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  1. On 2/27/2024 at 10:19 AM, Rugger44 said:

    Alex Tsirtis vs. Jesse Mendez

    Blake Maurer vs. Alex Dolly "The rematch"

    Reece Humphry vs. Steven Micic 

    Darren Elkins vs. Josh Holden

    Craig Weinzapfel vs. Brayton Lee

    Mason Parris vs Jake O'Brien

    Chad Red vs. Angel Escobedo

    Nathan Moore vs. Noah Weaver

     

     

     

    Alex Dolly vs. Derrick Whitbeck IV.

     

    #stallcamp

  2. 44 minutes ago, patriotfan said:

    Not a Jeffersonville historian by any means, but

     

    Robert Rosbottom - 2x state champ

    Adam Doherty - 2x state champ

    Alonzo Shepherd - 2x placer, 3x qualifier, most career wins at Jeff, and at one point was 12th in Indiana history for career wins

    Gavan Jolley-Little - State placer, FILA Cadet Greco Roman National champ, USAW Folkstyle National Champion

    Neat to learn Jeffersonville has some Greco history.  Ben Land makes even more sense now.

  3. 44 minutes ago, DLuther said:

    Just my opinion but Damon Hummel is hands down the best wrestler in Rochester history. If 215 was a thing he is easily a two time champ.

    I agree.  If the answer is best, he is it.  

     

    215 existing the year after he graduated is as tragic as Ball State (where he played varsity football all 4 years) eliminating wrestling in 93'.  Not sure he would have wrestled there, but he never even had a chance.

  4. Rochester is interesting as the top 3 in my opinion come down to all heavyweights. 

     

    Damon Hummel 94'

    https://indianamat.com/index.php?/wrestler_detail.html/graduated/damon-hummel-r4350/

     

    SQ 189, 2nd 189, 2nd Hwt, 3rd Hwt 

     

    Brady Beck 24'

     

    6th 220, 7th 220, 5th HWT, 2023 IHPO Champ, Rochester all time wins (164)

     

    Marshall Fishback 22'

     

    Rochester’s only state champ

     

    It depends on what metrics you value most.  I think Marshall takes it.  Honorable mention to James Samuels at HWT.  First Rochester wrestler to win the Al Smith beating Mike Pinter in 2001.

     

    Hopefully in 2 years I change my answer to Brant Beck.

     

  5. 56 minutes ago, Penn04 said:

    And beat state-ranked #1 last year and state-ranked #2 this year. 😬

    I think he is going to be an Indiana legend after his college career is completed.  Always scoring. Has a great collegiate wrestler mentality with the skill to back it up.  

     

    Hot take for New Prarie guys: he equals or slightly bests Christian Carroll in NCAA AA's if he wrestles in college to completion.

  6. 11 hours ago, mcnorthcarolina said:

    Yeah, for a kid who constantly heard how his state title was from “ND” and how wouldn’t be competitive to those top 5 guys. I wouldn’t be humble either, especially after how dominant he was in it either. The only thing on his mind is who the next best guy is so he can find away to move around and beat them. 

    Absolutely dominant! He was incredible to watch. 

     

    I hope having ND connections we see him wrestle club and then Fargo this summer.

  7. 11 hours ago, HWTDAD said:

    3 of the top 4 teams are at Evansville SS.......js

    And none of the top 4 are at new castle or Fort Wayne.  Not sure why its worth throwing shade at the ECC SS. 

     

    Some Fort Wayne area schools are  lucky they moved Rochester out.  They'd possibly see a three-peat SS championship as a 1A.

     

    Region wrestling is legit.

  8. 23 minutes ago, richyy253 said:

    Just watched Beck vs Clark how on earth was 2 NF not awarded for beck at the end! 

    I was hesitant, as I am biased, but yeah... I saw 4 points that should have gone Beck's way. Great match though. Hopefully we get round 2 in a week.

     

    Edit:  I also saw a ref fall down.  Pretty funny.  2 minute mark @ 157 semifinal at FWSS between Clouse and Russell. 

  9. 45 minutes ago, CoachDuke2.0 said:

    Random you say michael jackson. I heard a story just recently that he took down Ben Askren in an open college tourney. 

    That's 3x D2 All-American, Michael Jackson.  😎

     

    Used to love watching him and Derrick Whitbeck battle.  They wrestled 3 times MJ's senior year.

     

    He was one win away from being a National champ for the Greyhounds, twice.  He was good!

     

    Edit:  should have scrolled down.  Y2 beat me to the praise.

  10. 15 minutes ago, blueandgold said:

    Keaton Morton, Perry Meridian 2020-23

    KT Nelson, Brownsburg/Castle 2019-22

    Tyler Fuqua, Franklin Community 2018-21

    Jalen Ward, Franklin Community 2018-21

    Thanks for this thread blueandgold.  Was hesitant as first because it has a bad connotation for the "can lose to anyone."  But, a lot of of us know some straight up badasses that didn't do well in the state tournament. Beat by some surprises and surprises that turned in to known names.

     

    I'd like to add Rocky Burkett to the list. 

     

    Lorne James (Culver) at sectionals every year and Cassidy Wilson (Oak Hill) at conference every year.  

     

    If you could make his nose bleed long enough, you won. 

     

    Doing well though coaching at Northern State University I understand.  

     

    Just like his coach.  He's way better than how he did on paper in high school. 

  11. 7 minutes ago, navy80 said:

    Yeah but it's always better when you can see the rankings etc.. I love Indianamat brackets.

    It makes a huge difference in viewing Regionals like Mooresville.  You can flip back and forth writing numbers on half those guys.

     

    Really let's you know which matches to watch for.

     

  12. 16 minutes ago, Cameron10483 said:

    Was this in boys duals or girls duals? Records only count in what they did in boy duals and boy invites. If 2 girls wrestle in a boys dual, that obviously counts.

     

    Girls, but my statement is in the context of Gabe posting this:

     

    From the 2023-24 Winter Bulletin:

    X Pairings and Seeding

     

    5. Coaches should strive to keep open minds when seeding assignments are being decided. The main objective of seeding is to have outstanding wrestlers separated in the brackets so that they will not meet each other until the finals
    Seeding shall be based upon the wrestler's proven ability and not upon the desire for unwarranted advantage

     

    Seems to me this is the exact kind of situation this consideration was made for.

  13. 6 hours ago, Y2CJ41 said:

    Heard a coach had a girl that is 10-0 and picked 10 matches that she would win in order to get a high seed. She had 7 losses against girls that I guess didn't count, so she enters as a 2 seed.

     

    Also heard a coach claimed they had a win over a top wrestler, but was called on it and it was a "mistake."

    She got pinned in 52 seconds by Lilly Gerald from Rochester during the regular season. 

     

    I recognized the name when I was going through brackets and I was kind of confused to see her with a 10-0 record.  I guess I thought those losses counted.  They should IMO, with the goal being the best 2 in the finals, not record parity. 

  14. https://www.rtc4sports.com/post/we-ve-done-a-complete-180-in-our-team-culture-rochester-beats-no-1-adams-central-to-win-1a-team

     

    Pictures at link. Story copied below 

     

    Rochester wrestling coach Clint Gard challenged his team twice in advance of the Indiana High School Wrestling Coaches Association Class 1A Team State Duals at the RHS gym Saturday.

     

    The first was to the entire team. He told them to band together and to support each other more, to appreciate each other and what they put in to make the team successful.

     

    They had lost a dual to West Central at the Rensselaer Joe Burvan Holiday Duals and dropped from No. 2 to No. 3 in the rankings behind West Central.

     

    The second challenge was specifically aimed at Colin Weiand, Alex Deming and Brady Beck. Gard said he heard a commentator opine on an IndianaMat podcast that Adams Central had the best 190-215-heavyweight combination in Class 1A. Those happen to be the weights that Weiand, Deming and Beck wrestle, respectively.

     

    The rest was Rochester wrestling history, a symbiotic relationship coalescing from wrestler to wrestler and from team to fan, and it ended when the Zebras earned a 46-24 win over the top ranked Flying Jets to win the title.

     

     

    Rochester went 3-0 on the day and is now 18-2 on the season. They defeated Prairie Heights 51-26 in the quarterfinals and Cowan 57-21 in the semifinals earlier in the day.

     

    “It’s probably up there,” Gard chuckled when asked to compare the feeling to other team accomplishments in his coaching career. “It feels real good to me, so just from everything, from hosting and the job we did hosting the tournament to how our kids competed to winning it. I’m just really proud of how our kids responded after the West Central loss of a few weeks ago. I think when you look at the pictures that Paul Deming and other people have posted on social media and you see how other kids react for each other on the bench and how they supported each other all day, I think that’s probably what I’m most proud of.

     

    “We’ve done a complete 180 in our team culture, I would say.”

     

    Grant Holloway (106/113), Layne Horn (126), Wyatt Davis (150/157), Brant Beck (165) and Brady Beck (HWT) all went 3-0 and scored the maximum 18 points on the day.

    Declan Gard (175), Weiand and Deming also went 3-0 on the day.

     

    A team accomplishment rivaling winning the Fort Wayne semistate among schools in all classes in 2022 and 2023, they capped the win when freshman Kale Shotts won by fall over Adams Central’s Xander Schwartz, fighting off Schwartz’s cradle attempt and pinning him in 2:36 to give Rochester a 40-21 lead and clinch the win and set off a euphoric celebration near the Rochester bench.

     

    Brant Beck won by fall in 35 seconds, and Declan Gard overcame a stalling penalty called against him to get two takedowns and squeeze out a 10-8 win.

     

    Then came Weiand, Deming and Brady Beck.

     

    Weiand took on Trevor Currie, who is ranked No. 15 according to IndianaMat.com and who is also an all-state tight end on Adams Central’s Class 1A state runner-up football team.

     

    The match was tied 2-2 after two periods before Weiand, ranked No. 19, got an escape and a single-leg takedown, and he held on to win 5-3.

     

    Deming, an all-state running back, then took on Keegan Bluhm, an all-state linebacker. Deming, ranked eighth in the state, gave up an early reversal to Bluhm but reversed him right back.

     

    Two takedowns in the second period and two takedowns and bonus back points in the third period punctuated Deming’s 15-6 win.

     

    Then came Brady Beck’s match with Adams Central’s mountainous Zac Wurm, who is listed at 6-3 and 285 pounds on Adams Central’s football roster. After a scoreless first period, Brady Beck, yielding approximately 30 pounds to Wurm, got an escape and a takedown to go up 3-0 before getting back points and finally turning him with a crossface move.

     

    After the official put his hand on the mat, Brady Beck raised his arms to the crowd.

     

    “We had a great crowd,” coach Gard said. “The kids loved it.”

     

    The lead was 22-0, and Rochester had swept the Adams Central big man gauntlet.

     

    “We made sure that Colin, Alex and Brady knew that,” coach Gard said of the podcast. “And we made sure that it wasn’t something we brushed to the side and laughed off. It was a challenge we laid down to them. They took it personal. That’s as motivated as I’ve ever seen Colin Weiand on a wrestling mat. … He was very, very motivated.”

     

    Grant Holloway, back less than three weeks after right knee surgery, pinned Myles Kaehr in 4:00 to make it 28-0.

     

    Coach Gard said Holloway received his medical clearance to wrestle on Dec. 29.

     

    “We didn’t want it out there,” coach Gard said. “We didn’t want it on IndianaMat. We didn’t even tell the team. We just said he was released to practice, and it would be a game-time decision. … We wanted to keep it to ourselves. We didn’t want to give other teams a chance to plan for him being back in the lineup. We wanted teams to come in overconfident.”

     

    Horn (126) and Davis (157) also had falls.

     

    Semifinals: Rochester 57, Cowan 21

     

    Cowan was back in the RHS gym after finishing third at the Rochester John McKee Memorial Invitational on Dec. 16, and they blocked a West Central-Rochester rematch when they beat West Central 61-15.

     

    In the marquee match, No. 5 Brant Beck won an injury default in the third period after No. 7 Levi Abbott used up his allotted five minutes of blood time.

     

    Officials stopped the match on eight different occasions to try and patch up Abbott’s nosebleed. At one point, Cowan coaches wrapped gauze all the way around Abbott’s face but still could not stop the blood.

     

    Brant Beck was leading 5-1 at the time of the stoppage. Brant Beck also beat Abbott 4-3 at the McKee tournament this year. He lost to Abbott in the third-place match at last year’s Fort Wayne semistate.

     

    First-period falls from Gard, Weiand, Deming and Brady Beck increased the lead to 30-3.

     

    Holloway bumped up to 113 to stick Emma Jones in 1:09. A Horn pin in 28 seconds, a 7-2 D.J. Basham decision over Raef Keith, a Shotts pin and a Davis forfeit win completed Rochester’s scoring.

    “Absolutely,” coach Gard said when asked if Basham was wrestling as well as he had ever wrestled. “He’s just been wrestling really, really hard. He’s just done a really, really good job for us. I’m very proud of him. We asked him this week to drop to 132 just to give us some options to move kids around at 132 and 138. We asked him to do that after Rensselaer, and he dropped four or five pounds juts to give us a chance to give us to have some more flexibility in our lineup.”

     

    Quarterfinals: Rochester 51, Prairie Heights 26

     

    Prairie Heights took down Faith Christian 57-18 in their first-round match while Rochester had a bye.

     

    The dual got off to an inauspicious start when Brock Hagewood stuck Braylon Smith in 19 seconds at 150, but Rochester then won the next seven matches – six of them by fall – to take a 39-6 lead.

     

    That was highlighted by Deming swarming Austin Abbott right at the whistle and earning the fall in seven seconds, drawing a fist pump from Deming.

     

    Horn later needed only 17 seconds to stop Andrew Jewell, and D.J. Basham bundled and pinned Boston Baas in 1:28 at 132.

     

    Ranked eighth, Gard said Horn is nearing a single-season school record for pins currently held by Damon Hummel. Horn is undefeated, and only one opponent has lasted six minutes against him. Improved health might explain his success, according to coach Gard.

     

    “He tore his meniscus at the conference tournament, so he wrestled the next five weeks with a torn meniscus that he had to have surgery for at the end of the season,” coach Gard said. “A lot of people don’t know that. So the last five weeks of last season was pretty tough on him. … He put a ton of time in over the spring, summer and fall. He’s had a great season. … He’s been nothing short of dominant.”

     

    The win over Prairie Heights was just the start of what was to be a glorious day.

     

    “There’s been a level of support, but we challenged our kids to just give a little bit more,” coach Gard said. “And what I mean by that is wrestling is such an individual sport that you can really get caught up in if you do your job, everything takes care of itself.

     

    “But I believe there’s more than that. A Brady Beck or an Alex Deming or a Layne Horn or a Declan Gard or a Brant Beck. … you can name them all … those guys can go out and get pins and get wins, but what are you doing to help your teammates before, during and after their match? What kind of energy are you bringing during each match that’s out there? We preach the individuality of wrestling, and so what happens is a kid goes out, he warms up, he takes care of business, he does his job, he gets off the mat, and he’s in his own world, so to speak, and not always into what’s going on in the next match or the match before him or the match after him or three matches after him. And so we just really challenged our kids the last couple weeks to just give more energy, give more to everybody that’s on the team and help each other out, keep each other positive, and when bad things are happening, be vocal and be supportive and help out and keep cheering on each wrestler and each teammate so there’s more to give.”

     

    Zebra notes

     
    • In the IndianaMat rankings dated Jan. 4, Horn is No. 8 at 126, Davis is No. 18 at 150, Brant Beck is No. 5 at 165, Weiand is No. 19 at 190, Deming is No. 8 at 215, and Brady Beck is No. 2 at heavyweight. 

    • The conference tournament is Jan. 20 at Maconaquah. The IHSAA state tournament begins with sectionals on Jan. 27. Rochester will travel to Plymouth for its sectional. Plymouth is one of two teams to beat Rochester in a dual this year.

    • The IHSWCA divides schools into four classes based on enrollment; the IHSAA does not. Team state duals have been held annually since 2013. This is Rochester’s first team state duals title. Tell City, the three-time defending state champ, lost 38-34 to Adams Central in the semifinals. Adams Central had won team state duals titles in 2013, 2015 and 2019. Prairie Heights won it from 2016-18.

    • Delta won the Class 2A title, Floyd Central won the 3A title, and Crown Point won the 4A title. Like Rochester, none of the four state championship teams were the No. 1 seed in their class.

  15. 2 hours ago, M109R said:

    Big reason for that 10% . If you are indeed a stud at a 1A or 2A school , you have probably transferred before high school to one of the many all star teams around the state . Didn't I just read Clinton Shepard used to be in the Rochester area ?

    West Central I heard.   Rensselaer area.

     

    I'm old enough to remember a Rochester wrestler who lost a year of eligibility and a chance to be a 4x qualifier/multiple placer, because he transferred to CMA (one of the best academic schools in the state.)  I'm just glad it isn't that strict anymore. 

  16. 2 hours ago, Galagore said:

     

    So you would contend that someone from Penn and someone from Culver Community has an equal probability of making the state finals?

    Proportionally, yes.

     

    Penn has had 7 finalists in the last 30 years (Juan Grange, Drew Hildebrand (2x), Kobe Woods, Chase Osborn (2x), Zachary Davis (2x), Josh Arnold, & Jamal Aessa.)

     

    Culver Community has had 2 (Matt Harford, & Jeremiah Harvey.)

     

    For a student body size of 3345 vs 239, I'd say Culver has an even better ratio of students to state wrestling finalists than Penn.

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