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  1. Did he wrestle Jason Carr of Wawasee in the finals at 160?
  2. Someone from EMD will have the answer to this, but I remember hear at State that an EMD kid was a high State placer in the early part of the last decade, possibly a finalist, that was JV until the varsity guy got hurt that season.
  3. phscoach- I believe that Y2 is being sarcastic, but if I am incorrect, I am sure he'll set the record straight. You do bring up some goods points about how classing wrestling will help build depth of experience on teams. I coached at a midsized BB school. Kids were more interested in watching that team practice, based on the perceived success of that program, rather than be a part of our program, especially if it meant being a reserve on our team.
  4. The point is that when someone like John Smith gives his opinion on HS wrestling, the state of Indiana should listen. He is on record for saying that we hurt ourselves as a state by not classing wrestling, which in turn hurts the kids. Whether people want to argue whether class wrestling makes a wrestler better or not, you can't dispute the fact that a 2X state champ multi-class system will get more college attention that a 2X state placer in a one class system.
  5. That is a big part of the problem. The big schools that aren't very good will look at it say, "It doesn't benefit us, so why support it?".
  6. Spoken like a true fan, rather than someone who sees the "big picture".
  7. tskin- I am a former wrestling coach, so I am not currently a member of the IHSWCA. I think the input of all of the members is important, but I also think that the input of others is also important.
  8. I respect the opinions of others as well. I am glad to see that you look at it from the perspective of what is best for the health of the sport, and not just what's best as a fan. If I looked at it as what's best as a fan, I would say to class none of it, as I might very well have said 5-10 years ago. But wrestling is not only surviving, but thriving in our neighboring states like OH, MI, IL, etc., for example. I can only see class wrestling helping wrestling in our state to continue to grow. It will bring more kids to the sport, which will bring more parents to the sport, which means a bigger fan base, which means bigger gates, which means more of what the IHSAA is most concerned about---more revenue!
  9. My plan classes both individual and team. Class 2 would be Bellmont, this year, and I suspect a lot of years.
  10. Let's face it, there is no "perfect system". But if other sports can eliminate the second best team in the State in a given Sectional, as it often happens in football, as well as other sports, then I think it's fine to do it in the individual tournament. My other thought on it was just having 4 Super Regionals, and advancing both finalists, or advancing the top 3 kids, and then having the 2's and 3's wrestling on Friday night at State, giving the champs a bye to Saturday. Would that be better?
  11. Under my plan, classing wrestling would also eliminate Semi State. Team State would have one representative from each of the 3 evenly distributed classes, from each of the current SS areas. We would start a week earlier than we currently do, so as to start from a dual meet format, rather than starting from an individual format as we currently do. It would mean that Team State would be a Final Four for each of the 3 perspective classes. The Individual tournament would advance only champions in each of the 3 divisions from each Sectional and each Regional. We would have 8 Regionals and advance the champions in each division to State. Friday night would be single elimination, as it currently is. The winning wrestlers would advance to the Semifinals, and would place. There would be room for some tweaking, but this is a general outline of what I project it to look like. Let the voting begin!
  12. I am almost certain that this is correct. For some reason it sticks out in my mind.
  13. It will be very interesting to see how things end up this year. It's really too early to tell what order the SSs will finish in. You might see a SS get the most or the 2nd most champs, but the least number of placers this year.
  14. I would agree this. Wrestlebacks would get the best 4 wrestlers through more often than we currently do, but the current way increases the excitement level. Wrestlebacks would help the guy who comes out cold, but they would penalize the guy who comes in with a great strategy and pulls off the upsets. If you had wrestlebacks at SS, you would see a lot of better wrestlers lose early, but come back to beat the guy that beat him in the second chance match. If we ever add wrestlebacks at SS, it should be from the second round on.
  15. I would also rather see it set up that way. The IHSAA doesn't seed it, so we end up with match ups like this too soon. Fortunately, the other team that should be in the mix, Perry Meridian, is not on the same side of the bracket as EMD and CP.
  16. I agree. That kid showed composure. Many wrestlers could learn from watching that.
  17. Good article, although it incorrectly states that Blake Mauer won 4 Team State Championships at Mater Dei.
  18. The fact that they had 4 champs and two runners up says nothing about the strength of the Sectional. You can disagree all that you want, but I will guarantee there are tons of schools finishing second or 3rd in their own Sectionals that would win this one. Probably some teams that finish even lower in their own Sectionals. You may not understand this, but not all Sectionals are created equal.
  19. Bobby Cox's argument about Team State having run it's course is incorrect. What Eastern's dropping out of Team Regional shows more than anything else is that we need Sectional realignment. Their Sectional is obviously too weak if a team with only 7 healthy wrestlers can win it.
  20. Hummel lost to Andy Schneider, as a JR and SR. He must have been giving away at least 60lbs, but considering that Schneider was cutting to make weight, it was probably more like giving up 80lbs. Hummel was the poster-child for the 215lb class. Ironically, the #1 HWT this year, Daniel Meyer, is roughly Hummel's size.
  21. I would venture to say that it's a safe bet that he could have beaten any of the state champs in classes below his own.
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