RegionRoyalty

A modern day Rick Monday.

There are already 60 plus kids(many top notch wrestlers) signed up from 3 different states with a week and a half to go.  This is Indiana's version of the Celtic/Midwest Classic.

With all due respect, isn't what sets the Celtic Elite and Midwest Classic apart as top flight tournaments is having one open division with no age groups?  Midwest Classic had 455 kids and Celtic Elite had 527 kids last year when I looked at Trackwrestling.  I appreciate a good advertisement as much as the next guy, but the comparison isn't exactly fair or accurate with 60 kids signed up across 5 different age groups and 15 weight classes per age group.

I like splitting my money between Tomasello and Nickal with these odds.  I'd consider some action on McKenna as well, but I don't think any of the other longshots pay out. 

Does something like this count in your list?  Wrestler A (senior) defeats Wrestler B (freshman)  Wrestler B goes on to win state as a Senior, Wrestler A never won a title.  Does that count as beating a State Champ?  Or does it have to be the same year they won it?

I would count it in your scenario.

Matt Hurford? He was unreal at Ellsworth and I was hoping to see him somewhere this year

Upper Iowa

http://upperiowaathletics.com/news/2015/11/20/WREST_1120152940.aspx?path=wrestling

I know Bam Lawrence has wins over Jacob Covaciu and Trent Pruitt in his career as well.

To take some of the subjectivity out of this debate..

Who has beaten the most State Champions in their high school career but did not win state?

I see a lot of guys mentioned above who were very good high school wrestlers with multiple state medals, but never beat anyone who won it all.  I think to be on the list you had to have beaten several guys who were good enough to win it all.  

I'll throw Aaron Sessa's name in the hat.  Wins over State Champions Brennan Cosgrove, Fernando Martinez, and Javier Salas in his career.

Who else?

Hook n Half,

The Region is so busy beating our own chest and patting ourselves on the back that we wrote a book about the history of Region wrestling to sell to the rest of the state about how good we are.... Oh wait, no we didn't. That was you and that book was about Evansville Mater Dei.

Speaking of the Mater Dei book, I'm surprised they even let you have sharp objects to write with in the geriatric ward.

Parham, are yours lower level?

Penn should not be in anybody's definition of the Region.

Depending who you ask, there's 2 definitions of the Region.

The first is the area known as the "Calumet Region".  This is Hammond, East Chicago, Whiting, Gary, Munster, Highland, Griffith.  You have to be an old school Region Rat to consider just this area the Region.

The "new school" definition of the Region includes pretty much all of Lake and Porter Counties.  This would expand the "old school" definition to include Lake Central, Crown Point, Hanover Central, Lowell, Merrillville, Hobart, Lake Station (aka Snake Nation), Portage, Valparaiso, Chesterton, Wheeler.

What?!  No Shaved Ice?!?!

I think the number one way to identify a Region wrestling fan is to look for the guys cheering for the winners on Saturday night..  

Updated original post with the Top 13.

On a side note, what did Bellmont do to upset the Bracket Gods?

6 state qualifiers and they'll be the underdog in 4 of the 6 on Friday night.

Based on this, it looks like it is really a 2 horse race between Brownsburg and Warren Central.  I would consider Brownsburg to be the slight favorites, but that said, their margin for error is very, very slim since you can see I've scored them with 6 semi-finalists.  Walton losing to Goering, or Damler losing to Hankenson on Friday night all but sinks Brownsburg's ship, as Warren appears to have 7 very winnable matches.  If Brownsburg does get 6 to the semis, I think that the 106 semifinal between Mills and Murphy decides the team title.

Here's how I have it scored, (without any bonus points)

Brownsburg: 94 points (without bonus)

Mills = 1st (22 points)

Weaver = 3rd (13 points)

Mulkey = 3rd (13 points)

B. Lee = 1st (22 points)

Walton = 3rd (13 points)

Damler = 4th (11 points)

McCormick = DNP (0 points)

Warren Central: 89 points (without bonus)

Murphy = 3rd (13 points)

Turner = 5th (8 points)

Culp = 7th (4 points)

McGhee = 6th (6 points)

McKinney = 2nd (18 points)

Pruitt = 2nd (18 points)

Goddard = DNP (0 points)

Tonte = 1st (22 points)

Penn: 71 points (without bonus)

Cavanaugh = 5th (8 points)

Slates = 6th (6 points)

Hildebrandt = 1st (22 points)

Prentice = 4th (11 points)

Swank = 6th (6 points)

Vakalahi = DNP (0 points)

Woods = 2nd (18 points)

Portage: 67 points (without bonus)

Poynter = 7th (4 points)

Torres = 3rd (13 points)

Rumph = DNP (0 points)

McIntosh = 4th (11 points)

Lawrence = 1st (22 points)

Cornejo= 4th (11 points)

Murillo = 6th (6 points)

Indianapolis Cathedral: 56 points (without bonus)

Walendzak = DNP (0 points)

Slivka = DNP (0 points)

Bailey = 2nd (18 points)

Rypel = 1st (22 points)

Stewart = 3rd (13 points)

Guhl = 8th (3 points)

Evansville Mater Dei: 51 points (without bonus)

Luigs = DNP (0 points)

N. Lee = 2nd (18 points)

J. Lee = 1st (22 points)

Lehman = DNP (0 points)

Wilderman = 4th (11 points)

Fleck = DNP (0 points)

Lowell: 48 points (without bonus)

Cummings = 1st (22 points)

Hughes = 1st (22 points)

James = 7th (4 points)

Merrillville: 44 points (without bonus)

DeLaPena = DNP (0 points)

Covaciu = 1st (22 points)

B. Streck = DNP (0 points)

S. Streck = 1st (22 points)

Perry Meridian: 41 points (without bonus)

Fair = 4th (11 points)

Brookbank = 7th (4 points)

Johnson = 5th (8 points)

Warren = 2nd (18 points)

Ridle = DNP (0 points)

Danville: 35 points (without bonus)

Hudkins = 1st (22 points)

Molloy = 3rd (13 points)

Lawrence North: 33 points (without bonus)

Castro = DNP (0 points)

Ri. Samuels = 7th (4 points)

Jones = 2nd (18 points)

Ro. Samuels = 4th (11 points)

Avon: 31 points (without bonus)

Garcia = 2nd (18 points)

Conley = DNP (0 points)

Cullen = DNP (0 points)

Clark = DNP (0 points)

Larson = 3rd (13 points)

Yorktown: 30 points (without bonus)

Curtis = 7th (4 points)

Hunt = DNP (0 points)

Rutter = DNP (0 points)

Laughlin = 3rd (13 points)

McCormick = 3rd (13 points)

Pier = DNP (0 points)

Tournament Scoring

2 team advancement points shall be scored for each match won in the champoinship bracket, except for the final first-place match. If a wrestler receives a bye in a round where at least one match is wrestled, he shall be awarded 2 advancement points for that bye if he wins his next match after the bye. 

1 team advancement point shall be scored for each match won in the consolation wrestlebacks, except for the final third, fifth, and seventh place matches. A wrestler who has received a bye in a consolation round where at least one match is wrestled shall receive one advancement point for that bye if he wins his next match after the bye. 

2 additonal points for each match won by default, disqualification, fall, or forfeit.
1 1/2 points for each match won by technical fall.
1 additional point for each match won by major decision.

Placement points:
Tournament scoring 8 places: 16-12-9-7-5-3-2-1

Individual placement points shall be awarded as soon as earned. Placement points already earned shall be deducted in case of forfeit (other than injury) or disqualification from the tournament. 

 In view of the rule requiring placement points to be added as soon as earned, placement points are added at the following junctures in a tournament scoring 8 places:
 

Win on Friday night: 1 point for 8th plus 2 points advancement and bonus

Championship quarterfinal winners: Add 6 points (has earned at least 4th place, already received 1 point for 8th place) plus 2 points advancement and bonus
Championship semifinal winners: Add 5 points (has earned at least 2nd place, already received 7 points for 4th place) plus 2 points advancement and bonus
Championship final winners: Add 4 points plus bonus

Consolation wrestleback winners: Add 2 points (has earned at least 6th place) plus 1 point consolation advancement and bonus

Winner of final for 7-8: Add 1 point plus bonus

Winner of final for 5-6: Add 2 points plus bonus

Winner of final for 3-4: Add 2 points plus bonus

Possible...

 

113~Johnson over Wright 

113~Mosconi over White

120~Hunt over Langeloh

126~Dilbeck over Mejia

126~Loos over Torres

132~Elpers over Black

152~Lehman over Pruitt

160~Bublick over Garman

170~Davis over Samuels

182~Hankenson over Damler

195~Davis over Kleimola

195~Vakalahi over Maddox

285~McWilliams over Perkins

No chance on the ones I've highlighted.  The others I would all say are possible.

Caleb Spires!

So one should not stop for coffee at the Dunkin' Donuts by the school...even the drive thru?? Can the Uber drivers be trusted to get us to lunch?

Should be alright at the Dunkin..  I certainly wouldn't get into any strangers cars though!

Seems to be a little stronger year for Logansport regional...

I'll set the Over/Under of SQ from Logansport regional at 10...

Who's taking which side?

Couple of tips for you out of towners...

Don't stop to ask for directions and don't come to a complete stop at red lights and stop signs!

My vote is for Karl "Squints" Hungus.

If what I have heard is true, this is a shame. Potentially one of Indiana's finest never to win state.

On the same token, I hope it's not true and wish the best for Paul.

Man,  You and the Troll must live right next to each other.   Must be something in the water up there.

 

You pay money so you should be able to boo who ever you want?  You might want to think this one threw a little more!

Should I think it through or threw?