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  1. Probably the most action of any 1-1 match going into overtime. These two absolutely got after it but could not finish during regulation. Great match!
  2. All of these matches were awesome and so much fun to watch but I think Red vs Lee has to top the list. Red going for a 4x undefeated HS career and Lee coming off a season long injury. Red wrestled with a flare and had a persona all his own. Lee was the blue collared Wildcat from the south. So much anticipation that people all of over the state were waiting to click open the brackets to see if Nick actually entered the sectional at 132. Then the anticipation to see if Red/Lee would happen in the semis or under the lights. It was the first time I had heard so much buzz about making that match t
  3. I don't look at going from 12 to 8 schools as a decrease in the chances of a 1A school going to or winning team state. Yes there are less spots but all schools have the opportunity to compete this year for a spot next year. There should still be motivation at smaller schools to draw athletes and grow the sport. Ultimately Classed Team State alone won't grow a program but it can be a carrot to draw kids in. Still takes a lot of work and dedication from the school, coaches, parents and athletes.
  4. It should be about both (although more the kids than the adults). When talking about class wrestling you have to really consider the average kid vs the elite kid (and their families). If the experience is not enjoyable for the parents of a wrestler then there is less likelihood that the kid will continue to do the necessary things to improve and continue with the sport (notice I said "less likelihood" as there are exceptions to every rule). As for class wrestling as a whole, I think any argument (for or against) needs to have good comparative (and if possible) historical data.
  5. I completely agree that the weight cutting problem is only solved by coaches, parents and athletes cause there just isnt a good way to legislate it as some will always find "work arounds". I also agree with healthy living is the way to go but understand a kid "cutting" (within reason) down a weight class to make the lineup but not hard 15-30 lb cuts.
  6. Helps prevent kids from cutting a bunch and then replenishing after weigh-ins which is 60-90 mins before wrestling begins. If you have to weigh-in every time you step on the mat then more likely you are at your natural weight and not cutting.
  7. Coaches do have access but every time an alpha weight gets changed an email goes to IHSAA office. If you do it then they IHSAA will know. Not sure why a coach would have the access either. Maybe there could be a legitimate reason a coach would need to edit that weight?!?
  8. Generally I agree with you on the response “well why don’t you just get your license” but getting out on the mat to officiate and seeing how difficult it can be gives you a little more appreciation to the ref.
  9. Let me start by saying, Indiana officials as a whole are much better than many surrounding states. That’s pretty easy to say going to Regional or National tournaments with officials from multiple states. One of the reasons that Indiana is so good is a very real attempt to be consistent throughout the state however there are some nuances in different areas. The region typically is pretty aggressive with stall calls compared to Indy or down south. It probably appears worse to Indy guys because Indy has soooo many officials (some really good and some newbies) making consistency within Indy a litt
  10. In looking at the results of the CCC, Westfield had 8 wrestlers finish higher in placement to FC 6. One could assume that Westfield would win 8 of the 14 matches in a dual (with bonus points likely deciding the dual). Based off of this it makes sense to rank Westfield higher in dual rankings. Regardless it is great that FC is continuing to build their program.
  11. I believe the rule refers to manufacturers logos. Any other decorations just can’t be offensive. Therefore it is my understanding that a Penn State sticker would be ok.
  12. Think of it this way... suppose there was a proposed rule change to remove 138 and add 95 with the reasoning that we already have 132 and 145 and having a wt class in the middle was too much AND adding 95 would give more opportunities to smaller kids. Would you be for this change? These are all big "What Ifs" so not a lot of reality of them happening but the lowest weight class has evolved from 98 to 103 to 106 because kids are getting bigger not smaller. I think kids cut too much weight (not all but some) and maybe this could help.
  13. So maybe I'm not explaining my view very well. 106 generally has one of the highest forfeit rates. A lot of schools just try to find any kid who weighs less than 106 (usually a freshman who hasn't started growing yet) to get forfeits. If we started at 113 and added a weight in the middle or upper weights now that Varsity spot would be filled by a bigger and in a lot of cases a more "varsity" ready athlete. And to answer your questions... If they’re great, why throw them on jv? Not throwing them on JV. If they are a JV level wrestler then yes they could be great at the JV level
  14. Can't they contribute and be great at the freshman level or JV level?
  15. 1. Adopt different weight classes for freshman and JV than Varsity and eliminate Varsity 106 to add a larger weight class. Zero seniors qualified for Semi-state at 106 this year. No other sport caters to underclassmen. New weight class could be in the middle or upper weights just get rid of 106. 2. Adopt college stalling rules for the offensive wrestler. Hold on a leg for an audible 5 seconds and get called for stalling. 3. Add Fleeing to the Stalling penalty chart (so first stall/flee is warning but second stall/flee is a point - I think this could make it easier on officials to
  16. When coaches can see how cross training can help their athletes then everyone wins. A week at Disney Duals wont take away from summer football and probably helps make them better football players. All it takes is a little communication and working together for a kids to be successful as a multi-sport athlete. Not gonna say it is easy but coaches working together is a big deal. And Kudos for Coach Snyder and all the other coaches that promote being a multisport athlete!
  17. Absolutely.... Many of the challenges kids have to being great in wrestling happen to coincide with small schools but big schools aren't necessarily immune to challenges. They are just different challenges. Ben Davis, Pike and Fishers (3 of the biggest HS in the State) had 3 SQ combined. Oak Hill, Western, Wawasee, Jimtown all had 3 each. All that being said school size is probably the best way to divide schools into classes. I would just be a bigger supporter of an "all-in" team state tournament series vs changing the individual tournament.
  18. I don't buy into the big schools have this huge advantage over small schools when it comes to individual success. Bigger enrollments give a school more kids that might have the talent and work ethic to have more success but what makes wrestling great is same size kids wrestle each other so it isn't like a 1A school going against a 6A school in basketball or football where one school has multiple 6'8" kids or multiple 300 lb kids who can physically dominate the other. Is it more convenient at larger schools with better resources? Yes. Does it prevent a small school kid from having success?
  19. On the IHSAA Website in their yearbooks it gives a detail to each sports attendance and revenue. The last yearbook is the 2000-2001 season but here are some interesting numbers... 4th in Participation (Behind Football, Track and Baseball) 4th in Tournament Attendance (behind Football, Boys Basketball, Girls Basketball) $162,000 in revenue for entire state tournament (to compare girls basketball was $192k with more than double the attendance) To echo XCard, I think the IHSAA values wrestling and the tournament but are less interested in making significant adjustments to the
  20. The ref signaled unnecessary roughness and awarded the Def School wrestler 1 pt. Looked like the neck brace and stretcher were more precautionary but you never know in those cases. Hope the young man is ok.
  21. Obviously a very big topic this time of year.... just some thoughts on wrestlebacks at each level. Sectional - we have them after the pigtail matches. So as long as kids are seeded correctly and non-seeded kids are placed in pigtail rounds I think this is a good way to run the Sectional. Regional - You wrestle your way into your seed from Sectional and since only 2 Sectionals feed into a Regional there is no luck of the draw. Keep the same. Semi-State - Biggest opportunity for wrestlebacks but if you only do wrestlebacks after the 1st round then people will start asking for wre
  22. Yes... sorry... he wins but he still loses... still very important distinction. Thanks!
  23. Unless the wrestler winning commits a Flagrant Misconduct then he could lose but obviously this would be a pretty rare situation.
  24. Tournament match scoring errors: A recordable error must be corrected prior to the offended wrestler leaving the mat area if additional wrestling is necessary (Mat Area: Rule 2-1-5: the wrestling mat plus 10 feet). Otherwise, when additional wrestling is NOT necessary, the offended wrestler or coach must remain in the mat area. A computational error must be corrected prior to the next match in which either wrestler competes. Again, if additional wrestling is necessary, it must be corrected prior to the offended wrestler leaving the mat area. I would consider this to be a computa
  25. I believe that all of this was known at the seeding meeting on Monday but the coaches did the right thing and seeded wrestlers as they should have been seeded. A big kudos to those coaches for the doing the right thing!
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