dad2 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Any predictions on weight classes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR658 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 106, 152 and 220 should be fun ones to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger.dad Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Elkhart Memorial should take the team title....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger.dad Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 106 Diemen Northwood 113 120 Hatch Warsaw 126 Ponsler Wawasee 132 138 Byler Goshen 145 Vaughn Elkhart Memorial 152 160 170 Ritchie Elkhart Memorial 182 Eli Elkhart Memorial 195 Lefree Plymouth 220 Summers Elkhart Memorial 285 Need to do some more investigation on the blank ones........can't recall who beat who at the moment...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 The Northwood kid at 152 is solid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fine Print Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 The Northwood kid at 152 is solid True, but I believe Howe from Northridge beat him in their dual last week. And what about Neidig from Plymouth? Can he give those two a challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsawwrestling Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Nolin from Warsaw beat Lefree Plymouth during season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger.dad Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 i agree the northwood 152 is a good pick for that slot.........how about the other weights that are blank?.......any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad2 Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 When is the seeding meeting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 The seeding meeting is a moot point here. They seed on how you do in the conference duals using a point system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger.dad Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 you could be the # 1 ranked wrestler in the nation but if you missed some conference matches due to say injury, you would (probably) end up somewhere back in the pack because you didn't accumulate as many points as someone who wrestled all the matches at that weight, even if they had a loss to the # 1........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 you could be the # 1 ranked wrestler in the nation but if you missed some conference matches due to say injury, you would (probably) end up somewhere back in the pack because you didn't accumulate as many points as someone who wrestled all the matches at that weight, even if they had a loss to the # 1........ So if you we're undefeated on the year and missed that one conference dual tournament due to injury or illness like you said, you wouldn't get seeded?? What kind of backwoods math is that? That has a chance of doing more harm than good. Someone that should be a #2 seed could get the #1 seed, and the wrestler that is undefeated and should get the #1 seed could get unseeded and draw into the #1 seed. That could really put the screws on a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 So if you we're undefeated on the year and missed that one conference dual tournament due to injury or illness like you said, you wouldn't get seeded?? What kind of backwoods math is that? That has a chance of doing more harm than good. Someone that should be a #2 seed could get the #1 seed, and the wrestler that is undefeated and should get the #1 seed could get unseeded and draw into the #1 seed. That could really put the screws on a kid. I could be wrong but I have heard that the NLC adopted this method because of long and contentious seeding meetings. I charger.dad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I could be wrong but I have heard that the NLC adopted this method because of long and contentious seeding meetings. I I guess each conference should be able to do what they want it just seems a little silly. I hope it doesn't catch on at any sectionals because it could end someone's career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger.dad Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I could be wrong but I have heard that the NLC adopted this method because of long and contentious seeding meetings. I lol.......you are correct in that there have been some long ones......and yes troll that's how it is - you get points for each match you wrestle.......i believe the margin of victory, win or lose, which weight you were at, etc all play into the point total.......so it's not that you don't get seeded, you just may not have enough points to get the #1 seed.......sectional s is coming up though at elkhart memorial and that is seeded like the most of the rest so i'm sure we will get another long drawn out affair.......lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 So if you we're undefeated on the year and missed that one conference dual tournament due to injury or illness like you said, you wouldn't get seeded?? What kind of backwoods math is that? That has a chance of doing more harm than good. Someone that should be a #2 seed could get the #1 seed, and the wrestler that is undefeated and should get the #1 seed could get unseeded and draw into the #1 seed. That could really put the screws on a kid. Missing one dual doesn't do that, but basically you get a point for winning a match at that weight in the conference dual. Wrestler with the most points is the #1 seed, 2nd most points 2nd seed, etc. In your case it might happen that 1 and 2 are switched if you miss one dual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Could it also not reduce the amount of forfeited match ups throughout the season. There is no point in giving up a forfeit to protect a potential seed position if it still counts against you at tournament time. Barrq 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger.dad Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 if i'm not mistaken, wrestling at a different weight also effects seeding points.......say you wrestled half the duals at 106 and the other half at 113 but won them all.......then you go 106 for the NLC championship.......i believe you still get points for the 113 wins but not as many?........i'm sure someone on here knows the correct answer....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 It's always been wacky like this. When I graduated in the mid-90s, you had to have at least 4 conference matches in the weight class you were entering to even be considered. I had moved down a weight, Jason Carr had just moved from Warsaw to Wawasee, and another state-caliber kid had been hurt all year till then. None of us could be seeded, so we all got put in the same half and I ended up wrestling Northwood's part-time varsity freshman in the championship. It's a little silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger.dad Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 106 Diemen Northwood 113 DeVault Plymouth 120 Hatch Warsaw 126 Ponsler Wawasee 132 Sollis Plymouth 138 Byler Goshen 145 Vaughn Elkhart Memorial 152 Griffin Northwood 160 Mathiak Elkhart Memorial 170 Ritchie Elkhart Memorial 182 Eli Elkhart Memorial 195 Lefree Plymouth 220 Summers Elkhart Memorial 285 Milton Plymouth Memorial wins team title by 20 + points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsawwrestling Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 It is 2 points for win in the weight class that you are wrestling in at NLC's and 1 point for wins in other weight classes (lower or higher). I think this is the last year for this format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmills Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 If Plymouth would of had a 120 lb'er, they very well could have won conference. Darn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsawwrestling Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I don't think that would have made a difference. I don't think Mullins or Carrington could be Hatch. Then wrestling back they would had Northwood kid, and if they beat him they would have had the Goshen kid that got 3rd. So at best maybe one more win and that would not have made up the point difference. It sucks we also have 2 kids out at 170 and 182 with concussions that hurt us as well, but that's what we had to work with that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger.dad Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 thank god you guys had kids out so we were able to win it........dodged a bullet there for sure.......lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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