WrestlerBlack77 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I am surprised no one has started this topic yet so I decided to ask. Who does everybody think would win between this years champs and last years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialForces Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 @ 126 I think mckinley would beat ayersman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjax Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 @ 126 I think mckinley would beat ayersman. I disagree. I think Ayersman would find a way to win 1-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NICfan Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 106/103: micic 112/3: Brooks 120/119: petrov 125/6: McKinley 130/2: McKinley 135/8: jackson 145/0: tsirtsis 152/145: roach 160/152: welch 170/160: mappes 182/171: lynde 195/189: sliga 220/215: last years champ 285:??? Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruschi Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 103 ? Nathan Boston, (46-0) vs. Micic (47-0)--- 2012 Micic wins 112 ? Mason Todd,(32-0) vs. Brooks (35-0) -- 2012 Brooks wins 119 ? Kyle Ayersman,(52-0) vs. Petrov (47-0)-- 2012 Petrov wins 125 ? Jared McKinley (53-1) vs. Ayersman (52-0) -- 2012 Ayersman wins 130 ? Neal Molloy (50-0) vs. McKinley (48-1) -- 2011 Molloy wins 135 ? Ethan Raley(34-1) vs. Jackson (52-0) -- 2011 Raley wins 140 ? Jason Tsirtsis (42-0) vs. Tsirtsis (42-0) -- Tsirtsis wins 145 ? Eric Roach (42-0) vs. Tsirtsis (42-0) -- 2012 Tsirtsis wins (Be fun to watch) 152 ? Doug Welch(50-1) vs. Bradley (44-0) -- 2011 Welch wins 160 ? Chad Welch (51-0) vs. Harvey (47-0)-- 2011 Welch wins 171 ? Drake Stein(46-0) vs. Mappes (46-0) -- 2011 Stein wins 189 ? Garret Goldman(40-1) vs. Lynde (52-0) -- 2012 Lynde wins 215 ? Trey Reese (32-0) vs. Sliga or Kral -- 2012 Sliga/2011 Reese wins against Kral 285 ? Jeremiah Harvey (45-4) vs. Hall (50-0) -- 2012 Hall wins??? I am sure you could mess around with the wts whatever way you want. Be some great matches most would go either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butt Drag Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 @ 126 I think mckinley would beat ayersman. I'll take the kid with 3 state titles, a 193-2 career record, a 15-1 record in Indy, and a pretty decent gas tank. His only two loses came in close matches. > State 2009 - As a freshman in State 103 Semi's, he lost in double overtime to Dusty Kief. (Kief beat McKinley 9-2 in round 1) > Al-Smith 2010 - He lost to Beck (Mish) at Al-Smith. He came back to beat Beck at Semi-State and State Finals. (*Beck beat Todd and Campbell at State) People seem to forget the level of competion he faced or the guys at his weight for four years. He is probably one of the few to own wins over Brooks, Petrov, Campbell, McKinley, Harvey, etc. (Phillips may be the other), while also beating some 9 other eventual or current finalists. With money on the line, Ayersman seems to handle the pressure decently, and has ok conditioning: http://www.ihigh.com/hoosierauthority/video_893317.html 1. I think Mr. McKinley is an exciting wrestler to watch, but when he does not aerial launch or pin, he has had some close matches. At State, he labored with Moody in quarters being ridden hard and taken down in a tight 8-6 match, and was tight with Johnson in first round before creating space. He has gotten more well rounded, but there is no doubt if you withstand the initial head attacks, Campbell, Phillips, and Ayersman have shown he can be beat. 2. I doubt Ayersman is dumb enough to walk into McKinley's headlock. In their only prior meeting, the 2010 112lb semifinals, Ayersman quickly took him down and pinned McKinley. 3. LeCount - After watching LeCount, I believe LeCount could actually be top dog in that room. The LeCount kid is the real deal, and word from some in the PM camp is that Mr. LeCount does very well against Mr. McKinley. I would not be surprised if you told me Mr. McKinley rarely scores on Mr. LeCount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden Boy Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Mckinley wasn't the wrestler he is now when he wrestled ayersman in the semis that year. why don't they have a match at a catch weight both weighing in at 128. I'm picking mckinley he' too strong for Ayersman I guarantee that! Ayersman's a boy compared to jmac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nittanylion Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 After watching both wrestle this weekend I'd have to say McKinley by 3 or 4 points. Did they ever meet up in iswa folkstyle state? I thought Jared pinned Ayersman or was that someone else? Either way, regardless of the outcome, 2 great wrestlers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No One Famous Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I am surprised no one has started this topic yet so I decided to ask. Who does everybody think would win between this years champs and last years? My question to you is, could you beat Harvey under the lights? (I would bet on you.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlerBlack77 Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 My question to you is, could you beat Harvey under the lights? (I would bet on you.) Would be a long close match. Dude was close to impossible to take down because of his strength and balance. Every one of our matches was by one point I think. I beat him four times and then he beat me when it mattered at semi-state lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I heard he was sandbaggin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlerBlack77 Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 I heard he was sandbaggin'. R u refering to me or Harvey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butt Drag Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 After watching both wrestle this weekend I'd have to say McKinley by 3 or 4 points. Did they ever meet up in iswa folkstyle state? I thought Jared pinned Ayersman or was that someone else? Either way, regardless of the outcome, 2 great wrestlers! Other way around. Ayersman pinned McKinley in 1:05 of the first period. But past records and head-to-head matches don't count, unless it involves McKinley winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2CJ41 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 R u refering to me or Harvey? Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nittanylion Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 After watching both wrestle this weekend I'd have to say McKinley by 3 or 4 points. Did they ever meet up in iswa folkstyle state? I thought Jared pinned Ayersman or was that someone else? Either way, regardless of the outcome, 2 great wrestlers! Other way around. Ayersman pinned McKinley in 1:05 of the first period. But past records and head-to-head matches don't count, unless it involves McKinley winning. Sorry for asking the question Mr. Ayersman. Just asking who did pin your son at Iswa folkstyle state ? Was it Harvey from Cathedral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlerBlack77 Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 Harvey Haha well he won state doing it then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestleMan Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Brian Harvey did pin Ayersman at ISWA Folkstyle state in a vicious headlock several years ago. It may have been five or six years ago. I remember watching it, but you know how time flies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAC8 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 106- micic over Boston. This year 113-brooks over Todd. This year 120-ayersman over petrov. Last year 126-ayeran over McKinley. this year 132-Molloy over McKinley. Last year 138-raley over Jackson. Last year 145-tsrtisis over tsirtsis. This year 152-roach over bradley. Last year 160-welch over Harvey. Last year. 170-mappes over welch. This year 182-lydde over stein. This year 195-sliga over Goldman. This year 220-Reece over krahl. Last year. 285-hall over ?? This year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth34 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 120-ayersman over petrov. Last year 132-Molloy over McKinley. Last year 182-lydde over stein. This year Probably the only three I disagree with: Petrov was simply nasty this year at the State Finals. This year's version of Petrov might've beaten Ayersman. I think this year's McKinley beats last years Molloy. They wrestled about dead-even this year and Molloy was better this year (despite the end result) I would take Stein over Lynde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendonKelley Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 106: Micic 113:brooks 120: Ayersman 126: Ayersman 132: Molloy 138: Jackson 145:Tsirtsis 152:Roach 160: Welch 170: Welch 182: Stein over Lynde in ONE HECK OF A MATCH 195: Sliga 220: Reece HWT: Hall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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