ENoblewrestling Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Always a hot botton issue in wrestling... http://www.indianasnewscenter.com/sports/IHSAA-Commissioner-Offers-Opinion-on-Class-Sports-137009728.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tskin Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Geez even Cox can't get our new weight classes right.....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrecoCoach Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 It's unfathomable that the state would abuse its power to try to eliminate class basketball. Also, Bobby Cox's class argument has convinced me to hop off the fence and onto the side of class wrestling. Even though he is opposed to class wrestling, his logic and examples make a lot of sense for us to move to classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decbell1 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Anyone know what he is referencing when he said that some schools have moved up in class voluntarily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 An Indy catholic school moved up for a cycle about 10 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickS Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Mr. Cox says, "We wouldn’t pit a 3,500-student school against a 300-student school in an IHSAA basketball tournament" Why's it different pitting a 3,500-student school against a 300-student school in an IHSAA basketball game to pitting a 3,500-student school against a 300-student school in an IHSAA wrestling dual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrecoCoach Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Mr. Cox says, "We wouldn?t pit a 3,500-student school against a 300-student school in an IHSAA basketball tournament" So why is it different with wrestling? It would actually be harder on wrestling than it would be for basketball. Using his example, a 300 student school would have about 150 boys. They would only need to find any 5 with some basketball talent, which is possible since most have probably been around basketball growing up. With wrestling, they would have to find 14 wrestlers, all at different weights, and most of whom have zero experience with wrestling. That is near impossible and a huge disadvantage. The only argument the IHSAA has is to call wrestling an individual sport. Taking away team state makes it easier for them to continue to call it that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickS Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 It would actually be harder on wrestling than it would be for basketball. Using his example, a 300 student school would have about 150 boys. They would only need to find any 5 with some basketball talent, which is possible since most have probably been around basketball growing up. With wrestling, they would have to find 14 wrestlers, all at different weights, and most of whom have zero experience with wrestling. That is near impossible and a huge disadvantage. The only argument the IHSAA has is to call wrestling an individual sport. Taking away team state makes it easier for them to continue to call it that. Regardless on whether or not somebody believes wrestling is an individual or team sport (which is a different topic by the way). We're still pitting a 145 lb. wrestler, that comes from a 3,500-student school, against a 145 lb. wrestler, that comes from a 300-student school. So whether it's a "team" sport or "individual" sport is irrelevant based on Mr. Cox's reasoning from this article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edb41 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Regardless on whether or not somebody believes wrestling is an individual or team sport (which is a different topic by the way). We're still pitting a 145 lb. wrestler, that comes from a 3,500-student school, against a 145 lb. wrestler, that comes from a 300-student school. So whether it's a "team" sport or "individual" sport is irrelevant based on Mr. Cox's reasoning from this article. so a 145 pound wrestler from a larger school weighs more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger.dad Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 so a 145 pound wrestler from a larger school weighs more? no but the best 145 that the 3500 enrollment school just by the odds has a higher chance at being better than the one from the 300 enrollment school.....so from that standpoint i see where classed wrestling for the team aspect would be a good thing.....but individually, not in my opinion because the best one person at that weight (which might just come from that 300 enrollment school) will/should rise to the top....and that's in part why indiana has one of the best state tournaments in the country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edb41 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Yeah, I was just kinda trolling ;D I love duals and would be ok with classing team state if it meant keeping a dual format, but would don't like the idea of having multiple weight class champs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger.dad Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Yeah, I was just kinda trolling ;D I love duals and would be ok with classing team state if it meant keeping a dual format, but would don't like the idea of having multiple weight class champs. right on brother.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I guess we can say its at least an improvement he brought up wrestling in any form or reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regionrat1 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 CLASS duel meet tournament - individual tourney 1 champ - being a state champ in a multi class is like kissing your sister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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