NoGutsNoGlory Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 But how do you seed someone below two wrestlers he has beat head to head? I wouldn't stress it too bad. I'm thinking the 7 seed will be in the bottom bracket so that could end up being better than getting seeded 4th being in the top bracket with the only guy that has beat your kid all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlickRodz Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoGutsNoGlory Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 The 7 seed is in the top bracket! Should be the two seed!!!! Ouch, thats a bad deal. Gast at 135 that is 13-1 with his only loss to Steven Reiker (ranked) seeded 6th. Seems to be alot of bad seeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepsingle20 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Weinzapfel (Mater Dei) seeded 6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlickRodz Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Weinzapfel (Mater Dei) seeded 6? Ok that is worse crap than my son. Could this list be bogus?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 The 7 seed is in the top bracket! Should be the two seed!!!! I believe in a regular 16 yeam bracket the 7th seed in in the bottom side of the bracket and would face the 2nd seed in the quarter-finals. Also, not sure of all this seeding info, its accuracy, and how it played out. It may be whoever posted the results was confused on the list of seeding. I also know each tournament has its own criteria for seeding that is not exactly the same as the state tournament criteria. Thinks like previous years finish sometimes play a factor. The round robin issue of he beat him who beat him who beat him also end up hurting someone in the brackets and sometimes dropping them farther down than you would expect. I will say some coaches don't speak up because is some cases one seed isn't much difference over all than the one above or below it because of how the tournament plays out. Other times I've notice some coaches like the advantage of being a slightly lower seed and putting out a tough early opponent instead of having them later on. Or coaches insisting on sticking to the exact seeding criteria at one weight but then wanting common sense to prevail over the exact criteria in another weight to get certain kids in place or away from what they feel are dangerous opponents for them to wrestle. Not saying this was the case but its been noticed before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Sobchak Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 7th seed is in bottom bracket will wrestle #2 seed in quarter finals.... maybe they put some emphasis on how kids did in state tournament last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tskin Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 I will say at 145lbs I stated I thought Weinzapfel should be the #2 seed. MD coach didn't really say anything so they kept moving on. He lost in OT to Weekly if I heard correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingFann Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 How is a Christain Academy kids seeded above mater dei kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepsingle20 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 How is a Christain Academy kids seeded above mater dei kids There may have been a mistake? ahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Kendrick Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 There is a set criteria for seeding this tournament and that is how it goes., overall record is one of the last criteria used for seeding this tournament. Maybe some coaches felt it was better for their kid have a lower seed, for example sometimes it could be better to be the 6 seed instead of 4 0r 5 because it puts you in the bottom half away from the 1 seed. Also all 16 coaches were in attendence at this seeding meeting today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 The 7 seed is in the top bracket! Should be the two seed!!!! how did the kid do in the state tourney last year. I know the 3 seed went to semi state so unless he went to semi state two he shouldn't have been seeded higher then 4th which means he would have to face boots in the semi finals now he can face boots in the finals which earns more team points. But like what's been said I see a lot of bad seeds. Gast was a semi-state qualifier and got a 6 seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 I will say at 145lbs I stated I thought Weinzapfel should be the #2 seed. MD coach didn't really say anything so they kept moving on. He lost in OT to Weekly if I heard correctly. I'm sure MD's coach isn't worried about seeds. Though it does kind of mess things up for the other teams. I don't know anything about the Christain Academy team or why they had so many seeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreparetoWin Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 how did the kid do in the state tourney last year. I know the 3 seed went to semi state so unless he went to semi state two he shouldn't have been seeded higher then 4th which means he would have to face boots in the semi finals now he can face boots in the finals which earns more team points. But like what's been said I see a lot of bad seeds. Gast was a semi-state qualifier and got a 6 seed. Gast was not a semi state qualifier last year...he got beat in regionals. I am not sure if that makes a difference I just thought I would throw that out. I know he should have been, but woulda, coulda, shoulda. I beat him up enough about that so he is much more focused this year...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 ok my bad that seed sounds better now. I looked up Christain Academy sectional results from last year and I don't think there 145 that's seed high than MD's 145 even made it to regionals last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Kendrick Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Weinzapfel (Mater Dei) seeded 6? Weinzapfel is the 5 seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepsingle20 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Weinzapfel is the 5 seed. Thats not what the seedings say at the beginning of this topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Kendrick Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 I know. according to the bracket i was given at the end of the seeding meeting, Weinzapfel is on line 5, and the #5 seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepsingle20 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Do you see any other mistakes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbulldog152 Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 that makes more sense though I guess he didn't make it to regions either though he was in a stack weight class for sectionals which would explain being seed behind feller who was a semi-state qualifier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Kendrick Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 There are a few. Each school was asked to submit a preliminary roster before the seeding meeting, so as always there were some changes to what was originally sent in. I know there are some different names that were seeeded then what was originally send it. The one big one that I see off the top of my head is at 103 Vibbert is the 2 seed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 so people got upset yet these seedings may not even be correct???? :-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepsingle20 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 So is Vibbert or Seng wrestling 103 for Mater Dei?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jap1971 Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Can someone post the bracket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Kendrick Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 I think for the most part they are correct. It looks as though some coaches entered different wrestlers at the seeding meeting then what was originally sent into tournmaent.. However, some of the names didnt get changed in the computer, so when the brackets were printed there are different names. The one example I see is at 103 Sang is on the bracket at 103, but I know for fact that Vibbert was put on the board and got the 2 seed. Not really a big issue at all, just that the names didnt get changed in the computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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