sparky

carmel didn't look their best, first match for the football players and the lineup was off due to injuries and illness but still a good dual... 130 Bell (LN) maj dec Flores © 135 Watson © dec Johnson (LN) 140 Rattay (LN) dec Scurria © 145 ? © dec ?? 152 Frascella © pin ?? 160 Anderson © 171 LN over Carmel 189 Morris © pin 215 Yoder © pin 285 Hollander © pin 103 Sparks (LN) pin Simmons © 112 Boston (LN) dec Parham © 119 LN dec Rokop © 125 Nelson (LN) dec Sommers © sorry don't remember everyone at all the weights, lots of shifting and filling in maybe someone can help with the blanks??

103 Car by forfeit 112 Leb dec Car 119 Leb pin Car 125 Car maj dec Leb 130 Car dec Leb 135 Car maj dec Leb 140 Car dec Leb 145 Car dec leb 152 Car dec Leb 160 Car dec Leb 171 Car dec Leb 189 Leb dec Car 215 Car maj dec Leb Hwt Leb pin Car

Roncalli was looking very solid early on then seemed to struggle in the final medal rounds, but it's still very early in the year...given the results of the head-to-head matches between them and Carmel throughout the day it would an interesting dual especially when Carmel has their football upper weights back in the line-up

most kids at D1's earn some real scholarship money after they earn a starting spot with some exceptions for the top 10 and remember a wrestling scholarship can be split as low as around $100 to call a kid on scholarship... I would be very surprised to ever see him as a starter and he's a pretty small 152 as well but good luck to him this season and beyond

103 Newkirk (LC) over King (Roncalli) 112 Parham (Carmel) over Davis (Roncalli) 119 Josh Kieffer (Roncalli) over Butts (LC) 125 Wright (WC) over Justin Kieffer (Roncalli) 130 Joe Kieffer (Roncalli) over Thomas (WC) 135 Watson (Carmel) over Grayson (Laf Jeff) 140 Scurria (Carmel) over Adrian Brown (Laf Jeff) 145 Decker (WC) over ?? 152 Frascella (Carmel) over Taylor (LC) 160 Anderson (Carmel) over Holt (ColNorth) 171 Bartley (Roncalli) inj default Ellis (Carmel) 189 Jones (WC) over ?? 215 Vince (LafJeff)? over Morris (Carmel) 285 ?? (WC) over Massengale (Roncalli) Carmel won 5 of 7 in the championships with one inj default (possible broken ankle) and one who werstled up in weight as well. Warren Central winner at 285 was their 215 who weighed 209, great matchup. Wright over Keiffer was a great match, Wright looked very good all day. Carmel also forfeited at 103 and was missing their upper weights due to football.

103 Newkirk (LC) over King (Roncalli) 112 Parham (Carmel) over Davis (Roncalli) 119 Josh Kieffer (Roncalli) over Butts (LC) 125 Wright (WC) over Justin Kieffer (Roncalli) 130 Joe Kieffer (Roncalli) over Thomas (WC) 135 Watson (Carmel) over Grayson (Laf Jeff) 140 Scurria (Carmel) over Adrian Brown (Laf Jeff) 145 Decker (WC) over ?? 152 Frascella (Carmel) over Taylor (LC) 160 Anderson (Carmel) over Holt (ColNorth) 171 Bartley (Roncalli) inj default Ellis (Carmel) 189 Jones (WC) over ?? 215 Vince (LafJeff)? over Morris (Carmel) 285 ?? (WC) over Massengale (Roncalli) Carmel won 5 of 7 in the championships with one inj default (possible broken ankle) and one who werstled up in weight as well. Warren Central winner at 285 was their 215 who weighed 209, great matchup. Wright over Keiffer was a great match, Wright looked very good all day. Carmel also forfeited at 103 and was missing their upper weights due to football.

there have been 2 more AA's thanks to the Indiana girls!!

Your interview with Hump got viewed enough on Flo that it was used to start a new thread on themat.com (college thread - Iow) and that thread has been viewed over 2500 times!! The more we get Indiana wresters (and coaches!!) out there the better it is. Great job on the interviews and hopefully we can get more matches posted on Flo from duals, fargo and so on

Great article?? Are you kidding? Not only is this old news but ESPN rehashes it to bring up the anything negative they can. Of all the wrestling stories going on about kids working hard and doing the right thing they only focus stories on severe weight cutting and now this porn thing. Both wrestlers involved are self-serving jerks and the last thing this sport should do is give them any more attention. You want good story check out Adam Frey...

We don't spend enough time on either. Just look at the duals to see the proof. Indiana wrestlers are better than they look at the duals but hardly any tournaments and such a short season doesn't allow for them to really develop the skills and techniques needed for the national stage.

IMO using Flo would be a better choice since it is a website designed to promote and support wrestling and the highlights/matches posted can and would be viewed by other wrestling fans outside the state. Nothing really wrong with YouTube we use it to view videos often but using Flo also reinforces their support of the wrestling community and you can set up a special page with video links as well for no cost.

Why is there a rule forbidding workouts with other high schools? What is the logic here, I ask because it's the first time I've ever seen such a rule. It seems that shared workouts with other local post season wrestlers would benefit them. I know in Iowa the local high schools organize practice sessions with the state qualifiers. Those who will be competiting against each other just don't work out together but usually they have already wrestled each other many times so it doesn't matter. Just curious as to when and why this rule was implemented.

My sons have wrestled in other state tournaments before moving to Indiana and maybe you should look at what other states are doing for a fresh perspective and ideas. First, have a podium and present the wrestlers their awards so parents have a photo op (would be nice to be able to send to local papers for additional coverage for the sport) instead of being handed a medal by whoever is at the table. The wrestlers work very hard and deserve to be recognized for their efforts and accomplishments. Second, at least a t-shirt instead of a coupon to buy one was an improvement but why not a state champion jacket as they do in Iowa the kids really are proud to wear that and again it promotes the sport. You get more than enough money to make these things happen with the $10 per card the state keeps, proceeds from all local tournaments, state tournament fees (that are so much higher than other states) it seems there is plenty and if not how about releasing access to the budget/finacials so parents can see what money comes in and where it goes out. For example, Indiana is bigger than Iowa and they have both AAU and USA state tournaments and no one buys cards for local tournaments since they are not affiliated with an organization and the school hosting the tournament keeps all of the tournament profit for their program. One more item, why are the officials required to volunteer? In other states they are paid for their work and in turn you get more officials, and when you treat officials as professionals you get professional behavior in response. Other states have 3 or 4 times the number of local tournments as are available here and they have no shortage of officials because more parents/coaches officiate as an extra income source. I don't know anything about HYWAY specifically but I do know what positive effects competition has on state organizations. The quality of wrestling is already there, the local clubs, coaches and wrestlers take there of that but the focus should be on improving the awareness of the sport. What about recording the finals at state and posting them on flowrestling for added exposure for Indiana wrestling? That wouldn't cost anything and we have some outstanding finals!

We had a very close friend whose son had injured his shoulder in junior high and had recurrent problems with it easily dislocating and each season for the next few years the dislocation occurred more frequently and more easily. During this time he would receive PT and worked very hard to avoid surgery. He too loved to wrestle too much...but after his sophomore year he realized that if he ever hoped to continue to wrestle in college he needed to take a season/year off and fully rehabilitate his shoulder. He did not have surgery but embarked on a consistent PT program with integrated weight training to strengthen the supporting points of the shoulder. Missing that year was very difficult for him, especially as he watched his brother and his team wrestle but he came back for his senior year stronger and pain free with an amazing fire to win and found himself at the top of the podium and he is now wrestling in college and has not dislocated his shoulder since. Every case is different and missing a year of a sport you love feels like forever at this age but as parents we know that a year is such a small part of their lifetime and even wrestling career. Best of luck to your family and definately get a few opinions from different doctors before going with surgery the other posts are correct.

they need to actually call stalling and get the matches moving there is nothing worse than watching a wrestler stall his ass off

The LN open mat is always filled with great wrestlers and an outstanding atmosphere, anyone who lives near them should definately get in that room every week. Weimer and the other coaches are great, thanks!

www.revwrestling.com is reporting that Cael has accepted the PSU job and will hold a team meeting today to announce it and this deal will make him the highest paid active wrestling coach...things could still change but it looks like a BIG announcement

Have any of you ever lived or coached in any of the other states you want to use as comparisons? For example, the comment that Iowa has more college wrestlers because their communities love wrestling more than basketball is silly. If you spent time in that state you would see that they support their teams pretty equally, basketball and football are extremely popular and are well attended. How about considering that these other states (Iowa, Illinois, Michigan, Ohio, Minnesota) do more to promote the sport from the youth level and this builds the community support and involevment that carries through to high school and college. For example, almost every high school in Iowa offers a youth club starting in Kindergarten and the season starts when the high school guys do and the high school coaches are involved. There is both AAU and USA bodies there and each runs a state tournament that requires the 8th grade and under to qualify for state, this is a big deal there and then at state the kids are crowned champions ON A PODIUM and receive state champion jackets that again promotes the sport. These other states have 10 times the opportunities for youth tournaments to keep kids excited, involved and learning. By the way, on the class issue, Iowa's 3 class system and wrestlebacks has obviously not watered down the competition it goes along with promoting from the youth level up. Class system is not perfect but neither is the one in place now, the difference is developing the youth no what happens on the class issue wrestlebacks would help immensely. Indiana hasn't even figured out how to recognize high school wrestlers for their efforts decently. Everyone wants to brag and go on about the high level of wrestling it takes to compete and advance in the current state sysem yet these guys who have busted their butts are recognized with some pathetic cheesy ribbon, give me a break!! It's practically a slap in the face or at least a joke no wonder guys that live near the borders compete in Illinois, Michigan and Ohio as much as possible and are more than ready to leave the state for college.

the Texas private schools have their own state, it's TAPS I think..also they go to National Preps and the argument there is that the private schools are eligible to compete anywhere they have the $$'s to get to and the public schools have a limit for travel

Just curious but when we lived in Texas the private schools with wrestling are not allowed to participate at high school state and I was was wondering if that was taken into account on Y2's state breakdown sheet? In reality there really are 2 classes in Texas with the exclusion of the private schools where the majority of college wrestlers seem to be from.

There is nothing wrong with 2 wrestlers who are close in weight to both challenge for the spot they feel would benefit them the most for the season. Many times have 2 wrestlers been very good friends but are close to the same weight, the coach and parents shold be encouraging them to wrestle off for the benefit of everyone. The winner gets the spot and the loser goes up a spot, no hard feelings and they should still be friends. Wrestling is an individual sport first always has always will be, sure team success is great if you are lucky enough to be a part of a good team but most wrestlers are not. Most wrestlers on most teams do not wrestle in the offseason and do not plan to wrestle beyond high school and there is nothing wrong with that, its just the truth. But for the wrestler that fell in love with this sport and works his butt off all year to get ready to compete at the next level he does that for himself, not his team not his school, himself...he stands alone!! While he cannot prepare without partners and coaches there are many opportunities to find those, camps, clinics, private clubs, RTC's, national competitions if they want it the opportunities are there and that is outside of their team and school. You can't tell me that it's a team sport first when the vast majority of wrestlers who excel push themselves to work harder and get better because they have an individual goal not a team goal. I don't think too many guys who are driving a couple of hours to get to different RTC sites, are paying for private clubs and lifting hard on the off-season are thinking to themselves that I should make these sacrifices to make my team better no they do it to make themselves better to stand on the top of the podium for the individual state title and if that helps his team then that is nice too

Jim and Jordin really are class acts who give so much to every kid they coach. Now that middle school season is over we will back on the mat with Humphrey and bringing about 10 more guys from our middle school along with us. We have been lucky to around some of the best youth coaches in the midwest and Humphrey is the only place in Indiana I would have by boys. Good Luck Reece!!!!

Just for comparison sake, take a look over at Iowa they have both USA and AAU state tournaments and both run a district qualifier and sure sometimes some districts are harder than others but that happens at every level. With district qualifiers there are equal numbers of wrestlers and a more manageable tournament where the winners can be rewarded with a podium for medal awards, wall charts and t-shirts. In fact, there each state champion also receives a chamion jacket as his/her award.

Just to add a little more information, Texas is one class however their governing body UIL does not allow private schools to compete so all of their religious and prep schools are not a part of the one class champion. Most of the better known wrestlers from Texas come out these private schools.

Carmel has a club up and going so they would be very close with great kids...CIA is only at Zionsville 1 night a week from what I have heard otherwise they are at cathedral...if you really want to look for outstanding coaches and technique check our Jim Humphrey, hands down the best around they go 4 times a week year round www.humphreywrestling.com