Rowan Treasurer-Bantam-75-Champ

Devin Roberson-Bantam-65-4th

#nohashtags

Apropos of nothing but on topic of this thread....

 

MYWAY (Michigan Association) is barring kids from their tournaments next year if they qualified for their state FK tourney and do not show up to wrestle it! Wonder how that's going over since their state tourney is Apr 1-3 the same time as some Natl tourneys? Maybe ISWA ain't so bad.....

April 1-3 is USA Nationals which is ISWA's national tournament.  MYWAY promotes NUWAY, which is why they are doing this.  They would never screw over their national wrestlers for wrestling in NUWAY or the NUWAY teams they put together.  So don't try to cast ISWA in a good light. 

If Crown Point accepted the bid does that mean they also made a decision on their head coach?

I'm no longer an iswa board member so I'm out of the loop. With this said... Has anyone actually called a board member. To be honest... Very few board members get on this site (with exception to my brother Jmill). Also... I have been at every ISWA freestyle and Greco state for over a decade. Very few people if any actually walk up to the state chair or vice chairs and discuss stuff like this man to man. I'm not taking sides on this issue, but I would like to see some of the people that are crazy vocal on this message board, pick up there phone and call the powers to be. Or.... Better yet talk to them person to person. I can not say without a doubt that this will help or solve the problem, but.... I assure you that it will solve more issues than getting on this board a spewing venom. Again, I'm not taking sides in this matter, but if people feel this passionate about the issue I would love to hear how a conversation goes between them and a chair at the iswa.

 

Btw... That's how I became a board member to start with. I had concerns and ideas. I went to the iswa with my ideas, and they thought they were good. They then asked if I could give of myself to make wrestling better here, and I gladly stepped up and did what I could.

 

This message is not geared to anyone.... So, please do not take it the wrong way. The bottom line is this... Don't talk about it be about it!

I just got off the phone with Louis Rosbottom and he denied my request for 1 tournament exemption.  My argument was that we set our schedule when they set their schedule on their site.  We set aside this weekend and next, but then Penn moved there tournament just a week ago.  By this time we already made other commitments and also passed on wrestling on Bailey's national dual team march 26th.  I asked for an exemption for the 2 weekends that we are wrestling for ISWA's teams(middle school nationals and heartland duals).  I asked him why they are punishing a wrestler that worked his butt off to make both these teams as a 6th grader.  He said there will not be any waivers.

I also offered to pay host tournaments entry fee and he stated that it is not about money, but about wrestling opportunity it gives all the athletes.  Well then they should make sure there is a tournament offered every weekend. I just cancelled our hotel for Columbia City this weekend because if we can't get 2 in then why go to any of them.  Sucks it has to be this way.  I was bringing a few kids with me that were in the same boat, oh well.

We could careless about wrestling in the state tournament and going for a triple crown, it is really about not getting to wrestle in the schoolboy duals.  They can keep this dumbass rule if they want, but they need to host tryouts for schoolboy duals to insure that the best kids are represented on that team. 

I don't see why you need to have State before Central Regionals...according to all the documentation i found on https://usawevents.sportngin.com/page/show/1019235-central-regional-championships there is no qualification necessary.  

 

As for the Schoolboy Duals team you could host a wrestle off much like what they do with the Heartland Duals. Ryan Parrish has done an amazing job with that system. 

 

I think again the main failure here is the lack of communicating with the customers (wrestlers and their parents). Board members are on this forum and see what is said, the argument of "go to a meeting to explain your issues" is just simply dated at this point. We live in a world where constructive dialog can be had with people from all over the state and world the problem is if people are not willing to have that dialog we end up in the state we are in now and people are shaky about the decisions being made.

 

The VOLUNTEERS at the ISWA do a great job and I do believe they have the best of intentions but there is definitely an evolution that could happen to truly help elevate the state to the next level and help mend this clear rift that is forming between it and the wrestler/parents. 

 

In the end I hope we can continue to grow and improve.

 

These are just my observations. Could be right could be wrong but nothing hurts discussing them.

State after regionals would be great and it could count as a qualifier.  Might help the attendance, which I noticed was awful when it was in indy.

I think a tryout for schoolboy duals is the best idea anyone has stated so far.  It is the only way to insure that Indiana gets the best kids at that event.

Since there is a 2 tournament requirement shouldn't ISWA also require that atleast 1 tournament is available every weekend during this time?  We had the first 2 weekends set aside for the qualifiers, but now the 2nd weekend doesn't offer us a tournament.  When we decided to do Columbia City and Penn I then made a commitment to Indiana Outlaws to wrestle with them in the Viper Pit duals, which I will not break a commitment we already made.  Bailey has given my family a lot of wrestling opportunities and we won't leave them high and dry.  Plus my kid is really excited to wrestle on the same team as Hughes, BAM, Cummings, Parris, and Rypel(just a few I heard are wrestling on the team). I would be happy to donate money to Hanover or Penn if that would count. 

It is not about believing my kid is too good for local FS tournaments, it is whether or not the 6-10 matches against the nations best is better then the FS matches we will get. 

How long do they have to respond?  Because Crown Point doesn't have a head coach yet.  Maybe the new coach will have his team wrestling during Christmas break.  I am surprised there hasn't been a huge discussion on who the potential CP coach will be.

Sorry just seen this after posting in youth wrestling.

Here is my post from over there.

 

 

 

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Compromise over Boycott. Here is a solution. I challenge the ISWA Board to vote on this:

 

Any wrestler who is on any ISWA team going to National Middle Schools duals and/or Heartland duals should have an automatic exemption for one Freestyle qualifier per ISWA team event.

This makes sense if any freestyle qualifier is held on the same weekend as the ISWA dual team tournaments.

The wrestler parents are already supporting the ISWA by spending hundreds of dollars on the out of state tournaments.

If their kid is doing both, over a thousand dollars when counting all travel expenses.

Note that I stated exemptions not waivers.

I do not think little Johnny should get a waiver because he had a baseball game.

This is all about wrestling.

I like freestyle way better than folkstyle, but during the month of April, that is the prime month to seek out top competition for the younger wrestlers who are not Cadets or Juniors. Do not penalize these kids because Freesyle and Greco States are in May.

Most of these kids on these teams do not know off seasons and wrestle year around. They are at the Academy or Club training Freestyle and Greco. They already are training all styles for years to be ready for Fargo when they become Cadets and Juniors. They are the future of Indiana wrestling.

Do not preach to the choir. We want the same thing. Making Indiana wrestling better and better.

This is a perfect solution.  We aren't asking for a waiver or exemption bc we are doing something other then wrestling.  As I said before we were prepared to skip FloNationals to wrestle at Penn's freestyle tournament, but now there is not a freestyle tournament offered anywhere in Indiana that weekend. Penn moving their tournament to april 30th is going to hurt their attendance bc all the region kids that would have wrestled in it will be going to Hanover's freestyle tournament. 

GrecoCoach stated that me bringing this up is getting old, but I don't think I am doing enough.  My son has worked his butt off to make these ISWA dual teams as well as prepare himself for USA Nationals and Ohio TOC.  My kid loves to wrestle and because he wrestles every weekend he will not be able to compete at freestyle state, it just doesn't make sense.  He doesn't play baseball or football he wrestles and these next few weeks are some of the best wrestling weekends in the nation and I will not sacrifice him getting these amazing opportunities just to qualify for state.  I feel bad for him because now he won't be able to represent Indiana in the schoolboy duals, but I don't see any other way to get the qualifiers in. So please ISWA board members look into helping the kids that are wrestling every weekend get an exemption into your state tournament.

Easy solution would be to grant a waiver to any kid who wrestles in at least 2 out of these 3 events. (USA Nationals, Middle School National Duals, or Heartland Elementary Duals).  Both of these dual teams are ran by ISWA and the other tournament is their National tournament.