CG-Coach Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 If I have kids who have registered at certain weight class (ie PW-40) and they don't make weight. Are the automatically bumped up to the next weight class? or do they forfeit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiralride Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I think it is still the same, but in years pass if you missed the weight you sent in you could move up to the next weight class at weigh-ins. I do not think this has changed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infolady Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 There will be On-site weigh-ins for all age divisions, both week-ends. Upon arrival, wrestlers will pick-up their weigh-in card and proceed directly to skin checks and weigh-ins. Wrestlers are NOT required to make the weight they listed when they registered for the event on trackwrestling. Weigh-ins for all age divisions will consist of 1 weigh-in and 1 immediate challenge. Wrestlers will not be allowed to leave the weigh-in room. All wrestlers must weigh-in wearing a competition singlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfurgason Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Can you explain to me what you mean by immediate challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlittlejohn Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 From the NFHS Rules Book: Rule 4, Section 5, Article 3 ... If only one scale is available , a contestant may step on and off that scale two times to allow for mechanical inconsistancies in the scale. If multiple scales are available (which will be the case at both Ben Davis & Huntington), a contestant may step on and off the first scale two times to allow for mechanical inconsistancies in that scale. If the contestant fails to make weight on the first scale, the contestant shall immediately step on each available scale one time in an attempt to make weight. During time off the scale(s), activities that promote dehydration are prohibited. Remember USA Wrestling requires that all competitors must weigh-in wearing a competition singlet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throw45 Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 So...does the ISWA provide access to the scales at all prior to "officially" weighing in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigginhurts Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 do you have to make scratch weight or do you get a 1 lb. allowance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlittlejohn Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 There will be On-site weigh-ins for all age divisions, both week-ends. Upon arrival, wrestlers will pick-up their weigh-in card and proceed directly to skin checks and weigh-ins. Wrestlers are NOT required to make the weight they listed when they registered for the event on trackwrestling. Weigh-ins for all age divisions will consist of 1 weigh-in and 1 immediate challenge. Wrestlers will not be allowed to leave the weigh-in room. All wrestlers must weigh-in wearing a competition singlet. As stated above, wrestlers are to proceed directly to skin checks and weigh-ins. No access will be permitted to the official scales prior to the competitors official weigh-in, once the wrestlers enter the weigh-in room they will not be permitted to leave prior to being officially checked and weighed. No check scales will be provided by the ISWA! Wrestlers must make the scratch weight no allowance will be given. Again, as stated above, wrestlers are NOT required to make the weight they listed when they registered for the event on trackwrestling. In addition, only the wrestlers will be permitted into the weigh-in area; no coaches, parents, or escorts of any kind (other than a fellow wrestler who is also weighing in), unless requested by the weigh-master or physician conducting skin checks for consultation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throw45 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 That's pretty bad to not have a check scale before sending kids into "The Room"...that's always been kind of annoying the way they treat weigh-ins like such a top secret area at state! We'll be brining our own digital, hope it's close enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinwrestlersmom Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 That's pretty bad to not have a check scale before sending kids into "The Room"...that's always been kind of annoying the way they treat weigh-ins like such a top secret area at state! We'll be brining our own digital, hope it's close enough! But you don't actually HAVE to make the weight you registered at. If thats the weight you want to go *shrug* don't be close.I just hope people remember to cut their kids nails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hpw Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 That's pretty bad to not have a check scale before sending kids into "The Room"...that's always been kind of annoying the way they treat weigh-ins like such a top secret area at state! We'll be brining our own digital, hope it's close enough! [/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiralride Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 WHAT I DON'T understand is the ISWA sticks these kids in a room to weigh-in and lets them have one challenge, BUT THEY ARE NOT ALOUD TO LEAVE THE ROOM.....If I recall right they can't go to the bathroom because there is no place in the so called 'weigh-in' room. Shouldn't they be atleast given the option to go to the bathroom??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 WHAT I DON'T understand is the ISWA sticks these kids in a room to weigh-in and lets them have one challenge, BUT THEY ARE NOT ALOUD TO LEAVE THE ROOM.....If I recall right they can't go to the bathroom because there is no place in the so called 'weigh-in' room. Shouldn't they be atleast given the option to go to the bathroom??????? When junior gets to high school if he doesn't make weight he will not be allowed to go to the bathroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB1212 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 When junior gets to high school if he doesn't make weight he will not be allowed to go to the bathroom. Thet may be true but were talking about little kids here. Why should 5,6, and 7 year olds get treated like h.s. kids? Parents should be allowed back there. My kid was upset about it last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signal34 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Could you imagine what some of the parents would do to thier kids if they were aloud to leave the area. Some of them already look terrible from cutting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiralride Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I would agree with that statement....And I DO NOT agree with any kid cutting weight at these ages we are dealing with...But there are some circumstances ( a very few ) were a kid steps on the scale and maybe he weighs 60.2 and they mark 65 on his arm because he can not leave the weigh in room. For me in general it is what it is. My two boys wrestle what they weigh and they know that.....I think the ISWA does a great job running the state tournament.....IT IS NOT ANY EASY TASK.....I look forward to some great wrestling and a fun weekend with my sons and our club kids!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikev Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 it amazes me people complain about weigh ins like this.....you know what the weight classes are before you ever get there.....if your kid is that close then maybe you need to just let him wrestle up and not sweat the weight issue......especially the little kids!......and if little johnny needs to go pee pee or poopy, get him in the bathroom before he gets to the weigh in room....isn't this all just common sense?......i've been doing this alot of years with my boys and the weight thing is really ridiculous with alot of parents.....i've seen 5-6-7 year old kids that are 40 to 50 pound range running to cut a few ounces!......come on people, is it really that important?.....at these young ages that should never be done......the weight doesn't make any difference at this stage.....if your kid is in good shape, he should just wrestle his weight.....if he's overweight, then hopefully particpating in wrestling has helped him lose some excess and become healthier......think people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB1212 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Could you imagine what some of the parents would do to thier kids if they were aloud to leave the area. Some of them already look terrible from cutting. I never thought about that. We are new to wrestling. I dont care that he cant leave but why cant parents go back there? Especially with the real little kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlittlejohn Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 WHAT I DON'T understand is the ISWA sticks these kids in a room to weigh-in and lets them have one challenge, BUT THEY ARE NOT ALOUD TO LEAVE THE ROOM.....If I recall right they can't go to the bathroom because there is no place in the so called 'weigh-in' room. Shouldn't they be atleast given the option to go to the bathroom??????? The opportunity to challenge refers only to the right to challenge the mechanical consistancy of the scales themselves; not, the opportunity to decrease the physical weight of the competitior. The wrestler should report to weigh-ins prepared at their desired weight. This effort should be made in advance and not achieved during the weigh-in process. Preparation is a huge part of success! From the NFHS Rules Book: Rule 4, Section 5, Article 3 ... If only one scale is available , a contestant may step on and off that scale two times to allow for mechanical inconsistancies in the scale. If multiple scales are available (which will be the case at both Ben Davis & Huntington), a contestant may step on and off the first scale two times to allow for mechanical inconsistancies in that scale. If the contestant fails to make weight on the first scale, the contestant shall immediately step on each available scale one time in an attempt to make weight. During time off the scale(s), activities that promote dehydration are prohibited. Remember USA Wrestling requires that all competitors must weigh-in wearing a competition singlet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlittlejohn Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I never thought about that. We are new to wrestling. I dont care that he cant leave but why cant parents go back there? Especially with the real little kids. It's merely a matter of limiting congestion and maintaining consistancy in order to aleviate uncertainty and aggrevation that arises from the making of exceptions. The weigh-master and other qualified "room" personnel will be available to assist in extreme situations; afterall, we too are parents and understand the comfort level of the little ones in this experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throw45 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Look people, in this sport, people cut weight...it's not a bad thing within reason and if it's done right...it takes discipline and it is what it is...turn your head if you want, but it is an inherent part of the sport. I think some of you are wrong to assume that it's not a big deal if a "young" wrestler just has to move up to the next weight class at state if they don't make their declared weight. "Hey, they're young...they're just here for mat time anyway!!!" I think that's a load of crap. I've said that to my son for the last three years, he's not buying it. Kids are a helluva lot smarter than we give them credit for. I am in no way a proponent of any significant weight cutting at all, regardless of age; unless you're fat of course, then lose all you want. But here's a scenario: Let's assume that wrestler X is a bantam who has been right around 51-52 lbs. all season and wrestled 55 in tournaments when a weight class had to be declared; but for the state meet wrestler X decides to cut back a little and wrestle closer to his/her actual weight at 50. He has responsibly done everything necessary to shed one or two pounds and reaches the goal of the 50 lb weight class. PROBLEM: mommy and daddy's scale was a little off and he weighed 50.1 when he entered the "the room of death" at the state meet. Oh well, X just goes up to 55 done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinwrestlersmom Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I never thought about that. We are new to wrestling. I dont care that he cant leave but why cant parents go back there? Especially with the real little kids. Send them with an older kid from your club,thats what we have always done. Now my kids are the older ones and they will take the little ones with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Look people, in this sport, people cut weight...it's not a bad thing within reason and if it's done right...it takes discipline and it is what it is...turn your head if you want, but it is an inherent part of the sport. I think some of you are wrong to assume that it's not a big deal if a "young" wrestler just has to move up to the next weight class at state if they don't make their declared weight. "Hey, they're young...they're just here for mat time anyway!!!" I think that's a load of crap. I've said that to my son for the last three years, he's not buying it. Kids are a helluva lot smarter than we give them credit for. I am in no way a proponent of any significant weight cutting at all, regardless of age; unless you're fat of course, then lose all you want. But here's a scenario: Let's assume that wrestler X is a bantam who has been right around 51-52 lbs. all season and wrestled 55 in tournaments when a weight class had to be declared; but for the state meet wrestler X decides to cut back a little and wrestle closer to his/her actual weight at 50. He has responsibly done everything necessary to shed one or two pounds and reaches the goal of the 50 lb weight class. PROBLEM: mommy and daddy's scale was a little off and he weighed 50.1 when he entered the "the room of death" at the state meet. Oh well, X just goes up to 55 done deal. I don't think you are looking at the big picture here. I agree with you in the fact that wrestling is a sport of watching your weight, but there is a fine line there in my opinion. I was there this past weekend I saw all kinds of stuff going on that really made me alittle worried and in another way happy. I saw a Bantam 40 lbs. that was 3 tenths over and they were making him run to make weight and talking about cutting his hair to get him down there and making him spit into a trash can to get down his weight. Is this exsessive? Then the kid that cut four pounds in the last 8-10 hours and his dad is walking around talking about how he put him in a steam room for three hours and didn't let him eat for a day then made him run out side in the cold so his body would fight to get warm and he would loose more weight. Is this excessive! Now for the happy part and some of you might not agree with this, but none of those kids won thier weight classes or were really even close. I would also be willing to bet the house that most of these kids will not be wrestling when they get older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throw45 Posted March 8, 2010 Share Posted March 8, 2010 Fish: good post! I don't disagree with anything you're saying...in fact, I am not too sure that I agree with myself now! Had there been a check scale present, there might have been more blatant disregard for the ethics of the sport, and more people trying to cut weight off their kids in the hallways or the parking lots at Ben Davis. The enormity of putting on such an event is sometimes forgotten, I was super impressed this year by the professionalism and organization shown by the ISWA. The absence of a way to "check" your weight before the official weigh in just creates a little anxiety "not knowing" what the scales are gonna say, at any level! But, I got over it. Like many before me and many after me, I cut weight in HS and college, and I hated it...so anyone making excessive weight loss part of the norm for their kids is potentially guaranteeing that those kids will someday stop enjoying the sport altogether! GREAT STATE FINALS ISWA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted March 9, 2010 Share Posted March 9, 2010 Throw45, Just to let you know there was a scale in the back bathroom that was put in there to check your weight on. It was not talked about cause there were people that didn't want the ISWA to find out, when I know for a fact that they knew and were allowing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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