luv2compete Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I am making this post under my wife's user name. I would like to go on the record, I have discussed this topic before ( see post in youth last year). I agree with people suggesting no change in individual state. Through Christ all things are possible! I so believe it is possible as my buddy ( Rasslerforlife) has been challenged in a earlier thread. I would be willing to help any small school with my skills. I would be happy to run a practice and talk with your boys and coaches for no charge. I will work with you along the way in building a team that can compete at any level. If you would like to take me up on this offer ( just call) John Slivka AKA Papa John 317-903-8511 RASSLER4LIFE, asbury4040 and BeastMode#31 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode#31 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Right on Papa John. To all the coaches who support class wrestling: PLEASE do not let your wrestlers hear you say they cannot compete/win against the big schools. There is nothing more demoralizing as an athelete than knowing your coach, who you love and respect, does not think you can win. RASSLER4LIFE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachM Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) So in just a few practices you can turn a room of 7-10 kids into contenders, despite the fact that they have next to no resources at school, have to compete for gym time with freshman basketball, cheerleading, and drama club, have a weight room with essentially nothing in it, create a feeder system with a large number of kids participating on a regular basis, increase teacher and coaching pay to attract and keep high quality coaches in the building as well as adding coaching stipends to put more coaches in the room, give the school access to more wrestling opportunities in the off season, along with a variety of other things it takes to build high level programs? I'm impressed. It has much less to do with the kids and a lot more to do with access to all the things outside of just the practice room, which most small schools don't have, that make it tough for smaller schools to compete. A small school here and there can compete but to think they all can on a regular basis is misguided at best. Edited January 9, 2016 by CoachM Xbrendnx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode#31 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 All I hear is excuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualwrestlingfan Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The key factor is having someone with experience and credentials in the program. Look at AC. Barry Humble started the program and then his successful wrestlers became coaches. Their wrestlers became coaches. Same with AJ Kalvert and Bellmont. One person has to lay the foundation against odds and get parents and community to slowly buy in. wrestler32, allyourbase and BeastMode#31 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode#31 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 No one said it was easy. allyourbase 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio Jr. Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 #toughguy DrSugarBritches 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode#31 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 #everyonegetsatrophy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 #everyonegetsatrophy everyone still wouldn't get a trophy. but I understand your trying to say if you cant beat everyone then you don't deserve to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I would love to know what capacity the people posting have to the sport. obviously we as a society are opposed to change. allyourbase 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RASSLER4LIFE Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) Some are coaches, assistant coaches and parents. Edited January 9, 2016 by RASSLER4LIFE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMode#31 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 The guy who started the thread is legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) Some are coaches, assistant coaches and parents. lol I'm sure. I would like to know how the opinions of coaches, fans and parents are different Edited January 9, 2016 by ontherise219 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 I am making this post under my wife's user name. I would like to go on the record, I have discussed this topic before ( see post in youth last year). I agree with people suggesting no change in individual state. Through Christ all things are possible! I so believe it is possible as my buddy ( Rasslerforlife) has been challenged in a earlier thread. I would be willing to help any small school with my skills. I would be happy to run a practice and talk with your boys and coaches for no charge. I will work with you along the way in building a team that can compete at any level. If you would like to take me up on this offer ( just call) John Slivka AKA Papa John 317-903-8511 I m guessing you could give us a insight of the small school/ big school choice Which is a choice you had to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RASSLER4LIFE Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Well, the gentleman who started the thread has quite a wrestling resume. State Champ, college wrestler, coached state placers, parent of state caliber wrestler. I coached along side this guy, have been involved in big school feeder programs, Jr. high coach, high school assistant & father of a 3x sq. so we know what it takes. BeastMode#31 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Well, the gentleman who started the thread has quite a wrestling resume. State Champ, college wrestler, coached state placers, parent of state caliber wrestler. I coached along side this guy, have been involved in big school feeder programs, Jr. high coach, high school assistant & father of a 3x sq. so we know what it takes. That's a great resume. I'm not sure that's what I'm asking. I'm asking who wants Classed and wants it to stay the same. I m also interested in his choice to send Jordan to cathedral. He has a better insight then most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyourbase Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 *I'm just here for the.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RASSLER4LIFE Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Sorry misunderstood your question. They definitely face better competition than we do. Every week they are battling state caliber kids where we only see that competition a couple times per season. We as a program are not there yet as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 but adding a possible state medalist would help. I'm not involved with any program but what is stopping you from scheduling the top squads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyourbase Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 but adding a possible state medalist would help. I'm not involved with any program but what is stopping you from scheduling the top squads? Some "top squads" won't schedule smaller schools for various reasons. It never stopped us (Monrovia) from competing at the highest level though back in the day. While I would have always rather wrestled the best competition each and every time in place of pushover so to speak, that's not where you improve. You don't improve your skills, conditioning or mindset during a "6" minute match. You improve in the offseason, in practice, and on your own. BeastMode#31, RASSLER4LIFE, ontherise219 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 In duals maybe but in super duals and tourneys smaller schools are competing including Monrovia who was at Mooresville. I can see why in duals, smaller schools have a lesser margin of error of you lose a 52 you might have a quality guy or even anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyourbase Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 In duals maybe but in super duals and tourneys smaller schools are competing including Monrovia who was at Mooresville. I can see why in duals, smaller schools have a lesser margin of error of you lose a 52 you might have a quality guy or even anyone. I don't think I'm following you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherise219 Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 During the week it does help a larger school to schedule a smaller school. If the smaller school can't fill a line up. Not by fault of the small school. But weekend individual tourney or multi team duals I see a lot of smaller teams invited too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyourbase Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) During the week it does help a larger school to schedule a smaller school. If the smaller school can't fill a line up. Not by fault of the small school. But weekend individual tourney or multi team duals I see a lot of smaller teams invited too. I gotcha now.. Edited January 9, 2016 by allyourbase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RASSLER4LIFE Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) We wrestle at the Spartan, wrestle several 3A schools. We plan to strengthen our schedule but right now we have 8-9 freshman in our line up so you also need to balance it out so they don't get too discouraged. Build them up a little too. We work hard in the off season, attend RTC's, camps, and wrestle even thru the summer. Not all of our kids are that committed but the opportunities are there if you take advantage of them. Edited January 9, 2016 by RASSLER4LIFE grappleapple and BeastMode#31 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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