Y2CJ41 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Since I promised this data and you probably wouldn't see it in the topic, here it is. Schools Students Per School #Big Schools # Small Schools Merrillville... 74... 76630.... 1035.54... 40... 34 Fort Wayne..77... 64127... 832.82... 31... 46 Evansville ...86...74628....... 867.77... 53... 33 New Castle..74... 90576... 1224.00... 28... 46 This is the semi-state breakdown by schools and students. The Fort Wayne semi-state actually has 10K less than Evansville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcarter Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Y2 your data shows that the average for NC is 1224 but that they have more small schools than big. I have two questions that I would like to ask you. 1) what is the cut off line for a big/small school? 2) out of all the qualifiers from NC how many were from small schools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 New Castle has many of the "mega" schools in Indiana. In the top 10 schools, New Castle is represented by the top four along with #7 and #8. 1. The cut-off is 741 students. That is where there is an even distribution of schools. http://garrettwrestling.com/proof2008.html 2. Just a quick look I saw 9 state qualifiers from small schools out of 56 or 16%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manvswild1 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 The mega schools have changed arround from year to year just because the past fw have been likethis doesn't mean it will forever be like that. Success use to go through evansville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 The mega schools have changed arround from year to year just because the past fw have been likethis doesn't mean it will forever be like that. Success use to go through evansville. The mega schools being referred to are the huge enrollment schools largely in the Indy metro area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinedad Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 The mega schools have changed arround from year to year just because the past fw have been likethis doesn't mean it will forever be like that. Success use to go through evansville. The mega schools being referred to are the huge enrollment schools largely in the Indy metro area. I would think that schools like Warren, Carmel, Ben Davis, North Central will always count as mega schools, with both Lawrence North, and Central right behind, and Pike not far behind them. These schools will always be over 2000 students, with WC Car. and BD and NC up around 4000 per year. It is these schools that tend to skew the data as far as the per school mean average. I would think the median average for all semi-states would be much closer. And no, I dont care to do the recearch to prove that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 Median values FW- 654 Mville- 799 New Castle- 717 Evansville- 800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinedad Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Somehow, I knew you would have the data right at your fingertips....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 Haha, I have the spreadsheet right here, it was pretty easy to conjure up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chambers Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 You have at least one school listed that does not have a wrestling team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 I used the sectional lineup that was listed on the IHSAA website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Generals Dad Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 That's very suprising. Thanks for posting the info, I would have bet a decent amount of money that the north would have had more large schools than the south. Guess I am not always right after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chambers Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I used the sectional lineup that was listed on the IHSAA website. What sectional was New Harmony assigned to? They do not have a wrestling team and as far as I know they have never had a wrestling team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted April 1, 2009 Author Share Posted April 1, 2009 I honestly have no clue how they got on the list. They weren't listed on the sectional rosters for any of the previous years. The newest update to the statistics for the past four years however does not have New Harmony listed. You can see them at the link provided. http://garrettwrestling.com/proof2009.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehateme1st Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Since I promised this data and you probably wouldn't see it in the topic, here it is. Schools Students Per School #Big Schools # Small Schools Merrillville... 74... 76630.... 1035.54... 40... 34 Fort Wayne..77... 64127... 832.82... 31... 46 Evansville ...86...74628....... 867.77... 53... 33 New Castle..74... 90576... 1224.00... 28... 46 This is the semi-state breakdown by schools and students. The Fort Wayne semi-state actually has 10K less than Evansville. So according to your statistics the FW semi-state is you guys have an advantage as a small school to get your wrestler to semi-state right because there are allot more small school and New Castle has the most so they should always have the most individual champs right or Evansville Because they have bigger schools?.......yes you can look at the numbers and make a case but looking to deep into something and trying to back you opinion with numbers doesnt make it RIGHT.......not saying i am right either! You have you opinion and I have mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted April 1, 2009 Author Share Posted April 1, 2009 So according to your statistics the FW semi-state is you guys have an advantage as a small school to get your wrestler to semi-state right because there are allot more small school Yes currently we do for two big reasons. The first is the big mega schools right now, Snider, Northrop, South Side, etc in Fort Wayne with by far some of the most talented athletes are way down. Secondly, as a general rule we are wrestling against teams and individuals that come from very similar types of schools. So in essence the playing field is a little more level. and New Castle has the most so they should always have the most individual champs right or Evansville Because they have bigger schools? Probably the area with the greatest population of students, which would be New Castle. .......yes you can look at the numbers and make a case but looking to deep into something and trying to back you opinion with numbers doesnt make it RIGHT.......not saying i am right either! You have you opinion and I have mine! I agree, I just was putting those up for General's Dad because he said something about it in an earlier post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 So according to your statistics the FW semi-state is you guys have an advantage as a small school to get your wrestler to semi-state right because there are allot more small school and New Castle has the most so they should always have the most individual champs right or Evansville Because they have bigger schools?.......yes you can look at the numbers and make a case but looking to deep into something and trying to back you opinion with numbers doesnt make it RIGHT.......not saying i am right either! You have you opinion and I have mine! What are you trying to say in this post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 You did a better job than me in deciphering this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehateme1st Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Do either of you guys know amount of place winners and what they placed at state coming from FW semi-state? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarlHungus Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 Do either of you guys know amount of place winners and what they placed at state coming from FW semi-state? This past year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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