maligned Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) This is normally a standard topic during state finals week. I haven't seen much discussion of it. We know that history says about 4 to 7 guys who got 4th last week will beat a semi-state champ. See here for detailed history of bracket expectations: http://indianamat.com/index.php/topic/47681-bracket-data-what-5-years-of-info-says-about-what-will-happen-this-weekend/ Who are your Top 3 possible 4's over 1's? I'll take these: 113: Johnson over Wright I love Wright, and if he gets past this, I think he could surprise and give the Annakin/Slivka winner fits. But Johnson's already won 2 of 3 in this series this year and Wright took the last one. You know that means Johnson's out for revenge and has no pressure as the #4 seed. 126: Dilbeck over Mejia Evansville was very strong at this weight while FW had a lot of good wrestlers--but no genuine contenders. Dilbeck is not a standard #4. 285: Fleck over Samuels Upsets abound at this weight and every year an EMD guy with no business winning gets a first round or quarterfinal upset. Lehman/Pruitt at 152 will also be very interesting in that regard, but I'll guess Fleck gets it done here. Edited February 17, 2016 by maligned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Humble Jr. Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 I could see Fort Wayne with no placers at several weights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novice Bat Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 195 Kolby Ferris vs Kurtis Wilderman. Last time was a 7-5 win for Wilderman at team state. Ferris leading for most of match before giving up late takedown and backs. My pick for most likely 4 over 1 upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCardinal141 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) I could see Fort Wayne with no placers at several weights Is this a serious statement? Maybe 2 or 3 weights top, but I don't know if that constitutes several. Possible 4 over 1 113: Johnson v. Wright (FW) 126: Dilbeck v. Mejia (FW) 145: Cowan v. McIntosh 160: Kasch v. Whitaker 170: Goerig v. Walton – I only say this because Goerig had a nice state run last year and pulled an upset or two at Banker’s Life 182: Hankenson v. Damler 285: McWilliams v. Perkins Edited February 17, 2016 by BigCardinal141 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardMowery Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Is this a serious statement? Maybe 2 or 3 weights top, but I don't know if that constitutes several. Possible 4 over 1 113: Johnson v. Wright (FW) 126: Dilbeck v. Mejia (FW) 145: Cowan v. McIntosh 160: Kasch v. Whitaker 170: Goerig v. Walton – I only say this because Goerig had a nice state run last year and pulled an upset or two at Banker’s Life 182: Hankenson v. Damler 285: McWilliams v. Perkins Whitaker will be very very tough to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
800lbs Gorilla Mama Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Is this a serious statement? Maybe 2 or 3 weights top, but I don't know if that constitutes several. Possible 4 over 1 113: Johnson v. Wright (FW) 126: Dilbeck v. Mejia (FW) 145: Cowan v. McIntosh 160: Kasch v. Whitaker 170: Goerig v. Walton – I only say this because Goerig had a nice state run last year and pulled an upset or two at Banker’s Life 182: Hankenson v. Damler 285: McWilliams v. Perkins Walton and Whitaker will be tough to beat. I have watched both this year wrestle many matches. They look ready for State to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCardinal141 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Just said it's a possibility - if I had to bet money, I would choose the 1 in all but maybe one of these matches. I just tried to go through the brackets and find the closest match-ups based on ranking and/or record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogleg Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 This is normally a standard topic during state finals week. I haven't seen much discussion of it. We know that history says about 4 to 7 guys who got 4th last week will beat a semi-state champ. See here for detailed history of bracket expectations: http://indianamat.com/index.php/topic/47681-bracket-data-what-5-years-of-info-says-about-what-will-happen-this-weekend/ Who are your Top 3 possible 4's over 1's? I'll take these: 113: Johnson over Wright I love Wright, and if he gets past this, I think he could surprise and give the Annakin/Slivka winner fits. But Johnson's already won 2 of 3 in this series this year and Wright took the last one. You know that means Johnson's out for revenge and has no pressure as the #4 seed. Johnson may be the actual favorite to win this match. I think he beat Wright fairly easily the two times he won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GratefulRobb Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Possible... 113~Johnson over Wright 113~Mosconi over White 120~Hunt over Langeloh 126~Dilbeck over Mejia 126~Loos over Torres 132~Elpers over Black 152~Lehman over Pruitt 160~Bublick over Garman 170~Davis over Samuels 182~Hankenson over Damler 195~Davis over Kleimola 195~Vakalahi over Maddox 285~McWilliams over Perkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RegionRoyalty Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Possible... 113~Johnson over Wright 113~Mosconi over White 120~Hunt over Langeloh 126~Dilbeck over Mejia 126~Loos over Torres 132~Elpers over Black 152~Lehman over Pruitt 160~Bublick over Garman 170~Davis over Samuels 182~Hankenson over Damler 195~Davis over Kleimola 195~Vakalahi over Maddox 285~McWilliams over Perkins No chance on the ones I've highlighted. The others I would all say are possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
statechamp87 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 None at 106? The class that is "wide open" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpunkyPotato Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 None at 106? The class that is "wide open" There aren't a ton. There are only 3-5 wrestlers that can contend for that title but do look out for Trey McCartney from Laff Harrison. Kid is a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Humble Jr. Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Is this a serious statement? Maybe 2 or 3 weights top, but I don't know if that constitutes several. Possible 4 over 1 113: Johnson v. Wright (FW) 126: Dilbeck v. Mejia (FW) 145: Cowan v. McIntosh 160: Kasch v. Whitaker 170: Goerig v. Walton – I only say this because Goerig had a nice state run last year and pulled an upset or two at Banker’s Life 182: Hankenson v. Damler 285: McWilliams v. Perkins By several I meant anywhere from 1-4 weights. And that's very possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munges Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Baumgartner and Goddard went into OT the first time they wrestled. Could this be a possibility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironbear Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 145lbs Cowan is the bracket buster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novice Bat Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Baumgartner and Goddard went into OT the first time they wrestled. Could this be a possibility? From where I was sitting on Saturday, it appears Goddard suffered a pretty serious looking knee injury. It could very easily hurt his chances this weekend at medaling. I hope not, great kid and great athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munges Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 From where I was sitting on Saturday, it appears Goddard suffered a pretty serious looking knee injury. It could very easily hurt his chances this weekend at medaling. I hope not, great kid and great athlete. That is too bad, I hate to see anyone get hurt heading into state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCardinal141 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 By several I meant anywhere from 1-4 weights. And that's very possible. I've never really considered 1 to be several but that's alright. What four weights do you think are a possibility? You may be right, I just don't see it when I look through the brackets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Humble Jr. Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I've never really considered 1 to be several but that's alright. What four weights do you think are a possibility? You may be right, I just don't see it when I look through the brackets. okay sorry for saying several. I was thinking 113, 120, 126, 160. These are all possible but Im hoping FW brings it Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therearenonamesleft Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 okay sorry for saying several. I was thinking 113, 120, 126, 160. These are all possible but Im hoping FW brings it Saturday 120?! Langeloh and Glogouski are both fantastic wrestlers and Hunt isnt too bad himself. If they don't get someone out at 120 I would be incredibly surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCardinal141 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 okay sorry for saying several. I was thinking 113, 120, 126, 160. These are all possible but Im hoping FW brings it Saturday I think that is legit. You could make arguments there. Personally, I think Langeloh and Garman are heavy favorites, but anything can happen Friday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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