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    gsmith58 reacted to teammills in What do we do about it?   
    I'd watch... 😃
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    gsmith58 got a reaction from indypharmd in What do we do about it?   
    I agree with the majority of your post. But, I do, however, know from simple observation, anecdotal as it may be, kids and parents do get humiliated and upset. We've all seen blow-ups at youth tourneys; getting tossed around by another human being is a pretty personal thing. And, not every parent grew up as a wrestler or even an athlete; nor do they all have the "fight through it" mental model.
    Having that life experience is good thing, and I am absolutely on point with you, but the gist here was about about retention and keeping them around so they learn that focus. I certainly know every kid has to go through it, all I am saying is when it happens they need more attention and awareness than the better or more experienced kids. And it doesn't always happen. And, retention in any context is built one person at a time.
    As an example, we both watch and admire coach Red and his remarkable energy. That guy makes it a point to get around to every kid in that room every single day (and nearly every drill or go). Every one of them gets a personal conversation and a little of his "love." He's a great example of what I mean.
     
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    gsmith58 reacted to riley bettich in What do we do about it?   
    AGREED
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    gsmith58 reacted to Galagore in What do we do about it?   
    Totally agree with this post, and this is why I would like to see the wrestling community undergo a shift in mindset toward mat time at the youth level and away from crowning champions. Heck, you could even do pooled groups, wrestle round-robin, and still give the undefeated kid a medal at the end of the day...but allowing the struggling kids to wrestle other struggling kids is important for retention, growth, and learning of the sport overall. It is just as important as having the gifted kids wrestle other gifted kids...even if it's just one match out of the day.
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    gsmith58 got a reaction from base in What do we do about it?   
    To the retention point it would seem to me  2 to 5 youth athletes a year could be doable. I can think of a couple things that might help. I've noticed in multiple setting (clubs, camps, rooms, academies, tourneys, duals) that the lesser kids don't get the attention that the more experienced and gifted kids get. Hardly insightful, but I think its important if were talking about a handful of kids. I am not saying they are being ignored and getting no attention. What I am saying is they and their parents need 'way more' encouragement and 'way more' attention than the better more experienced kids.
    I know that is not natural in any sport, but I can't think of many sports that can be more difficult and "humiliating" for beginners and their parents. I can't tell you how many times I have had to talk first and second year (and sometime later) parents off the cliff during a tourney because some up and coming academy wizard took down, cut, took down, cut, etc, etc. their 11 year old beginner son. Its darn hard for everyone those first couple of years. That in itself does not encourage retention.
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    gsmith58 got a reaction from Galagore in What do we do about it?   
    To the retention point it would seem to me  2 to 5 youth athletes a year could be doable. I can think of a couple things that might help. I've noticed in multiple setting (clubs, camps, rooms, academies, tourneys, duals) that the lesser kids don't get the attention that the more experienced and gifted kids get. Hardly insightful, but I think its important if were talking about a handful of kids. I am not saying they are being ignored and getting no attention. What I am saying is they and their parents need 'way more' encouragement and 'way more' attention than the better more experienced kids.
    I know that is not natural in any sport, but I can't think of many sports that can be more difficult and "humiliating" for beginners and their parents. I can't tell you how many times I have had to talk first and second year (and sometime later) parents off the cliff during a tourney because some up and coming academy wizard took down, cut, took down, cut, etc, etc. their 11 year old beginner son. Its darn hard for everyone those first couple of years. That in itself does not encourage retention.
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    gsmith58 reacted to Galagore in What do we do about it?   
    I agree that the best usually come from that group. What happens, though if we create an environment that allows for more growth at the youth level? Would we be able to increase the number of kids who identify themselves as wrestlers? That really is the key. When a kid looks in the mirror and sees a wrestler, that's when we keep them. And it doesn't really matter if they're great, average, or even not very good. They keep with it because it is part of who they are. I have seen plenty of kids who play basketball until high school is over, and are never very good. They just see basketball as part of their identity. If we open the door to more kids getting more mat time at the youth level, maybe we will get more wrestlers of all levels, which is necessary for the long-term health of the sport.
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    gsmith58 got a reaction from indianmorg in CP on its way.   
    It appears to me their JV is going to be a Top 20.
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    gsmith58 got a reaction from Sig40 in CP on its way.   
    It appears to me their JV is going to be a Top 20.
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    gsmith58 got a reaction from bwoodjc89 in Top Middle School Wrestlers 2018/2019   
    I can say without any hesitation, Kyle would win well over 30 matches as a 106 right now. He is going to be a beast in High School.
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    gsmith58 got a reaction from bwoodjc89 in Top Middle School Wrestlers 2018/2019   
    You need to be promoting that Dillon Graham kid instead of monkeying around promoting Freshman. Seems that Graham kid has beaten several of the kids that made the list.
    On a related note have you seen the size of Mr. Ocampo? He used to be in my son's weight class for years. He's a tad bigger these days
     
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    gsmith58 got a reaction from bwoodjc89 in NFHS looking to reduce weight classes   
    Petition to the NFHS: NFHS Petition Against the Change to 12 Classes
     
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    gsmith58 reacted to bwoodjc89 in Let's shake things up--new rules ideas   
    What are the main issues we are trying to resolve in Indiana high school wrestling? Rules changes should be directed towards fixing those issues. Reducing FF by removing opportunities seems like it is contrary to growing the sport of wrestling.
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    gsmith58 got a reaction from bwoodjc89 in Let's shake things up--new rules ideas   
    No, I wouldn't want that. It is what it is. I think your proposed jump is too drastic, and would simply reallocate, what you perceive, as 'unfairness.' I thought wrestling prided itself on being a level playing field where the outliers could compete.
    While there are no doubt a number of very good upperclass wrestlers sitting because of circumstances (Brownsburg, Perry, Mater Dei, etc), I would bet they're a number sitting simply because they have not put in the time and effort that their varsity counterpart has. 
    I am only pointing out it depends on your perspective, and asking you to recognize there are a number, not just my son, of smaller underclass wrestlers that have some talent, have put in as much, if not more, time and effort, and are equally deserving as any upperclass backup. And, I'm pretty certain that if one could to equalize weight, Cernus and Cotty could compete with, say, the HWT finalists.
    As far as cutting, you and I are of like mind, but I don't see that changing anytime soon.
     
     
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    gsmith58 got a reaction from bwoodjc89 in Let's shake things up--new rules ideas   
    I have a small 106 son and so I'm, admittedly, biased and a bit prickly about this. Being that he's in a room(s) year-round, I'd sure like the idea of my son being able to compete against kids 'nearly' his size before he's a senior. 
    Not that I think it's a swell idea, but couldn't we apply this logic and similar 'generalization' to the heavyweight class?
     
     
     
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    gsmith58 reacted to Coach Coop in Let's shake things up--new rules ideas   
    4 point near fall
    3 point take down
    2nd injury time = 1 point and choice (too many kids using injury time as a break, and simply giving them the choice to go on bottom is not always beneficial)
    Allowing teams to enter more than 1 kid per weight at sectionals and individual tournaments ( would have to cap it at a certain #)
     
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    gsmith58 reacted to Coach Seltzer in Let's shake things up--new rules ideas   
    I would like to see a riding point. 
    If you ride a wrestler out for an entire period, 1pt will be added. You can only earn 1pt in a match. No need for riding time clock. 
    A wrestler should be rewarded for a ride out. Most of the time the are called for stalling at some point. 
     
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    gsmith58 reacted to BClark in Let's shake things up--new rules ideas   
    1) 100% agree on the step out
    2) First injury time used when opponent has not been called for an illegal move = opponent gets choice. Second time wrestler must withdraw. Stops (hopefully)wrestler from using injury time to recover and if a wrestler is that injured he must stop the match twice, probably shouldn’t be in there. 
    3) I’m good with a 4 point near fall and a 3 point takedown. Keep rewarding offensive wrestling 
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    gsmith58 reacted to davecloud in Let's shake things up--new rules ideas   
    OK, time to play rules czar for a day. What rule/rule change would you propose to make the sport better? To save everyone some time, there will probably NEVER be one foot in bounds for a takedown. The safety concerns from the NFHS will always trump added benefit from more scoring at the edge. With many gyms having inadequate space, it would be difficult to have a uniformly enforced rule. Here is my proposal:
    Four point near-fall after a four count. 
    Rationale: More scoring equal more excitement. Also, easy to understand: two count in danger equals two points, four count equals four points. More reward for scoring should encourage more mat wrestling leading to fewer out of bounds situations, speeding up matches. Also, bigger scoring opportunity could lead to more comebacks from deficits. Ideally, faster matches might even lead to NFHS someday approving six match limit instead of five. A 16 man bracket with full wrestlebacks to third could then be done in one day.
    Let's hear your thoughts on this and your ideas for a rule addition/change. New proposal period for wrestling rules opens June 1, 2019
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    gsmith58 reacted to Kookie953 in Let's shake things up--new rules ideas   
    Mat-side weigh ins.  You said I'm czar for the day.  Haha.
    As a process guy in my "professional" life, the whole idiocy of weigh-ins days or hours before actually wrestling defeats the purpose.  It would literally take a few seconds per match.  
    You miss weight, it's a forfeit.  All the sudden you have eliminated your issue of kids cutting too much and people will wrestle their true weight.
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    gsmith58 reacted to TeamGarcia in Best Teams   
    Well, what if you took Bloomington (7) Champions and they probably have a few Placers back then . Where would they fall in that unofficial scoring system  ? 
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    gsmith58 got a reaction from coach_worden in Best Teams   
    Depending on how far back you want to go, throw in Delta and Bloomington South.
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    gsmith58 got a reaction from QuinnHarris in Best Teams   
    Depending on how far back you want to go, throw in Delta and Bloomington South.
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    gsmith58 got a reaction from piscis1956 in Short List ?   
    I stand corrected. Nevertheless, he was a lot of fun to watch. He talked about in the same way the four-timers are today. 
     
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    gsmith58 got a reaction from Cody LeCount in Perry Meridian RTC   
    McKinley, LeCount, or James
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