GrecoCoach

Ohio originally.
Fishers/Noblesville area when he moved to Indiana.

Fishers High School
Mitch Sliga
2x State Champ, 2x 3rd Place
5x Fargo National Champ
Jr World Team Member

Hoosier Crossroads Conference
Avon - 5
Brownsburg - 9
Fishers - 2
Franklin Central - 2
Noblesville - 2
Zionsville - 3
 
Total Qualifiers - 23
 
1st at Semi State - 7
2nd at Semi State - 7
3rd at Semi State - 6
4th at Semi State - 3

I agree that they are both very deep conferences.  The 2 schools in the HCC that didn't get a qualifier are Hamilton Southeastern and Westfield.  Both of those schools have solid, ranked, state-caliber wrestlers that just didn't get through semi state.

Hoosier Crossroads Conference
Avon - 5
Brownsburg - 9
Fishers - 2
Franklin Central - 2
Noblesville - 2
Zionsville - 3
 
Total Qualifiers - 23
 
1st at Semi State - 7
2nd at Semi State - 7
3rd at Semi State - 6
4th at Semi State - 3

Around 10 years ago, the NFHS changed/clarified the rule that allows coaches to default their wrestler at any time - even during recovery time.  Before that change, the only way to "do the right thing" would be to have the injured wrestler line up for the ref to blow the whistle then stop the match to default - which is even more dangerous for the injured wrestler.  It was a good rule change designed for rare situations exactly like this one.

Around 10 years ago, the NFHS changed/clarified the rule that allows coaches to default their wrestler at any time - even during recovery time.  Before that change, the only way to "do the right thing" would be to have the injured wrestler line up for the ref to blow the whistle then stop the match to default - which is even more dangerous for the injured wrestler.  It was a good rule change designed for rare situations exactly like this one.

Around 10 years ago, the NFHS changed/clarified the rule that allows coaches to default their wrestler at any time - even during recovery time.  Before that change, the only way to "do the right thing" would be to have the injured wrestler line up for the ref to blow the whistle then stop the match to default - which is even more dangerous for the injured wrestler.  It was a good rule change designed for rare situations exactly like this one.

Around 10 years ago, the NFHS changed/clarified the rule that allows coaches to default their wrestler at any time - even during recovery time.  Before that change, the only way to "do the right thing" would be to have the injured wrestler line up for the ref to blow the whistle then stop the match to default - which is even more dangerous for the injured wrestler.  It was a good rule change designed for rare situations exactly like this one.

Around 10 years ago, the NFHS changed/clarified the rule that allows coaches to default their wrestler at any time - even during recovery time.  Before that change, the only way to "do the right thing" would be to have the injured wrestler line up for the ref to blow the whistle then stop the match to default - which is even more dangerous for the injured wrestler.  It was a good rule change designed for rare situations exactly like this one.

Around 10 years ago, the NFHS changed/clarified the rule that allows coaches to default their wrestler at any time - even during recovery time.  Before that change, the only way to "do the right thing" would be to have the injured wrestler line up for the ref to blow the whistle then stop the match to default - which is even more dangerous for the injured wrestler.  It was a good rule change designed for rare situations exactly like this one.

When has the IHSAA ever made a decision based on "logic"?

Oh no!  Hopefully this doesn't become BracketGate2024 🤪

Oh no!  Hopefully this doesn't become BracketGate2024 🤪

I just want to clarify what is being proposed here...
If a wrestler asks the ref to stop or pause the match for the 1st injury time, then choice of position is given to the opponent.  But if a wrestler is trying to keep going and the ref notices a possible injury so the match is stopped to check on the wrestler and that results in the 1st injury time, then no choice of position is given.  The difference is who initiates the injury time to be taken - the wrestler or the ref.
 
I can agree with it used like this.  But I don't agree with automatically giving choice on the first injury time for high school kids.

I just want to clarify what is being proposed here...
If a wrestler asks the ref to stop or pause the match for the 1st injury time, then choice of position is given to the opponent.  But if a wrestler is trying to keep going and the ref notices a possible injury so the match is stopped to check on the wrestler and that results in the 1st injury time, then no choice of position is given.  The difference is who initiates the injury time to be taken - the wrestler or the ref.
 
I can agree with it used like this.  But I don't agree with automatically giving choice on the first injury time for high school kids.

I just want to clarify what is being proposed here...
If a wrestler asks the ref to stop or pause the match for the 1st injury time, then choice of position is given to the opponent.  But if a wrestler is trying to keep going and the ref notices a possible injury so the match is stopped to check on the wrestler and that results in the 1st injury time, then no choice of position is given.  The difference is who initiates the injury time to be taken - the wrestler or the ref.
 
I can agree with it used like this.  But I don't agree with automatically giving choice on the first injury time for high school kids.

I wouldn't be surprised if the AI thinks Bellmont and Belmont are two different schools and not combining their successes.  How is it supposed to know that half the state can't spell the school correctly?

I wouldn't be surprised if the AI thinks Bellmont and Belmont are two different schools and not combining their successes.  How is it supposed to know that half the state can't spell the school correctly?

Top wrestler is rewarded by not giving up an escape point.  If you can get away in less than a minute and your opponent can't, then you're a point ahead.
 
I'd treat the pinning combination like when refs wait to award nearfall until the hold is released.  If someone has gotten a turn (or more), then he is most likely ahead in points.  From a fan perspective, I'd prefer to see them back on their feet for a more exciting finish instead of the guy ahead just riding him out for the win.

We could make it simpler and create more action if...
 
When a wrestler gets on top (takedown, reversal, or start of 2nd/3rd period), the clock starts - always starts from zero.  After 1 minute, if not in a pinning situation/hold, stop the match and start them in neutral with no escape point.  This basically gives the "point" advantage to the one who rides for a minute straight.  And it allows both wrestlers the same chance for it in 2nd/3rd period.  More neutral helps create more action, but still rewards those who can ride and punishes those who can't get out on bottom.

We could make it simpler and create more action if...
 
When a wrestler gets on top (takedown, reversal, or start of 2nd/3rd period), the clock starts - always starts from zero.  After 1 minute, if not in a pinning situation/hold, stop the match and start them in neutral with no escape point.  This basically gives the "point" advantage to the one who rides for a minute straight.  And it allows both wrestlers the same chance for it in 2nd/3rd period.  More neutral helps create more action, but still rewards those who can ride and punishes those who can't get out on bottom.

Top wrestler is rewarded by not giving up an escape point.  If you can get away in less than a minute and your opponent can't, then you're a point ahead.
 
I'd treat the pinning combination like when refs wait to award nearfall until the hold is released.  If someone has gotten a turn (or more), then he is most likely ahead in points.  From a fan perspective, I'd prefer to see them back on their feet for a more exciting finish instead of the guy ahead just riding him out for the win.

The match at 152 is the only finals match that does not include a wrestler from Brownsburg, Center Grove, or Crown Point.
 
Even more interesting, in all the other 13 finals matches, Brownsburg, Center Grove, and Crown Point never wrestle each other head to head.

The match at 152 is the only finals match that does not include a wrestler from Brownsburg, Center Grove, or Crown Point.
 
Even more interesting, in all the other 13 finals matches, Brownsburg, Center Grove, and Crown Point never wrestle each other head to head.