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On 2/24/2020 at 11:04 AM, 60yearold120lbs said:
I've been wrestling around the same amount of time you have been coaching. I have seen wrestlers take an injury default and walk around fine five minutes later a few minutes later. I think if you could. By saying "hey you're injury defaulting you can't wrestle the rest of the day. Understand that." You're giving then mmm the option to choose. You're really allowing the wrestler to pick and choose what match they want to wrestle in with the ways the rules are now. "No I'm not good enough to wrestle and finish the match, but I can wrestle the next match." It softens the sports.
A story I have is this,
A year ago at Goshen Regionals first round one of the Gimson boys from Jimtown was winning his match by a wide margin. He got called for an illegal body slam, and this kid seemed hurt. I really respected what the East Noble coaches did... they knew their kid wouldn't be able to finish the match, but they started the time let it run one second and then stopped the time and then lost the match. The coaches knew that Gimson was going to place at state (he did). This coach got crap from the fans for sure, and the coaches I talked to throughout the day said they don't know that they would be able to do that. I know that this sort of argues for allowing injury defaults, but a majority of the coaches said they don't know if they could do that. Keeping that in the back of my mind, It's easy for coaches to say they'd do the right thing, but when it all comes down to it, a lot of then would have a hard time not taking their kid to semi-state, state, the finals etc. I think by giving the option to pick and choose which match they wrestle in gives them the idea that they get to go farther. Either way the rules are the rules, and I'm just for good hard wrestling. There can always be talk about ways to improve the sport. I'm here to learn.
Hate to nitpick but I think this was 2 years ago. I also respect what EastNoble did that day though.
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8 hours ago, 60yearold120lbs said:
In my personal opinion if you're good enough to wrestle under the lights, you're good enough to finish that semi-finals match as a champ. Look at the adversary Joe Walker went through with his ankle. He got a bad draw no matter what because he'd have to wrestle a 1. Then he wrestled the whole tournament on a bad ankle and won it. I'm saying that in the spur of the moment regardless of what coaches or trainers say, if you are seriously injured you either tough it out and deal with the pain in a later match, or you forfeit and don't wrestle the rest of the day. I've seen kids lay down and act all hurt and then wrestle the rest of the day after getting that forfeit. I know coaches that will do anything to win or get a finalist too.
I’m just stating unforeseen circumstances can allow for a wrestler who was believed to be seriously injured earlier an opportunity to finish the day after an injury default. I do agree though, that some coaches would advise their wrestler to stay down and take the injury default even if they aren’t hurt.
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1 hour ago, RaiderColfax said:
I hate to see any wrestler injured, but here is my thoughts on the matter. Was the injury caused on an illegal move? If yes, and that wrestler injury defaults out of that match but can wrestle later after taking a Tylenol or something of that nature I’m fine with it, I’d rather see a match rather than a forfeit at state. If something is broke then I totally agree with the wrestler not going, but if something is strained and he can wrestle through it later then so be it. It happened with my brother and Tyler Willis in the finals in 2010. Willis was injured on an illegal move in the semis, you could see he was in a lot of pain and couldn’t continue. So Willis injury defaulted and won the match due to the illegal move. He went on to wrestle in the finals against my brother. He wasn’t himself for sure, but I commend him for going out there and trying, and fighting through the pain. I’d HATE to see a match forfeited under the lights.
I agree having a match forfeited under the lights would not be good for the sport. I think different circumstances can allow for things to happen (like wrestlers competing after an injury) The spectators don’t hear the conversations on the mat (with the coaches and trainers and wrestler) and they don’t get to what goes on behind the scenes.
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2 that I can think of without looking Is East Chicago 138 in 2017 & New Castle 145 a year ago.
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Garret Stuckman from Wawasee looks set up for a good run.
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On 2/5/2020 at 1:42 PM, Y21AB said:
Shouldn't you be in class?
They don’t do class at East Noble
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Are you gonna keep the same format for the girls side too?
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Joseph Walker signed with Michigan
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On 6/16/2019 at 9:39 AM, Y2CJ41 said:
Mason Parris qualified for state in wrestling, I think he did well there. He also qualified for state in track in the hurdles and shot put He also was a part of a state runner-up football team.
Also of note to toot a little Carroll horn, Scottie Saylor who qualified for state this year was 3 strokes from qualifying for state in golf individually. I'd be interested to hear if any wrestlers have qualified for golf and wrestling state finals before.
I’m pretty sure Micah Calhoun from Plymouth qualified for state in both golf and wrestling.
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Joseph Walker is a stud! Even wrestling while noticeably injured.
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On 12/2/2018 at 7:45 PM, AdamsCoBuschhh said:
Was Slivka the kid who tossed his head gear across the gym and stormed off the mat?
I’ve known sliv for a few years now and I know he wouldn’t do something like this. He is a very cool headed, laid back, calm dude.
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Weimer over boots 3-0
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The real question is, why isn’t your twitter on nightmode?
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On 4/10/2018 at 10:38 AM, nkraus said:
Just 8. Plus two others kids who have started in the last two years. So 10 of our starters next year will have been starters in the past.
Considering you only have 6 regional qualifiers it should make sense as to why you were not voted in. Only a little over half of your returning starters are even regionals qualifiers.
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2 hours ago, Kookie953 said:
One thing I've not seen discussed on here, but I thought was a bit of a head-scratcher...I'm assuming because of my relative ignorance of the sport. Going into the 3rd period, Slivka was up 1-0 and Hunt had choice and chose neutral. This question is not a shot on the Yorktown coaches or Hunt, as both the program and wrestler are terrific...but why do that? I would think the thought process would be to choose down to get your own escape and then at worse-case you go to OT?
What are some of the possibilities on why you don't choose that? Knowledge that Slivka was that much better on top? Us Brownsburg faithful had taken our shoes off and put all our fingers and toes together to realize that if Hunt won...with BLee and Walton coming up we actually had a chance to pull the win out of thin air. So we had a LOT of interest in that match, especially after Rumph got it done, and were a little perplexed.
Again, can't emphasize this enough, this isn't a shot at anyone...much respect to Yorktown and Hunt. Knew if they made that decision there had to be some reasoning...and it may just be that Hunt is more comfortable on his feet and felt he could get a TD. Just trying to learn some strategery.
Sliv is a hammer on Top. That’s why
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2 hours ago, navy80 said:
Cressell vs Allred saturday morning.. winner gets Walton! OUCH!
Don’t sleep on jonyvan Johnson. Took a tough loss to cressel but he was very sick this past weekend.
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Wyro vs Levitz F.W. 170
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Chad Red spent 32 seconds on the mat his senior year at sectionals. With his longest match lasting being 12 seconds.
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Injury Defaults
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I have noticed in multiple instances ( for example the 120lb semi finals of state this Year) the referee didn’t call the illegal move until he realized Bettich was slow to get up. I’ve realized the referees won’t call illegal moves unless they notice the wrestler looks injured and they change the call.