NickS Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I mainly watched the big school mat so here are some recaps Does anyone else see the irony? ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justdo^it135 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Does anyone else see the irony? ;D Wahoo for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 15, 2010 Author Share Posted March 15, 2010 Indiana 33, Illinois Team Reagan 21 103: Zach Stevens, Merrillville High School, IN Maj. Dec. Louis Sansone, Rockford East High School, IL Score 11-0 112: Logan Randle, Huntington North High School, IN Dec. Jake Schramm, Hinsdale South High School, IL Score 6-3 119: Joe Schwartz, Highland Park High School, IL Maj. Dec. Daniel Bradley, Knox High School, IN Score 12-2 125: Anthony Napules, Merrillville High School, IN Maj. Dec. Christ Divito, Montini Catholic High School, IL Score 14-3 130: Colton Rasche, Montini Catholic High School, IL Maj. Dec. Shawn Miracle, Bloomington North High School, IN Score 15-5 130: Exhibition Jordan East, Southport High School, IN Dec. Luke Standley, Petersburg Porta High School, IL Score 7-5 135: Eric Powell, Montini Catholic High School, IL Dec. Nathan McTigue, Delphi High School, IN Score 9-2 140: Justin Beck, Leo High School, IN Maj. Dec. Luke Nelson, Brother Rice High School, IL Score 12-3 145: Zach Langloss, Petersburg Porta High School, IL Maj. Dec. Dalton Sparks, Peru High School, IN Score 16-7 152: Zach Corpe, Elkhart Memorial High School, IN Dec. Joey Moorhouse, Marengo High School, IL Score 7-5 160: Cameron Vlahos, Lafayette Harrison High School, IN Won by Fall JJ Cannon, Plano High School, IL Fall 1:19 171: Taylor Schuck, Burlington Central High School, IL Dec. Jacob Hownstein, Zionsville High School, IN Score 4-2 189: Braden Atwood, Delphi High School, IN Won by Fall Cody Flynn, G.C.-Melvin-Sibley High School, IL Fall 1:52 215: David Vinton, Prairie Ridge High School, IL Dec. Evan Wooding, Mooresville High School, IN Score 8-4 285: James Travis, Merrillville High School, IN Dec. Jake Peterson, Polo High School, IL Score 8-4 Illinois Team Lincoln 35, Indiana 18 103: Kevin Malarick, Stagg High School, IL Dec. Dylan Hall, Evansville Harrison High School, IN Score 10-4 112: Paul Beck, Mishawaka High School, IN Won by Fall Alex Jones, Wilmington High School, IL Fall 1:46 119: Logan Arlis, Batavia High School, IL Dec. Brandon Nelsen, Lawrence North High School, IN Score 3-2 125: Josh Katz, Deerfield High School, IL Dec. Derek Bevans, Yorkstown High School, IN Score 3-2 130: Keith Surber, O'Fallon High School, IL Won by Fall Nick Schrader, Mishawaka High School, IN Fall 3:52 130: Exhibition David Hanley, Coal City High School, IL Pinned Andy Franklin, Homestead High School, IN Fall 4:27 135: Matt Leibforth, Lemont High School, IL Maj. Dec. Trey Grayson, Lafayette-Jeff High School, IN Score 8-0 140: Guy Kirby, G.C.-Melvin-Sibley High School, IL Dec. Francisco Porras, Hobart High School, IN Score 3-1 145: Pat Greco, Marmion Academy High School, IL Dec. Patrick Robinson, Hamilton Southeastern High School, IN Score 5-4 152: Luke Miller, Barrington High School, IL Dec. Sam Bennett, Anderson Highland High School, IN Score 10-4 160: Zac McCray, Garrett High School, IN Won by Fall Joe Strocchia, Hinsdale Central High School, IL Fall 3:09 171: Michael Duckworth, Union County High School, IN Dec. Andy Spangler, Neuqua Valley High School, IL Score 6-4OT 189: Ben Brooks, Oak Park-River Forest High School, IL Dec. Michael Johnson-Jones, Warren Central High School, IN Score 9-7 OT 215: Matt Dwyer, Rockton Hononegah High School, IL Maj. Dec. Dylan Froehlich, Tell City High School, IN Score 10-0 285: Ross Janney, Yorktown High School, IN Dec. Angel Cabral, Lemont High School, IL Score 6-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Does anyone else see the irony? ;D Considering that his wrestler was wrestling against a kid in that match up? Had McMurray wrestled in this event, and McCray wrestled the small school side of the meet, wouldn't you guess that Joe's attention might have been more to that side of the meet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1oldwrestler Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I went to this match for the first time and it was a great event. My son and I were talking on the way home and we thought it would be cool to see how IN champs (not just seniors) stacked up against the individual class champs in IL. I think IN champs would win 10 or 11 matches against the IL 1A champs. I thinks IN would win 8 or 9 matches against IL 2A champs and I think IN would win 4 or 5 matches against IL 3A champs. Totally hypothetical but good discussion for entertainment purposes until my son fell asleep half way home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstemv81 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Indiana usually wins the small school A Division matches. That's because Illinois is limited (obviously) to the smaller schools while Indiana puts up their next highest placer (a single-class state runnerup sometimes) from a single-class state meet. What Illinois has done here is screw their big school next highest placer (big class) in favor of the small school class champ. To recap, Illinois big school division beats Indiana single class champs fair and square but higher quality Indiana placers win against Illinois smaller school division against kids who may or may not deserve to be there, while other Illinois kids get left home. Law of unintended consequences. Just say no to class wrestling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1oldwrestler Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Indiana usually wins the small school A Division matches. That's because Illinois is limited (obviously) to the smaller schools while Indiana puts up their next highest placer (a single-class state runnerup sometimes) from a single-class state meet. What Illinois has done here is screw their big school next highest placer (big class) in favor of the small school class champ. To recap, Illinois big school division beats Indiana single class champs fair and square but higher quality Indiana placers win against Illinois smaller school division against kids who may or may not deserve to be there, while other Illinois kids get left home. Law of unintended consequences. Just say no to class wrestling! Not so sure you're entirely correct. I think in a perfect world, what you describe would be accurate but I don't think many deserving kids got left home on the IL side. I was speaking with an IL dad and he said some of the senior champs and high placers in AAA didn't sign up so it seems like most (if not all) kids who deserved and wanted to go were there. From IN, Brandon Wright wasn't there either so it happens all over. To me it kind of seemed like a glorified JV match from the perspective that A, AA and AAA kids from IL were on both mats. Logan Randle beat a AAA 4th placer on the small school mat and Frank Porras lost to a Class A champ on the bigh school mat. I say JV match because it seemed like the coaches got together and really tried to put on a good display of wrestling (it certainly wasn't JV caliber wrestling!). That could be wrong on my part, it just seemed that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 Here is the breakdown on who was favored based on their state placement and who won. Overall Favored Indiana Won Illinois won IN 8 2 6 IL 14 5 9 Even 6 5 1 28 12 16 A Favored Indiana Won Illinois won IN 3 2 1 IL 9 4 5 Even 2 2 0 14 8 5 AA Favored Indiana Won Illinois won IN 5 0 5 IL 5 1 4 Even 4 3 1 You also must realize data either way in this meet must take into effect that this is an offseason and relaxed meet. Weigh-ins were liberal and most kids did not train as hard for this as they would Fargo or their respective state finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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