maligned Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Last year, with Y2's excellent help, I spent an unmentionable number of hours over a 2-week period compiling the Genius Ratings (computer generated predictive ratings for all 300+ schools based on teams' scores in all matches and tournaments). Then, I spent another large clump of hours trying to fulfill my promise to update them post-sectionals--but couldn't get it done. I was very disappointed and felt I let people down. However, I've looked back through posts and run searches for mention of the ratings. I don't find much discussion at all about them. No one even asked--hey, where are the genius rating updates that were promised? So, I just want to know, before I embark on putting together a better system and getting ratings together as more data comes in through the season, do people care much about them? It's a much bigger task than I'd hoped, and I want to be sure people got something out of it before I move forward this season with getting help to make it work more smoothly. Thanks for any input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 With the advent of class polls, I think these Genius ratings would be good discussion fodder. I found them highly interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fearless fly Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Since I won't reading the class polls, I'm undecided ! ff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Since I won't reading the class polls, I'm undecided ! ff With that grammar maybe you should be reading more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepsingle20 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 What are and where can I find the Genius Ratings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted November 24, 2010 Author Share Posted November 24, 2010 Go here http://www.indianamat.com/genius-ratings-version-1-0/2010/01/ for the explanation and here http://indianamat.com/stuff/genius1-1.html for the actual ratings. These ratings were pre-sectionals including every single result posted anywhere on indianamat.com plus many others turned in by coaches independently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-train Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 i voted that i never heard of them, but now that i know a little more they look interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 They are very similar to the Sagrin ratings that they do for football. Wrestling however can be more accurate because of more head to head match-ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 I did really like the info and the rankings. Though I'm sure it was a huge uphill battle to get enough team record info to make the Genius Ratings accurate. Meet results are just not publicized all of the state like high school basketball and football are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted November 25, 2010 Author Share Posted November 25, 2010 Obviously, the more information there is, the better. However, even with just 4 or 5 accurate results from a team, you can get a very good picture of where they should be slotted in the 'Potential' rating system (points-based, high predictive ability). Last year, we had much more than that for almost every team. In fact, I would say we had more than 50% of a team's total results in about 2/3 of all cases. With the 'Reward' system that ranks based on wins/losses only, you really need more than just 4-5 results to get a fair picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 Y2 is working on a computer program that will make the data entry much, much easier. If we can get the program off the ground, we will definitely do the rankings again. It will take a 2-3 weeks to have enough data and time to get it rolling, but we're working on it. Thanks for the feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2matdawgs Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 how about an update now that there has been 3 weeks of wrestling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccbig Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 I thought they we interesting last season. Looking forward to them again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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