decbell1 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Seems to me that that should be the scenario for injury, not for a kid beating the #2 seed, who in turn has beaten everyone else in the tournament...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towelboy08 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Seems to me that that should be the scenario for injury, not for a kid beating the #2 seed, who in turn has beaten everyone else in the tournament...... Who has baker beat in his weight class from the NHC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 As far as I know, Busse had not beaten a single guy in his bracket, and he was still seeded second........ My point is, all of these classes need to be looked at with common sense, and not put to a strict, never-to-be-broken set of rules. Baker p. Dekalb Baker WBF against CC Busse p. Homestead and right now, the backup to the backup at 189 in the Bellmont lineup, Birch Birch d. Parris -NH 5-2 Birch p. Householder EN Birch p. Short-N Raypole beat Busse by a point in the dual, 3-2 I think. There is no reason that Baker should not keep that #2 seed, why should the seeding criteria change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towelboy08 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 As far as I know, Busse had not beaten a single guy in his bracket, and he was still seeded second........ My point is, all of these classes need to be looked at with common sense, and not put to a strict, never-to-be-broken set of rules. Baker p. Dekalb Baker WBF against CC Busse p. Homestead and right now, the backup to the backup at 189 in the Bellmont lineup, Birch Birch d. Parris -NH 5-2 Birch p. Householder EN Birch p. Short-N Raypole beat Busse by a point in the dual, 3-2 I think. There is no reason that Baker should not keep that #2 seed, why should the seeding criteria change? You make an exceptional point.and again i believe that is how the seeding scenario plays out. But after you put it into perspective like that it does make a lot of sense to have him keep that seed. Regardless i've always felt this has been one of Bellmonts Trademarks...having a weight class so deep that a 2nd or 3rd string kid can step up and make a huge impact and make a run deep into the state series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I understand that this is sort of an oddity, but I think if you really try to separate the top two kids, it would be really unfortunate to make Baker wrestle Raypole in the 2nd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towelboy08 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I understand that this is sort of an oddity, but I think if you really try to separate the top two kids, it would be really unfortunate to make Baker wrestle Raypole in the 2nd round. Couldnt agree with you more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Wrestle off matches dont count towards seeding. Baker should be the 4th seed. This is how every other tournament is ran when there is a replacement for a seeded wrestler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Wrestle off matches dont count towards seeding. Baker should be the 4th seed. This is how every other tournament is ran when there is a replacement for a seeded wrestler. I am not saying that the wrestle off counts, and I am not even saying this is the way it should go tomorrow. But I think it is a fair argument that had Baker been the one put in at the seeding meeting, he would have , without a doubt, been given the #2 seed, just like Busse. I think it is unfortunate if it happens any other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Easy solution... have the wrestleoff before the seeding meeting. I am sure coach faurote knows the rules for situations like this and knew it would create a big semifinal match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlevito Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Link and updates will be posted at the top of the board for today's tournament. Click the link below and scroll down to select a mat and watch the action live http://wellscountyvoice.com/index285.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munges Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Any updates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlevito Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Team scores heading into the championship round... Carroll 208 Bellmont 196.5 Homestead 158.5 The rest really don't matter right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munges Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 who all is in the finals for each team? Are there any updated brackets any where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1oldwrestler Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 103 - Bowman (H) over Krumlauf (D) 7-5 (Krumlauf was up late in the third and Bowman won it with two quick takedowns) 112 - Frane (D) over Poling ( Dec 119 - George (H) over Keuneke ( 9-7 in OT (Keuneke was up 5-0 going into the third and George took it to overtime and won) 125 - Poynter (D) over Rushing (H) Dec (Poynter is great on his feet) 130 - Nesbitt (EN) over Seeger (NH) 1-0 135 - Kryder (H) over Clark © 7-4 140 - Riecke (EN) over Faurote ( 8-3 (Faurote looked to be in a lot of pain, just couldn't wrestle the way he wanted to) 145 - Timmerman © over Francois (NH) 9-1 152 - Lefever © over Zurbrugg (NH) 14-4 160 - Lefever © over Mahlan ( Pin (Both Lefever twins and Timmerman are really tough. Definitely three guys that make each other better in the practice room) 171 - Hankenson ( over Enrietto © Second Period Pin (Big win for Bellmont) 189 - Raypole © over Short (N) 10-2 (Locks up the win for Carroll) 215 - Thatcher ( over Mills (H) Second Period Pin 285 - Meyer ( over McClure © First Period Pin (Meyer hits an absolutely filthy headlock after giving up the first takedown) Carroll beats Bellmont, big win for them. Oh, and everyone should check out the video feed posted above by littlevito, really good quality video and insightful commentary (surprising coming from Razo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munges Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Just started watching and heard that Carrol jsut wrapped it up. Congrats to the Chargers! Hope Faurote can get the pain under control for tourney time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munges Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Man Myers looked ticked for giving up that opening take down and made the other wrestler pay with that wicked headlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlevito Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Huge headlock...I felt it upstairs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munges Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 How did Baker look at #189 today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlevito Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Not impressed. Busse is still the man at that weight in my eyes. Wrestle offs are a whole lot different than outcomes in competition. They wrestle each other day in and day out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munges Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Not impressed. Busse is still the man at that weight in my eyes. Wrestle offs are a whole lot different than outcomes in competition. They wrestle each other day in and day out. Brandon you have wrestled for coach Faurote. Would he just make the call and say Busse your our guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlevito Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Definitely comes down to the winner of the wrestle off for the sectional spot. But line up changes are always a possibility dual meet wise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
towelboy08 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 After its all said and done today, i wanted to say kudos to Brooks Faurote. Wrestled awesome all day with basically one hand. Clearly the hand bothering him in the finals but still pushed the pace and kept going after it. Great wrestler and an even better kid, wish him the best luck in the upcoming weeks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y grapple at all Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Tell me about Faurote at 140.....lost 10-1 (or something close to that) by some kid - East Noble??. His forearm was clearly bandaged and he looked hesitant on the mat. I've heard that he had a surgical procedure done earlier the day before. That sucks and I hate it for him. I hope that he has a full recovery. Does that change the next several weekends and Ft Wayne semi-state bracket? Thoughts....?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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