HeartBreaker Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 ??? ??? ??? What is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greco165 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Bringing your opponent to the mat without control, causing injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlyn Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I don't think it has to cause injury. It's just that if it does cause injury, the slammed wrestler wins. Maybe a ref could answer this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theckman Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Doesn't have to cause injury. I'll bet most of us have seen slams called where the defensive wrestler wasn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartBreaker Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 Ok refs, so a legal slam involves what?? Feet planted? Upper body controlling the opponent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theckman Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Bringing a wrestler to the mat with unnecessary force. It's a judgement call. What's unneccesary to one ref could be perfectly fine to another. Seen lots of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greco165 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Sorry, I was thinking of a DQ via slam, since I'm sure this thread is in response to the Penn v. Castle match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartBreaker Posted January 10, 2010 Author Share Posted January 10, 2010 No it was at another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maligned Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 The rule is very clear on one thing only: the offensive wrestler has full responsibility to return his opponent to the mat safely and under control. After that, it's always a judgment. Some officials go by the rule of thumb that they want to see the offensive wrestler's own knee(s) go to the mat before his opponent hits the mat (thus theoretically reducing the force), but this doesn't guarantee a safe return necessarily. Nor does the opponent hitting the mat before the knees of the offensive wrestler mean a slam for sure. It's all about the force and/or control involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickfor6 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 i think one of your knees have to hit the mat before your opponent does, while under control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlittlejohn Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Ok refs, so a legal slam involves what?? Feet planted? Upper body controlling the opponent? There is no such thing as a "legal slam"! Rule 7, Section 1 (Illegal Holds/Maneuvers, Article 1 (Page 34) A slam is lifting and returning an opponent to the mat with unnecessary force. This infraction may be committed by a contestant in either the top or bottom position on the mat, as well as during a takedown. A slam shall be called without hesitation. When a slam is called which results in injury Recover Time is used, if after the 2 minutes of recovery time the offended wrestler cannot continue he/she shall be declared the winner by disqualification. The theory that a wrestler's knee(s) hitting the mat mitigates the penalty is a myth and has been the contention for many arguments over the years. The rule simply refers to unnecessary force. There is no mention of intent or causing injury. The unnecessary force may be accidental and does not have to cause injury. The call sould be made without hesitation, therefore, it possible that the recognition of an injury may not even occur until after the call. In addition, although not written within the rule itself, when you have your opponent off the mat you are responsible for a safe return. Also, if it is determined that the slam was intentional it shall result in flagrant misconduct. This is explained in the Case Book (Page 42). Hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiralride1 Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 i think one of your knees have to hit the mat before your opponent does, while under control False. It all hinges around control and being responsible for your opponent's safe landing if you chose to take him off of the mat. There is no exception for your knee hitting first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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