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It shows that year round trainging is the factor paying off more then any other factor. School size amoung other things do not corrilate nearly as much.

Also they always say they are using facts but what fact have they used to actually show that class wrestling is benificial to our wrestlers progress in the college level. We are pretty well where we should be maybe a little ahead. I want one cold hard fact that proves its good for the wrestler.

Downsides of class wrestling 1. More class systems will take away from the compitition at the state level. This especially hurts smaller schools with good individuals. Many of these teams can not schedule wrestling big schools because the team on a whole is not good enough competition. Thus some small school individuals only true competition comes in the state tournement. Cutting the talent to a quarter of the staters will hurt the college level wrestlers. 2. It doesn't help the people it claims to help. The supporters say there will be more exposure to small school wresters. If a wrestler is quality enough to wrestle at the college level the kids will either be sought out or the coaches should help to get the wrestlers name out it won't magically change because of class wrestling. I do understand kids may be staters as freshmen in weaker classes but that doesn't mean they are college quality. 3. They claim it will make wrestling numbers go up and smaller schools keep there programs. This may happen a little bit at the top of the smaller division but truth is these programs are already established. It will be the same for the bad programs and does not fix the system. 4. The supporters say there will be parity. States like ohio have bigger gaps then indiana has. 13 straight titles for the div I champs. 212 to 81 was the final score at state for the DII. Also the top three schools were 30 points ahead of the other teams at the DIII level. If it is not fair to wrestle bigger schools why would Y2 schedule them and wnat class tournements. If its not good for your team why do it? It makes no sense.

an actual topic I agree with. I think one thing we could do is have volunteers talk to communities about RTC's. Promoting the youth wrestling will improve Indiana more then anything.

Think about it by running this site he gets to pick the brains of the most powerful people in the wrestling community. Its the truth and I am tired of him pushing class wrestling.

Y2J controlls the most powerfull board in all of indiana highschool wrestling. I think it is agenda driven and believe that he has scewed facts. I may rant a bunch but truth is i see change a coming and want to make sure it doesn't change because we will never go back.

that better?

Fabio all you do is personally attack me. I am not that offensive I speak from my heart for my kids. I do not agree with class wrestling and I definatly do not agree with how Y2J has spoken about small schools.

I found it offensive.

You do not know me or my situation so do not cast judgement over me. Karl i am tired of you treating me like a second class person just because i do not agree with you.

That in no way says i hate small schools. If anything it says I respect what matre dei has done as a program and wished my own local program would work that hard.

They probably would win 20 state they beat everyone most years and with less competition might as well get the engraver heating up.

I think with the right programs they compete with everyone in the state like matre dei the best team in the state year in and year out. So do not change my words. I don't think our system is broke and matre dei delphi and yorktown prove that.

Quit camparing football to wrestling one is a team sport entirely the other has an individual aspect. The individual wrestler benifits from better competition thats why we shouldn't change it. You cut the wrestler in both classes competition down.

Is 24% actually good for the states competition? Did you just move matre dei and yorktown out of your division Y2? Trying to find anyway possible to win i see. You make me sick. Why downgrade individuals competition unless its to make yourslef look better