catmancool Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 160 Schneider wins 1-0 over Garnett. Welch easily wins with tech fall 21-5 over Hayhurst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmancool Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 171 King wins 4-1 over Guerrettaz. Then comes the good stuff... SUDDEN DEATH period 7 and Brandenstein fails to score loses to Warren.. Great match !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 thanks for the updates.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmancool Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Omg crowd going wild.. Coaches on the mat screaming at 189 match.. Getting wild it is 3-3 third period and getting ugly.. Boots and Sandwith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmancool Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Overtime everyone screaming ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetItRide Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Refs today questionable at best.... :-\ Some tough calls today, but I would be Okay as long as it was consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmancool Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Boots pulls off overtime win 7-4.. Tv station filming coaches out of thier chairs. Doesn't get any better than this.. Good match by both wrestlers... lane got third... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boilergrappler Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Refs today questionable at best.... :-\ Some tough calls today, but I would be Okay as long as it was consistent. Amen to being consistent. Tough day to be a SIAC tourney official. They just looked like they we're a little behind on everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greco4life Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 anything on the 213 and hwt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jap1971 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 215 Nathan Wright wins tight one over Schnarr from Reitz. VanWinkle pins at heavy against Central first period. Sorry don't remember the score at 215. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justind283 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 reffs were horrible vanhook moody and dowdy matches all horrible calls through out match all three deserve a sorry from the reffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justind283 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 possibly worse calls ever seen come on a point for faking an eye injury in the 125 match and idk what happened in the dowdy schroeder match just horrible inconsistant calls from the stripped guys its sad the reffs are scared to call the right calls hopefully have better reffs at sectional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jap1971 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I agree refs were inconsistent, but I didn't see anyone fake an eye injury. I didn't see anything in the Schroeder/Dowdy match that I thought was that bad either. I thought Welch could have been hit for stalling against VanHook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryirishman Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 possibly worse calls ever seen come on a point for faking an eye injury in the 125 match and idk what happened in the dowdy schroeder match just horrible inconsistant calls from the stripped guys its sad the reffs are scared to call the right calls hopefully have better reffs at sectional please tell me which call was bad in the Moody vs. Henderson match?....looked to me henderson simply out wrestled him in every single way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 The eye poke penalty was an unfortunate way to start a championship match in which the outcome would likely be decided by 1 or 2 points. Henderson wrestled his match but all points (5) were from Moody pushing the action. 1pt. penalty, takedown when Moody got too high and the last takedown with time running out and Moody trying a throw down 3-2. The potentially dangerous call with Moody working a reversal was very suspect also. Not sure what was dangerous about it? Looked like a typical switch? Both are fine wrestlers and will likley see each other for the next few weeks depending upon where Greismer ends up. I agree the refs were off their game today. The 189 championship match really sums up the day. It was painful to watch and propably took 20 minutes to complete. Nickster, I remember the Reitz kid who always had the eye poke problem - it seemed to only happen against the Castle kid who would never take a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Stick, Well played Sir! The best part about your post is you took the glory away from Nickster - he didn't have time to reply!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdcats1 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Was the Reitz guy Shane Ritter? I'm guessing the Castle guy was Pettijohn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon H Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I will post the "eye poke" question in the Ask the Official section. They answered my back point question this morning. Interesting answer on back points - I'm fairly certain that a few of the SIAC refs did not go by this guideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justind283 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 jap1971 must not have watched the dowdy schroeder match dowdy was only one giving pressure whole match reff finally gets told by other reff that schroeder was stalling on other matches feet inbounds is all you need for take down dowdy had both feet in schroeder was on his butt facing him still no take down welch stalled entire match the eye injury deal idk wat to say bout that but moody took shot after shot and all henderson did was back up the 140 match reitz boy got ripped on back points several times and so did alot of other kids they need new reffs of that stuff there will cost someone there season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jslsrhs607 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 One thing that I have to give to the guys in stripes is that they are out there and I am not. Being a ref is not an easy task and I give those guys credit for being out there when most wouldn't dare wear the stripes. However I was also very disappointed in the officiating. I think that I would be ok if some of the call were more consistant. For example, Rueger should of had 3 back points (1st or 2nd period sorry can't remember) and the ref didn't give it to him and Lannert's shoulders broke 45 degrees. Then not 30 seconds later Lannert's shoulders DID NOT break 45 degrees and Rueger got 2 back points. I agree with JonH on the 189 match summing it up. They took back points away from Sandwith then didn't give Boots an obvious takedown late in the third. I hope the officiating gets a little more consistant over the next few weeks or like Justind283 said..... it may cost someone their season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatChick76 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Some thoughts on the SIAC... First, yes, the reffing was inconsistent at best, they seemed slow to react when kids were on their backs and very inconsistent when they were calling inbounds vs. out @119, Van Hook deserved to get a stalling point from Welch, this match should have been battled in OT - can't wait to see these two match-up again @ 125, the eye poke definitely changed the pace of the match, Moody didn't have that 1 point lead to play with, so he seemed at a loss as what to do after that...I have seen him wrestle several times this year already, and although I will say Moody is a good wrestler (great build for a 125 wrestler), his M.O. has been to get that escape and then circle and block against wrestlers evenly-matched with him (look at his matches, several are 1-0 wins) @189, the reffing was horrible..backpoints before takedown, then no escape, but a takedown awarded...it took them forever to figure out where they went wrong...then a coach comes across from another mat, when there are already 2 Memorial coaches on the mat....it was crazy, but the removal of the 2 points was the correct call Other thoughts.... The Welch Twins...so solid...not sure if anyone in this area can touch them - so skilled, only wish we could see them on the mat for longer periods of time...lol! Central has got some solid wrestlers coming up...can't wait to see how they progress in the years to come... Did you see how many Memorial wrestlers were going for 3rd & 4th? I know a lot of them were Seniors, but several of them weren't...they came in 2nd at the JV Invite @ MD...and if Coughlin continues to be one of their coaches, they will only get better and better MD Freshmen finished 2nd & 3rd @ SIAC...not too shabby...and I'm not sure what was going on @ 171, but I don't expect that match will go that way again or that the score will be that close Just loved how Castle fans cheered for anyone wrestling against MD ...some things never change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jap1971 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 MatChick Memorial freshman filling in for Wedding did not place 4th. That went to Cassidy from North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatChick76 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 MatChick Memorial freshman filling in for Wedding did not place 4th. That went to Cassidy from North. You're right...I just looked at my brackets again, and Taz Cassidy (North) did indeed place 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUBjj171 Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 The SIAC meet is the one thing that i hate missing because of college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthemat Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Consistancy was the obvious shortfall yesterday. I seen wrestling stopped 3 maybe 4 times for an eye poke. Not one of those times did I see a point given. Suddenly there is a championship match and the ref popped a point immediately. Flagrent, intentional? No way. The ref who made the call is not very consistant at all. I have seen him have two bad tournaments this year. He rarely if ever gets down on the mat. He is in very poor position often and certainly does not like to have his calls challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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