jmills Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 http://www.nfhs.org/articles/new-potentially-dangerous-hold-identified-in-high-school-wrestling/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamGarcia Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Interesting, see this a lot . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsawwrestling Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Silly, now if you are close to your 5 second caution just re-adjust to include arm and get the potential dangerous call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 cost Walton a match at Scholastic Duals...that said...safety is the NUMBER one concern...this kind of drop no matter how well intentioned and safe the wrestler controlling the return tries to be, serious head trauma or whiplash is possible and I know as a coach and future parent (hopefully crazier things have happened) I would want to make sure my wrestler was not gonna suffer any un-needed head injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 It sounds as if you'll only get the potentially dangerous call when you lift them off the mat. Hopefully we'll get a solid interpretation from one of our resident refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsawwrestling Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) I understand your concern, but couldn't this be covered in the slam issues. For example it's considered a slam if "returned wrestler" from a front and back standing position lands on their head or shoulder first. Next they will band headlocks because of the potential of the "thrown kid" landing on their head, which they should because I hate headlocks. I've seen this happen, causing possible concussions more than the trapped arm throw. Edited May 25, 2016 by warsawwrestling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Ratliff Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 It looked contingent on the lift. I wonder if a PD will be called if they have the arm trapped but pick the heel to take their opponent to the mat? The head could still hit the mat from that position as well. aoberlin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aoberlin Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 No need to lift them if you have the arm anyways. A well placed and setup heel spike will do the trick every time. Justin Ratliff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNL Wrestling Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 It looked contingent on the lift. I wonder if a PD will be called if they have the arm trapped but pick the heel to take their opponent to the mat? The head could still hit the mat from that position as well. I also wonder because usually when you have the arm trapped and you lift your not holding him for long. You are immediately returning him to the mat in most cases. So as the referee is blowing the whistle to stop the offensive man is already returning the guy to the mat. This could almost turn into a worse situation as one of the wrestlers could relax after the whistle during the return or the return still happens and then they are just going to restart. While I do see the danger of this, I also believe that it will be hard to police. If it is lifted and returned does this become illegal and penalty points awarded? Just curious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Ratliff Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I would think that if the offensive wrestler keeps trapping the arm and lifting in order to stall the match, then it could result in stalling calls and eventually a point for repeated attempts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grecoref Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 The NFHS Rules Interpretation meeting is in September. This is a conference call and PowerPoint presentation with Rules Interpreters from each state. This meeting is where we will be instructed as to how this situation will be called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsawwrestling Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I'll wait till that wonderful Fort Wayne group of officials that take the time to put all the coaches on the same page! What an understanding group that knows how things should be done! #curtcrouch grecoref 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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